Re: Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history
[QUOTE=Smoke117]Speed? Are you joking. David Robinson moved as well as someone like Scottie Pippen while being a legit big man. Robinson was jumping hurdles in college. Malone isn't even close to as fast as Robinson was.[/QUOTE]
[B]I said [I]maybe[/I] not definetly regarding speed. Strength wise Malone was stronger than Robinson.
Wilt was a combination of both. Check out the way he moves in his 20s while playing for the Globetrotters
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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTMSi_LJqA[/url]
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[B][U]The Speed of Wilt Chamberlain[/U][/B]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B22U73v7kAA[/url]
[B][U]Wilt vs 7
Re: Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history
[QUOTE=Smoke117]If that's all you got from this you clearly are too young to have actually watched him play in the early 90s.[/QUOTE]
I have watched him play. A lot of him playing. He's not as athletic as Wilt and that's from watching countless hours of both of them. His athleticism is more on par with Bill Russell than Wilt and that's no diss to Robinson. He's long and agile but he was never as big or as strong as Wilt. Robinson was 227lbs in the 1988 Olympics, and 235lbs as an NBA rookie. He bulked up to 265 at his absolute heaviest where as Wilt was a 258lb rookie that bulked up to 320lbs and often played above 300. They are apples and oranges in athletic ability not due to agility but due to size and strength.
Re: Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVqpXl3M18[/url] The way he moved was ridiculous when you take in the fact that he's a legit 7 feet.
And just look how dominant he was defensively, 1st in blocks at this point with 5.0 a game (lmfao) and fifth in the league in steals with 2.3. Just a complete terror.
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[QUOTE=Smoke117][IMG]https://i.redd.it/bckipyz73ba11.jpg[/IMG] ...yeah...he was a twig alright.[/QUOTE]
Telephoto zoom lenses fill out a figure.
Robinson retired at 265lbs, the heaviest he ever was - and he had a wrecked back those seasons and was less mobile at that weight.
As a rookie he was 235lbs. In his first olympic appearance he was 227.
Yeah, he was a twig his first several years in the league. Those years where he looked super mobile. He was never the strongest guy in the league. Ewing was stronger than Robinson and didn't look cut at all. Wilt was perhaps the strongest player in history. On a larger frame - he dwarfed Ewing when they met. And Wilt was about as agile as Robinson. I don't even consider them close as far as athletic comparisons for that reason. Wilt filled up an NBA court and couldn't be moved off a block like Boban but moved more like Robinson.
Re: Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history
[B]Another center who was very athletic and strong was 80's Arvydas Sabonis
prior to 1987 Injury:[/B]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYnLxrs4W8[/url]
Re: Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history
[QUOTE=Round Mound][B]Another center who was very athletic and strong was 80's Arvydas Sabonis
prior to 1987 Injury:[/B]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYnLxrs4W8[/url][/QUOTE]
Sabas would be top 20 all time if he came to the NBA when he was actually in his prime. Love the guy and will have nothing to say bad about him ever. I adored him on the blazers.
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[QUOTE=Smoke117]Sabas would be top 20 all time if he came to the NBA when he was actually in his prime. Love the guy and will have nothing to say bad about him ever. I adored him on the blazers.[/QUOTE]
[B]Sucks that the NBA did not get to see prior to 1987 80's Sabonis. Prior to injury he was a beast. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Round Mound][B]Sucks that the NBA did not get to see prior to 1987 80's Sabonis. Prior to injury he was a beast. [/B][/QUOTE]
He was still pretty damn good in the NBA considering his mobility was about 40% of what it was at his peak. Just a great basketball player.
Re: Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history
[QUOTE=Smoke117]He was still pretty damn good in the NBA considering his mobility was about 40% of what it was at his peak. Just a great basketball player.[/QUOTE]
:cheers:
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[QUOTE=Round Mound]:cheers:[/QUOTE]
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Re: Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history
[QUOTE=Bronbron23]There's obviously not as much video of wilt but there's enough to get an idea. Not sure why you think Bron is faster and can jump higher. Wilt was an elite high jumper and sprinter.[/QUOTE]
Show me clips of Wilt moving faster and jumping higher than peak LeBron, i'd love to see them
Re: Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history
Wilt was weak and slow, footage doesn't lie
Bill Russell was a much better athlete, hence the domination of Wilt
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[QUOTE=Manny98]Show me clips of Wilt moving faster and jumping higher than peak LeBron, i'd love to see them[/QUOTE]
See above. Round mound posted a bunch of videos showing wilts speed, jumping and strength.
It's irrelevant though tbh. Wilt dosnt even have to be faster or as fast as LeBron. He dosnt have to be able to jump as high or higher than LeBron. He just has to be close because he's much bigger. Lebron isn't viewed by some as the greatest athlete ever in the NBA because he's stronger, faster and can jump higher than everyone. He's looked on that way because people are amazed that someone that size can move, run and jump as fast or high as he can. There's plenty of smaller players that have higher verticals than LeBron. There's plenty of smaller players that are faster than lebron. There's plenty of bigger players that are stronger than LeBron. There's just nobody his size thats competitive in all three areas.
So if your gonna apply that reasoning to LeBron you have to apply it to wilt aslo:confusedshrug:
Re: Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history
[QUOTE=Manny98]Show me clips of Wilt moving faster and jumping higher than peak LeBron, i'd love to see them[/QUOTE]
Lebron never blocked a jump shot off one step, two feet like this:
[IMG]https://youtu.be/QF8yJ1J1W7Q?t=42[/IMG]
It's hard to tell exactly how high up Wilt goal-tended that shot, but it's at least above the box. Screen-shot measurements put it between 12-4 and top of the backboard.
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DRob isn’t in the conversation.
In no order, the top 4 are Shaq, Wilt, MJ and LeBron... take your pick, I won’t argue.
But DRob? Lol.
DRob isn’t even as athletic as Dwight Howard. Dwight ran faster was stronger despite being shorter and jumped significantly higher.