Killer of Killers

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15012391]Take the movie EndGame for example...

Most people had a problem with all the Female characters uniting for a Super Girl-Power moment... which was at the the end of the film.

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My biggest problem with Wokeness in EndGame was in the the very beginning of the film lol.

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Here we have the most anticipated comic book movie of all time... and the director is talking about his Gay Date and weak Man-Crying in the opening scene.

It's completely unnecessary, unneeded and made me cringe.... This is the type of $hit that completely ruined the show "The Last of Us"[/QUOTE]

Yeah they didn't give a single fukk in Endgame. All the female heroes just happening to be on the same spot in the battlefield for a girl power photo op.

[QUOTE=Meticode;15012392]They still keep churning out garbage..Snow Brown being the most recent bad example. I'm sure the M-She-U will keep doing woke.[/QUOTE]

From what I've read and seen, reportedly the Fantastic 4 movie will mostly feature Sue Storm with everyone else in the background. Of course, the Silver Surfer is also female( yes, I'm aware there's a comic storyline with a female surfer), so you know that's all the opening Marvel needed. :facepalm

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so which is better?

Killer of Killers vs Spiderverse

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Spider-verse is definitely better IMO, but Predators KOK is real solid. I think it fell off slightly at the end with the WW2 part as I didn't find it as interesting as the Vikings/Japan stories, but it finished pretty good and the easter egg of the Prey chick signalling that they're going around collecting those we've seen in the films kill Predators opens up some interesting future possibilities. Though I would have gone with Dutch at the end for maximum effect.

[QUOTE=Phoenix;15012397]Spider-verse is definitely better IMO, but Predators KOK is real solid. I think it fell off slightly at the end with the WW2 part as I didn't find it as interesting as the Vikings/Japan stories, but it finished pretty good and the easter egg of the Prey chick signalling that they're going around collecting those we've seen in the films kill Predators opens up some interesting future possibilities. Though I would have gone with Dutch at the end for maximum effect.[/QUOTE]

man... Killer of Killers comes close though because for me it's a first of it's kind.

I don't watch much animation, and when I do, it's never Rated R, and Predator is surprisingly more of a childhood favorite (1987) compared to spider-man.

There's about 4 or 5 episodes of "What-If?" that I'd say are close to Spider-verse level.




The best way to watch a movie is to go in with low expectations and low interest... and then be caught off-guard with a masterpiece.

And Spider-Verse was successful in that regard... took my 10-year old son to see it in theaters at the time (2018)... thought it might be interesting to watch in 3-D..... ending up leaving the theater mind-blown.


It's gonna be hard to take down the animated champ that is Spider-Verse.... but Predator and What-If have come close.

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15012401]man... Killer of Killers comes close though because for me it's a first of it's kind.

I don't watch much animation, and when I do, it's never Rated R, and Predator is surprisingly more of a childhood favorite (1987) compared to spider-man.

There's about 4 or 5 episodes of "What-If?" that I'd say are close to Spider-verse level.




[B]The best way to watch a movie is to go in with low expectations and low interest... and then be caught off-guard with a masterpiece. [/B]

And Spider-Verse was successful in that regard... took my 10-year old son to see it in theaters at the time (2018)... thought it might be interesting to watch in 3-D..... ending up leaving the theater mind-blown.


It's gonna be hard to take down the animated champ that is Spider-Verse.... but Predator and What-If have come close.[/QUOTE]

I had similarly low expectations for this, but I thought it was a genuinely well done movie and opens up the lore in some interesting ways. It's actually kind of cool that both the Alien and Predator franchises have gotten a shot in the arm in recent years( Alien Romulus was pretty decent too, mind you I think Predator KOK is a better watch overall).

And then I made a fatal mistake and took my oldest son to see The Predator in theaters

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and after we left the theaters... my son looks at me and says: "Dad, wtf was that?" and I just looked at him said: "I'm sorry, son... I thought it might've been better than that"

Oh 'The Predator' is complete dogshit. I think 'Predators' with Adrian Brody is pretty underrated though, and maybe they'll tie up that story within this series.

More woke debate? Imagine if T2 or Aliens (both with strong female leads) had come out today? All the whining about how woke those movies are. People would call them horrible moves just due to having a woman in them. I guess they dodged a bullet there.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15012464]More woke debate? Imagine if T2 or Aliens (both with strong female leads) had come out today? All the whining about how woke those movies are. People would call them horrible moves just due to having a woman in them. I guess they dodged a bullet there.[/QUOTE]

Imagine if you weren’t a low iq f.aggot

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15012464]More woke debate? Imagine if T2 or Aliens (both with strong female leads) had come out today? All the whining about how woke those movies are. People would call them horrible moves just due to having a woman in them. I guess they dodged a bullet there.[/QUOTE]

Or Star Wars for that matter. The difference is those movies didn't consciously write the men in those movies to be complete morons to offset them against the empowered female. Sarah Conner, Ripley and Princess Leia were all great characters with the appropriate sensibilities and vulnerabilities to make them relatable. The fact that they were also female was never the point. Modern Hollywood doesn't know how to write.

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15012395][url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521382-Predator-vs-Spider-Man-2025-who-you-got&p=14996708[/url]

so which is better?

Killer of Killers vs Spiderverse

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Spider-verse. The ending to the sequel was awesome. Great cliffhanger. Not even close to me.

[QUOTE=Phoenix;15012466]Or Star Wars for that matter. The difference is those movies didn't consciously write the men in those movies to be complete morons to offset them against the empowered female. Sarah Conner, Ripley and Princess Leia were all great characters with the appropriate sensibilities and vulnerabilities to make them relatable. The fact that they were also female was never the point. Modern Hollywood doesn't know how to write.[/QUOTE]

I don't think those movies would be called woke today by most people if they came out today. Their characters didn't feel unnatural or out of place or overpowering. Sarah Conner was never the lead in any of the Terminator films. Arnold overpowered everyone. In T2 Arnold and John were the main focus for majority of the movie and Sarah was the third most important character. In the original Kyle Reese was her protector. Same thing with Princess Leia. Vader, Luke and maybe even Han Solo were stronger characters.

Ripley is different though, but she wasn't thrown into the main lead role unnaturally. She didn't just become a badass in Aliens out of nowhere. She went through trials and tribulations in the first film, showed fear, showed weakness and overcoming it. And what she is in Aliens is her facing her fears.

Compare that to something like Rey in Star Wars, the first time she picks up a lightsaber she suddenly can defeat Kylo Ren who's trained with the Force and lightsaber for years and was a proper padawan, but she can defeat him? Several times in fact? That's crazy woke. Two totally different animals.

[QUOTE=Meticode;15012473]I don't think those movies would be called woke today by most people if they came out today. Their characters didn't feel unnatural or out of place or overpowering. Sarah Conner was never the lead in any of the Terminator films. Arnold overpowered everyone. In T2 Arnold and John were the main focus for majority of the movie and Sarah was the third most important character. In the original Kyle Reese was her protector. Same thing with Princess Leia. Vader, Luke and maybe even Han Solo were stronger characters.

Ripley is different though, but she wasn't thrown into the main lead role unnaturally. She didn't just become a badass in Aliens out of nowhere. She went through trials and tribulations in the first film, showed fear, showed weakness and overcoming it. And what she is in Aliens is her facing her fears.

Compare that to something like Rey in Star Wars, the first time she picks up a lightsaber she suddenly can defeat Kylo Ren who's trained with the Force and lightsaber for years and was a proper padawan, but she can defeat him? Several times in fact? That's crazy woke. Two totally different animals.[/QUOTE]

The only reason I say they would be is because of the current environment of 'empowered female character' movies and I think those films would get ( unjustifiably) lumped into that category. Those women wouldn't necessarily have to be the 'main' character per se, just prominently featured like Sarah Conner was even though Terminator was an Arnold vehicle. Sarah in T2 IMO would definitely be considered 'woke' in 2025, not because she really was, but just because of the environment we're in and I don't think many people can critically tell the difference nowadays. They'd equate Leia and Rey as 'woke' even though they're worlds apart in characterization. Granted, if those movies were actually made today they would probably depict those women differently. Remember that we first met Leia back in 1977 as the 'damsel in distress' that needed to be rescued by the two ( white cis) males. That wouldn't fly today. Actually if you recall, they had a lightsaber training scene in Rise of Skywalker and Leia got the better of Luke. I think that's a clear indication that Leia would have gotten the 'girl boss' treatment from the get-go today. They basically would have depicted her in the same way they did Rey, immediately capable of outshining the men. And Han/Luke would have been depicted as buffoons to make her look even better( which they basically did with Finn).

[QUOTE=Phoenix;15012483]The only reason I say they would be is because of the current environment of 'empowered female character' movies and I think those films would get ( unjustifiably) lumped into that category. Those women wouldn't necessarily have to be the 'main' character per se, just prominently featured like Sarah Conner was even though Terminator was an Arnold vehicle. Sarah in T2 IMO would definitely be considered 'woke' in 2025, not because she really was, but just because of the environment we're in and I don't think many people can critically tell the difference nowadays. They'd equate Leia and Rey as 'woke' even though they're worlds apart in characterization. Granted, if those movies were actually made today they would probably depict those women differently. Remember that we first met Leia back in 1977 as the 'damsel in distress' that needed to be rescued by the two ( white cis) males. That wouldn't fly today. Actually if you recall, they had a lightsaber training scene in Rise of Skywalker and Leia got the better of Luke. I think that's a clear indication that Leia would have gotten the 'girl boss' treatment from the get-go today. They basically would have depicted her in the same way they did Rey, immediately capable of outshining the men. And Han/Luke would have been depicted as buffoons to make her look even better( which they basically did with Finn).[/QUOTE]

A lot of it depends on the writing IMO. Even today. There are strong female leads today that aren't considered woke or forced. It just depends on the material. The material is usually woke. Especially from Disney lately.

[QUOTE=Meticode;15012485]A lot of it depends on the writing IMO. Even today. There are strong female leads today that aren't considered woke or forced. It just depends on the material. The material is usually woke. Especially from Disney lately.[/QUOTE]

That's just it, the Star Wars license is owned by Disney so Leia is a prime candidate. You'd need a completely different studio not intent on pushing identity politics.