From 06-08', Lebron floor-raised Cavs to 45-50 wins, and 2019 Lakers to lottery

[QUOTE=3ba11;15022375]Lebron needs great spacing to be an MVP-caliber player, so you're saying that he wouldn't be an MVP-caliber player in the 90's.

Thank you for confirming that and finally admitting the truth that Lebron wouldn't be MVP in the 90's (no spacing, as you said).

Heck, Lebron stunk without spacing in the 2000's because he barely won 40 games in 2008 before receiving an all-star spacer to open up things for his stiff-arm skillset and drive-heavy attack.. Lebron can't win 60 and MVP in a season unless he has an all-star spacer like he did in 09' or 13'.

Btw, Jordan led the Bulls in 3-point shooting for the 91-93' Playoffs, which had better 3-point shooting than Lebron.

Ultimately, spacing has always been important and it's the reason that every MVP since the 3-point line was instituted was a dominant offensive player, while 2-pointer basketball had MVP's that were defenders like Russell.. j[/QUOTE]

LeBron won a chip in 2020 with the Lakers being ranked #21 in 3pt% and #23 in 3pt makes.

1-9.

No Pip, no chip.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15022377]LeBron won a chip in 2020 with the Lakers being ranked #21 in 3pt% and #23 in 3pt makes.

1-9.

No Pip, no chip.[/QUOTE]


Lebron wasn't the leading scorer for his team in the regular season or playoffs, so AD was the guy that didn't need spacing.

No AD, no playoffs

For Lebron to win as 1st option, he needs franchise players from other teams to play 2nd and 3rd option for him, along with phenomenal spacing (top 10 3-point percentage)

[QUOTE=3ba11;15022378]Lebron wasn't the leading scorer for his team in the regular season or playoffs, so AD was the guy that didn't need spacing.

No AD, no playoffs

For Lebron to win as 1st option, he needs franchise players from other teams to play 2nd and 3rd option for him, along with phenomenal spacing (top 10 3-point percentage)[/QUOTE]

The same AD you called "Bird fed?".

[QUOTE=3ba11;15022378].Both AD and Kareem needed super-point guards like Oscar, Magic, and now Lebron to find synergies and have a great team.

Without these guys bird-feeding them, they're losers.
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:roll:

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15022379]The same AD you called "Bird fed?".




:roll:[/QUOTE]


Lebron needed teammates to match or lead him in scoring for entire playoff runs, such as the 2020, 2016, and 2012 playoffs.. he's completely carried compared to Jordan

How about kobe without shaq, pau and dwight?

[QUOTE=3ba11;15022334]however, the margins between the top 500 players in the world are slim, so missing a year or two usually eliminates the advantages some guys have...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=3ba11;15022359]As I re-read that, I realize Jordan's goatness even more.. He gave the comp a couple years to catch up, and STILL......... you know the rest[/QUOTE]

Your comprehension is even shit on your own words. This is remarkable.

Not only does Axe

Throw lots of bitch fits

But he also sports

A pair of bitch tits



:lol So true.


But the OP's point remains that Lebron has had more help than any other player in the history of the sport, and STILL massively underachieved. Lost many times as the favorite and choked more than any other player has.