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[QUOTE=tontoz;14705214]So a guy who averaged 16 ppg and got eliminated in the first round was the best player in the league in 2015?
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Can you read? I said by the logic he was using. All the data says Jokic is the best player right now he’s just furious it doesn’t say his crush is.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14705219]Can you read? I said by the logic he was using. All the data says Jokic is the best player right now he’s just furious it doesn’t say his crush is.[/QUOTE]
There is no logic comparing Kawhi in 2015 to Curry now. Curry was 5th on MVP ladder before he got hurt in spite of their bad record
[url]https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-nov-25-2022-edition[/url]
not to mention that that he averaged 31 ppg in the finals against an elite defense (Kawhi only averaged 17.8). Curry was also MVP finalist in 2021. Kawhi was just a role player.
As far a Jokic goes he has won two straight MVPs so there is no question he is elite. His advanced numbers have been sick basically ever since he lost weight.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14705233]There is no logic comparing Kawhi in 2015 to Curry now. Curry was 5th on MVP ladder before he got hurt in spite of their bad record
[url]https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-nov-25-2022-edition[/url]
not to mention that that he averaged 31 ppg in the finals against an elite defense (Kawhi only averaged 17.8). Curry was also MVP finalist in 2021. Kawhi was just a role player.[/QUOTE]
You’re apparently too dense to get that I meant the best player on the team that won the previous year isn’t automatically the best player. It’s simpleminded logic. Jokic is by all measures the best player right now.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14705234]You’re apparently too dense to get that I meant the best player on the team that won the previous year isn’t automatically the best player. It’s simpleminded logic. Jokic is by all measures the best player right now.[/QUOTE]
That isn't a valid comparison because Kawhi was just a role player at that time. He averaged only 12.8 ppg the year he won his first title. Not even remotely comparable to Curry who has 2 MVPs and was in the MVP race before he got hurt.
Do better
[QUOTE=tontoz;14705238]That isn't a valid comparison because Kawhi was just a role player at that time. He averaged only 12.8 ppg the year he won his first title. Not even remotely comparable to Curry who has 2 MVPs and was in the MVP race before he got hurt.
Do better[/QUOTE]
Make an argument for Curry being better than Jokic currently besides RANGZZZZZZZ DOEEEE and I will.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14705241]Make an argument for Curry being better than Jokic currently besides RANGZZZZZZZ DOEEEE and I will.[/QUOTE]
I never said Curry was better than Jokic. I just think your Kawhi comparison was dumb.
If you want to argue Jokic is better than Curry you should be able to do it without making a dumb comparison like that. You shouldn't need to bring up another player at all.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14705245]I never said Curry was better than Jokic. I just think your Kawhi comparison was dumb.
If you want to argue Jokic is better than Curry you should be able to do it without making a dumb comparison like that. You shouldn't need to bring up another player at all.[/QUOTE]
Except I already did I said he had better impact stats. HoldthisL responded with RANGZZZZ DOE but you of course took his side because Curry gives your private parts the shivers.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14705246]Except I already did I said he had better impact stats. HoldthisL responded with RANGZZZZ DOE but you of course took his side because Curry gives your private parts the shivers.[/QUOTE]
I think you misread his meaning. When you went into your typical "fuming" nonsense that is when he brought up the ring. I don't think he is too upset about anything after his team just won another title. He didn't even say who he feels the current top two players are.
Your lame fall back "fuming...seething...meltdown" nonsense is just lazy.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14705233]There is no logic comparing Kawhi in 2015 to Curry now. Curry was 5th on MVP ladder before he got hurt in spite of their bad record
[url]https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-nov-25-2022-edition[/url]
not to mention that that he averaged 31 ppg in the finals against an elite defense (Kawhi only averaged 17.8). Curry was also MVP finalist in 2021. Kawhi was just a role player.[/quote]
[Url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?379867-Finals-MVP-Alpha-Male-Curry-Appreciation-Thread]Not enough[/url] for him to win a finals mvp until last season tho. :ohwell:
[QUOTE=Axe;14705249][Url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?379867-Finals-MVP-Alpha-Male-Curry-Appreciation-Thread]Not enough[/url] for him to win a finals mvp until last season tho. :ohwell:[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't you be busy flirting with your boyfriends Full Court and Baller?
Come on, uncle. Now isn't the time for such nonsense. :(
[QUOTE=Axe;14705253]Come on, uncle. Now isn't the time for such nonsense. :([/QUOTE]
That's never stopped you before :oldlol:
He's kind of overrated actually. Love his game from time to time but he did get outplayed by CJ Mccollum in a game 7 at home when Dame played like absolute dogshit. Hard to let that one go.
[QUOTE=BigShotBob;14705257]He's kind of overrated actually. Love his game from time to time but he did get outplayed by CJ Mccollum in a game 7 at home when Dame played like absolute dogshit. Hard to let that one go.[/QUOTE]
What kinda bullshit argument is this :lol Using a literal ONE game sample size, from two years before he hit his peak? What an incredibly dumb take.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14705261]What kinda bullshit argument is this :lol Using a literal ONE game sample size, from two years before he hit his peak? What an incredibly dumb take.[/QUOTE]
Posts like his are common for some reason. Just proves my point even more. Was someone like Barkley (top 20 player of all time in a lot of people's minds) ever as good as Jokic has been these last 2-3 years? I say no.