[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Nobody would watch basketball if they called it by the books.[/QUOTE]
I got into basketball back when they still called it by the books.
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[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Nobody would watch basketball if they called it by the books.[/QUOTE]
I got into basketball back when they still called it by the books.
imo it's not detrimental to the game to give players the ability to perform more complicated dribbling moves.
but only as long as they're actually dribbling. what they need to crack down on is the one handed carries prior to a layup. Harden always does this, 2 steps one-handed then puts both on it and takes another 2.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnIS8yOKBbw[/url]
this video you only need to get 15 seconds into see an example of this, on the fast break, the last time the ball bounces is behind the 3 point line yet harden doesn't actually take off until he's well in the paint.
Iverson by the letter of the law (nba rulebook) did NOT palm though.
[img]http://www.gifwave.com/media/69697_sports-michael-jordan-crossover-chicago-bulls_200s.gif[/img]
His hand is clearly NOT underneath the ball, this is how he dribbled 95% of the time and its the method most guys use now. He revolutionized the dribble by dribbling in a swing style manner as opposed to dribbling straight up and down he used the momentum generated by that swinging to basically suspend the ball in midair.
Very clever AND within the rules as far as palming goes.
NOW, what may be a more viable argument is discontinued dribble, but that call is much more discretionary type of call because you can suspend your dribble even while keeping your hand on top.
[QUOTE=Akhenaten]Iverson by the letter of the law (nba rulebook) did NOT palm though.
[img]http://www.gifwave.com/media/69697_sports-michael-jordan-crossover-chicago-bulls_200s.gif[/img]
His hand is clearly NOT underneath the ball, this is how he dribbled 95% of the time and its the method most guys use now. He revolutionized the dribble by dribbling in a swing style manner as opposed to dribbling straight up and down he used the momentum generated by that swinging to basically suspend the ball in midair.
Very clever AND within the rules as far as palming goes.
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except about a tenth of a second after that still his hand is very clearly under the ball.
[img]http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/NBA/060716-NBA-Allen-Iverson-Michael-Jordan.JPG[/img]
everyone knows Iverson palmed, the attempted crack down on it was called the 'Iverson Rule'. why on earth would you think nearly every journalist that's commented on his dribbling had just made this up?
[url]http://verysmartbrothas.com/allen-iversons-greatest-contribution-to-basketball-is-an-unstoppable-and-completely-illegal-dribble-move/[/url]
[QUOTE=antonAC]except about a tenth of a second after that still his hand is very clearly under the ball.
[img]http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/NBA/060716-NBA-Allen-Iverson-Michael-Jordan.JPG[/img]/QUOTE]
Good Lord, it's like he's playing football at that point.
[QUOTE=Marchesk][QUOTE=antonAC]except about a tenth of a second after that still his hand is very clearly under the ball.
[img]http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/NBA/060716-NBA-Allen-Iverson-Michael-Jordan.JPG[/img] [/QUOTE]
[b]Good Lord, it's like he's playing football at that point.[/b][/QUOTE]
:roll:
His hand is still not under the ball in that pic though.
[QUOTE=sportjames23]I got into basketball back when they still called it by the books.[/QUOTE]
No you didn't maggot, MJ getting specialized treatment is the opposite of calling it by the books.
[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Nobody would watch basketball if they called it by the books.[/QUOTE]
Its called Euroleague.
Allen Iverson was the Shaq of Guards ...When he came on the scene much like Shaq and his pure strength and dominance... He was unstoppable and no one could stay in front of him or guard him.....So the NBA devised a way to stop him by coming up with "Carry", "Palming" and "Traveling" calls based on the mechanics of his dribble and crossover moves.
Now that the threat of this is in the past....They've given up on enforcing it....Much like all the rough contact in the paint to stop Shaq was once tolerated due to his abhorrent FT ability....Now you can't even blow on someone in the paint without it being a shooting foul.
[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]And they were CALLED for it.
Not TODAY, though.
How about this...
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3FXLyNFew[/url]
I counted about five offensive fouls in that small sequence alone.
If I am a GM, I am going to sign guys like Brock Lesnar. He obviously won't need to dribble, and he can pretty much just destroy whatever comes in his path. I would just have to teach him how to make layups...and he would be unstoppable.[/QUOTE]
Brock Lesnar would of been better than Wilt in the 60s
[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]No you didn't maggot, MJ getting specialized treatment is the opposite of calling it by the books.[/QUOTE]
Getting roughed up by the Pistons and Knicks is getting preferential treatment? I'd love to see what you think of the touch fouls Lebron and other stars today get, bitch.