Kobe/Jordan won Finals with these stats, LeBron lost Finals with these stats

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay][B]Kobe/Jordan won with:[/B]

15ppg on 37% (Kobe in 2000)

24ppg on 40% (Kobe in 2001)

27ppg on 41% (Jordan in 1996)

4 rebounds and 2 assists on 42% (Jordan in 1998)

6/24 shooting (Kobe in 2010)



[SIZE="4"][B]LeBron lost with:[/B]

36/13/9 in 2015

34/12/10 in 2017

35/10/8 in 2018

28/8/4 on 58% in 2014[/SIZE]



[SIZE="5"]Why?[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

It's because Lebron is holding the ball way longer to get those stats, so his teammates are getting less stats and not being maximized, while brand and overall teamwork suffers..

Otoh, MJ and Kobe get their stats with less time, so their teammates have more time with the ball and always seem to look better, along with their teams.

But regardless, Lebron always needed prime Pippen stats or better from his sidekick to win - his worse sidekick performance in a winning-Finals was Wade's 20/5/5 on 48% in 2013.. Otoh, MJ won the 96' Finals with 15 on 34% from his sidekick, and nearly the same in 1998.

It should also be noted that MJ averaged 33.7 and 6.6 apg in the 91-93 playoffs, versus 27.2 and 7.2 for Lebron during his 3 championship runs (12/13/16).. For the Finals only, MJ averaged 36.3 and 7.9 apg, to Lebron's 27.0 and 7.2... No comparison - MJ did far more to win... MJ's overall playoff stats from 85-93 was 35/7/7, compared to Lebron's 27/7/7 for his first 9 years.
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[QUOTE=Dray n Klay][B]Kobe/Jordan won with:[/B]

15ppg on 37% (Kobe in 2000)

24ppg on 40% (Kobe in 2001)

27ppg on 41% (Jordan in 1996)

4 rebounds and 2 assists on 42% (Jordan in 1998)

6/24 shooting (Kobe in 2010)



[B]LeBron lost with:[/B]

36/13/9 in 2015

34/12/10 in 2017

35/10/8 in 2018

28/8/4 on 58% in 2014



Why?[/QUOTE]

Because LeBron plays to create a narrative. He grabs all the stats in order to get all the praise if he wins and to have excuses to hide behind if he loses. Winning is a distant second priority. He needs to pick his shots to keep a certain percentage and grab a couple of rebounds late when the game is out of reach so casual fans like you can pump him up all over the internet even though his team got blown out by a record margin.

[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Because LeBron plays to create a narrative. He grabs all the stats in order to get all the praise if he wins and to have excuses to hide behind if he loses. Winning is a distant second priority. He needs to pick his shots to keep a certain percentage and grab a couple of rebounds late when the game is out of reach so casual fans like you can pump him up all over the internet even though his team got blown out by a record margin.[/QUOTE]
Jordanstan melting down.

Have you ever REMOTELY considered the fact that basketball is played on a basketball court and not on paper?

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]How was MJ able to win with 4 rebounds and 2 assists?[/QUOTE]

By also shooting 42% FG :lol

[QUOTE=SpaceJam2]By also shooting 42% FG :lol[/QUOTE]
Jazz beat Duncan/Popovich, and Robinson

Jazz > Duncan/Popovich

So MJ would destroy Duncan much worse than he beat the Jazz in 1998 - probably win with 32% shooting instead of 42%.. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=3ball]Jazz beat Duncan/Popovich, and Robinson

the team that destroyed Lebron (Spurs) was destroyed by the Jazz - MJ beat the Jazz in 6, so he'd sweep Duncan[/QUOTE]
Your dumbass really say the '98 Spurs was the same team LeBron faced in '07

:roll:

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Your dumbass really say the '98 Spurs was the same team LeBron faced in '07

:roll:[/QUOTE]
"the team Lebron faced" as if the 07' Spurs are recognized as a great team or something

they sucked and Kobe destroyed them in 2008, because he averaged the 30 ppg on good efficiency that LeBron couldn't in 2007

And sorry, but Robinson > Ginobili or Parker

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay;13648456][B]Kobe/Jordan won with:[/B]

15ppg on 37% (Kobe in 2000)

24ppg on 40% (Kobe in 2001)

27ppg on 41% (Jordan in 1996)

4 rebounds and 2 assists on 42% (Jordan in 1998)

6/24 shooting (Kobe in 2010)



[B]LeBron lost with:[/B]

36/13/9 in 2015

34/12/10 in 2017

35/10/8 in 2018

28/8/4 on 58% in 2014



Why?[/QUOTE]

Damn

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay;13648456][B]Kobe/Jordan won with:[/B]

15ppg on 37% (Kobe in 2000)

24ppg on 40% (Kobe in 2001)

27ppg on 41% (Jordan in 1996)

4 rebounds and 2 assists on 42% (Jordan in 1998)

6/24 shooting (Kobe in 2010)



[B]LeBron lost with:[/B]

36/13/9 in 2015

34/12/10 in 2017

35/10/8 in 2018

28/8/4 on 58% in 2014



Why?[/QUOTE]

Because Lebron is a stat-padder. He doesn't know how to take over a game in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line. It's been that way his whole career.

[QUOTE=And1AllDay;13648493]One guy plays weak people and wins with weak numbers and the other plays with better numbers and loses because he isnt facing 6'1 Paytons or auto mechanics

-Edited by me for accuracy now your welcome doop[/QUOTE]

You should edit it again, Payton was 6'-4"

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay;13648747]Why did Jordan LOSE with an all star teammate in 1990 and 1995, while LeBron won without any all stars in 2016? :eek:[/QUOTE]

You do realize there were no other all-stars on the Bulls 1991 and 1998 championship teams right?

[QUOTE=The Iron Fist;13648459][IMG]https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/Ih8iUUvtZVtbfBJ1V9_7Aw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD0xOTc7dz0yODg-/http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/gifs/mac-and-me-wheelchair-accident-cliff-river-13602818954.gif.cf.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Sht :oldlol:

Because Lebron would rather look good in a loss than win and not be the main attention.

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay;13648747]Why did Jordan LOSE with an all star teammate in 1990 and 1995, while LeBron won without any all stars in 2016? :eek:[/QUOTE]

Why did Lebron LOSE with [B]two[/B] all star teammates in 2011, while MJ won without any all stars in 1991 and 1998?