Where would you put LeBron James on the all time list? Honest answers, please.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon]i guess it's people being all over the place with these narratives and inconsistency. Russell actually moved up the argument past Wilt 20 years later without playing a single minute, it's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]


It's not a problem though. Different times, different people, different values.

The public's perspective of best music, best movie, best whatever changes all the time. And it's not overtaking by newcomers.

Ranking is not fact. It's opinion. Subject to change. You can change your opinion on Larry Bird any time. Why not?

[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]you have to factor in the fact that simons alts voted at least 10+ times


:lol[/QUOTE]


Been there, done that. If I exclude the extremes (GOAT and Not top 15), the result is:

21 votes
147 ponts
average: 7

So this poll is not that skewed.

[QUOTE=elementally morale]It's not a problem though. Different times, different people, different values.

The public's perspective of best music, best movie, best whatever changes all the time. And it's not overtaking by newcomers.

Ranking is not fact. It's opinion. Subject to change. You can change your opinion on Larry Bird any time. Why not?[/QUOTE]
I've seen Magic sneak past Bird on most people's ranking strictly in the last 20 years. It's nice being in the limelight.

[QUOTE=elementally morale]Been there, done that. If I exclude the extremes (GOAT and Not top 15), the result is:

21 votes
147 ponts
average: 7

So this poll is not that skewed.[/QUOTE]
Except he's much closer to GOAT than not top 15. So realistically, at worst top 5.

[QUOTE=elementally morale]Weigthed avreage after 30 votes in number 9.


GOAT: 4 votes for 4 points (each vote 1 point)
TOP 3: 2 votes for 4 points (each vote 2 points... top 3 --> avg: 2)
Top 5: 7 votes for 28 points (each vote 4 points... top 5 but not top 3 --> avg:4 etcetc.)
Top 10: 5 votes for 40 points
Top 15: 4 votes for 52 points
Not top 15: 8 votes for 144 points


Total points: 272
Total answers: 30

Average: 9,07[/QUOTE]
ur counting doesnt make any sense, show me any real article who ranked lebron outside top10, than ill be ok with that.

[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Except he's much closer to GOAT than not top 15. So realistically, at worst top 5.[/QUOTE]


In a day or two when this vote end... if we have 100 answers I can create a real statistical analysis. At this point, there aren't enough votes for it to be representative.

Yes, I can see your point.

[QUOTE=zeerghit]ur counting doesnt make any sense, show me any real article who ranked lebron outside top10, than ill be ok with that.[/QUOTE]


It's pretty damn simple math. Based on votes being cast in this thread. It will not mirror any 'article' and it shouldn't. We want to know what this board thinks not what a certain media outlet pushes.

[QUOTE=elementally morale]It's pretty damn simple math. Based on votes being cast on in this thread. It will not mirror any 'article' and it shouldn't. We want to know what this board thinks not what a certain media outlet pushes.[/QUOTE]
so u can put lets say top50, numbers is getting inflated, i really dont know is this correct word im saying but i think u get the point?

[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]you have to factor in the fact that simons alts voted at least 10+ times


:lol[/QUOTE]
And vice-versa.

[QUOTE=zeerghit]so u can put lets say top50, numbers is getting inflated, i really dont know is this correct word im saying but i think u get the point?[/QUOTE]


Yes. The not top 15 votes are weighted 18 points in the aggregate. If I put it at 16... not much of a change.

From 8.54 to 8.05. And 16 is the minimum value you can set for 'not top 15'.

[QUOTE=AirBonner]And vice-versa.[/QUOTE]


Don't worry. I'll give you a detailed analysis. What happens if I exclude this or that. It won't change the outcome as much as you guys think.

The more votes the better.

41 votes so far.
Total points 312
Average: 7,6

If GOAT and Not top 15 votes excluded:

25 votes
total points: 161
average. 6,4

fringe top 10

Firmly anywhere from 7-9 For sure.

The athletic freaks makes everyone's list (Shaq, wilt and etc)

Top 10ish