[QUOTE=Clifton;14246003]
I feel like I'm the only one who's noticed that Brady has almost never played more than two consecutive quarters of good football.
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This is hilariously wrong lol
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[QUOTE=Clifton;14246003]
I feel like I'm the only one who's noticed that Brady has almost never played more than two consecutive quarters of good football.
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This is hilariously wrong lol
[QUOTE=Nanners;14246045]:roll:
Do you really not know what "athlete means", or are you just pretending to be stupid because you think somehow it will help your argument?
Athlete - noun - a person who competes in one or more sports that involve [B]physical strength, speed or endurance[/B].
You know who Tom Brady would destroy in lifting, running, basketball, baseball, soccer, and virtually any other test of athletic ability? Jack Nicklaus at any age. The only thing Jack is better at is hitting a ball with a stick in a big open field... if you want to call him an athlete then you might as well call pool players and bowlers athletes too.[/QUOTE]
Tom lacks in 2 of the 3. Yet he's more of an athlete than Jack Nicklaus based on? Jesus you're drowning yourself here. How do you know how much of an athlete Jack is in relation to Brady? You don't. It's perception, a perception where you envision an older Jack vs Tom. Its sad. Tom is not an athlete according to your definition. Its why he was drafted late. Shitty combine, which magnifies your athleticism which Tom lacks. Hes great for all things NOT PHYSICAL.
You called swimming a 2nd tier sport and Phelps is more of an athlete Tom ever was at any age in life. And swimming is all on you. It's not about any refs swaying the game. It's not about depending on your OL protecting you. Its not dependant on your kicker making a FG. All the boxes you defined with an athlete you lazily googled? Phelps checks the boxes and Brady only checks one, endurance. So who is the athlete here? It's phelps right? All Brady does is throw the ball. He doesn't play defense or special teams that can effect a game even if you have a perfect passer rating. Somehow football is more of a 1st tier spot than swimming or tennis. You sound dumb as hell, yiiiiikes
[QUOTE=Wally450;14246060]There isn't an argument. Tom Brady is far and away the best QB ever.[/QUOTE]
I don't give a f*ck what you think. I just sh*tted on your moronic post saying i'm a hater. And instead of being a good boy and acknowledging you copy/paste one thing you disagree with. As if it has anything to do with what you initially said. You dudes are weird here.
But you're apart of the Brady bunch, trying to reason or talk sense to them is a waste of time.
Brady has basically 3 hof careers combined into one
[QUOTE=GOBB;14246073]Tom lacks in 2 of the 3. Yet he's more of an athlete than Jack Nicklaus based on? Jesus you're drowning yourself here. How do you know how much of an athlete Jack is in relation to Brady? You don't. It's perception, a perception where you envision an older Jack vs Tom. Its sad. Tom is not an athlete according to your definition. Its why he was drafted late. Shitty combine, which magnifies your athleticism which Tom lacks. Hes great for all things NOT PHYSICAL.
You called swimming a 2nd tier sport and Phelps is more of an athlete Tom ever was at any age in life. And swimming is all on you. It's not about any refs swaying the game. It's not about depending on your OL protecting you. Its not dependant on your kicker making a FG. All the boxes you defined with an athlete you lazily googled? Phelps checks the boxes and Brady only checks one, endurance. So who is the athlete here? It's phelps right? All Brady does is throw the ball. He doesn't play defense or special teams that can effect a game even if you have a perfect passer rating. Somehow football is more of a 1st tier spot than swimming or tennis. You sound dumb as hell, yiiiiikes[/QUOTE]
Imagine thinking that a 5'10" golfer could compete with a 6'4" NFL QB in any test of strength/speed/endurance
Imagine thinking a man who has absorbed over 500 NFL sacks is not an athlete
Tennis is a 2nd tier sport, swimming is probably 3rd or 4th tier. How many americans can name more than 1 pro swimmer? How many kids dream of a career in competitive swimming? How many americans watch swimming competitions more often than once every 4 years? Theres no question that Phelps is an insanely talented athlete and the GOAT swimmer, my point is that its easier to be GOAT in a sport that doesnt have millions of kids dreaming about going pro someday.
Dumbest shit I’ve read in 2021 so far. Wow. And for the record there’s more to being an athlete than strength speed and endurance. One day you’ll realize that or not
Yeah you can't compare individual sport to football. Its not even close. Brady isn't even the best QB either, he's just had the luckiest circumstances. Mahomes is easily better than Brady. Being the GOAT in an individual sport means you're actually the goat. Being the 'goat of football' has way too many variables to be conclusive. Brady isnt actually the best football player ever. He's had easily the best circumstances therefore won the most
He's literally bill Russell and almost nobody calls Bill the goat or even most accomplished athlete. And he had way more to do with winning than Brady did since basketball relies more on individual play.
Phelps, bolt, woods, mayweather, shaq, lebron, trout, federer, Nadal, messi, Ronaldo (and many more) >>>> Brady
[QUOTE=GOBB;14246090]Dumbest shit I’ve read in 2021 so far. Wow. And for the record there’s more to being an athlete than strength speed and endurance. One day you’ll realize that or not[/QUOTE]
Stats? Brady has those. Rings? Oh he has those too.
Brady wasn't the best player in regular season or post season
Umm... wait why does he credit in GOAT debates?
That doesn't make logical sense. Him not being the best player but still winning a ring PROVES football is thr ultimate team sport, and therefore his rings aren't even as close to as important as winning majors/championships/gold medals in individual sport. Its not even comparable
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14246099]Brady wasn't the best player in regular season or post season
Umm... wait why does he credit in GOAT debates?
That doesn't make logical sense. Him not being the best player but still winning a ring PROVES football is thr ultimate team sport, and therefore his rings aren't even as close to as important as winning majors/championships/gold medals in individual sport. Its not even comparable[/QUOTE]
How much money did you lose on the game last night?
[QUOTE=GrayGoat;14246095]Stats? Brady has those. Rings? Oh he has those too.[/QUOTE]
Who said he had none of those things? No one. Nice irrelevant reply. What was mentioned is Brady is the most accomplished based on Sb appearances, Sb wins and MVPS. Nothing more nothing less. That’s not true. I already listed people who accomplished just as much of not more. So now we have people trying to define what an athlete is and eliminating sports to boost Brady up. There are a lot of errors in people’s post. Error 1 is Brady is the greatest football player of all time which includes all positions. That’s false. Error 2 Brady won the more titles out of any athlete all time. That’s false. Brady may have the best resume out of any football player. But when you talk sports in general? Not even close. Unless you’re some weirdo that eliminates players because they aren’t the GOAT in their sport, you give sports tiers and boost football to tier 1.
How is Tom Brady any more of an athlete than Pele, Messi? How is Tom Brady any more of an athlete than Bill Russell? He’s not. Bill has 11 rings and 5 MVPS. But because people never said he was the goat he doesn’t qualify as the most accomplished athlete. Lol Even tho the premise of this thread was based on championship titles won and MVP awards collected. People in here moving the goal post left and right like Oompa Loompas
[QUOTE=GrayGoat;14246101]How much money did you lose on the game last night?[/QUOTE]
None. Im not a retard who bets on sports.. that shit is for amateurs
I'm a miionaire investor, not a degenerate
[QUOTE=GOBB;14245944]Prisoners of the moment. Plenty of athletes have accomplished more than Brady. And that’s no knock on him because he accomplished a lot in football. But when you go beyond football? You’re wrong.[/QUOTE]
Who?
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14246123]Who?[/QUOTE]
Read
LeBron would have accomplished more by the time he's finished