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[QUOTE=NewYorkUSCtrojan]Are you this stupid? Or trying so hard to be right? William Morris signed Kobe for endorsement deals. Which you are correct. But if an athlete signs with any "AGENT", he/she loses his NCAA eligibility. So technically Kobe Bryant did sign with an Agent.[/QUOTE]
Was the name calling really needed?
Why not read what I typed again. Maybe then you'll realize that my comment was about why I was told he only had advisors and not agents.
Damn, Vlade Divac is one classy man....
The trade made sense for both teams at the time, the Lakers got the better of it.
[QUOTE=Da KO King]Was the name calling really needed?
Why not read what I typed again. Maybe then you'll realize that my comment was about why I was told he only had advisors and not agents.[/QUOTE]
[B]*Shaking Head* Listen up. Kobe Bryant signed with William Morris. William Morris Agency are "AGENTS", not advisors. Signing with any "AGENTS" loses your NCAA playing rights, even if it's an endorsement "AGENT". Are you this thick-headed?[/B]
[QUOTE=Da KO King]Actually it used to be if you didn't like were you were selected you could go back.
You gotta remember what we're talking about was two CBA's ago.[/QUOTE]
No, it used to be that if you were selected, but had eligibility, you could go back, but the team kept your rights. And this was gone by 1996. This is what happened to Bird, the Celtics took a gamble and chose him in the 78 draft, but he went back to school. They still had his rights, so it's not as if someone else could've just drafted him this year.
[QUOTE=John Starks]It would be great if everyone who is so ****-sure of their response would post some kind of source or footnote or link.
...because i think you guys don't know sh/1t.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7394204[/url]
[I]At the 1996 draft, business compelled Bryant to bluff his way out of New Jersey and into Hollywood. His agent, Arn Tellem, and sneaker benefactor, Sonny Vaccaro, told the Nets their client would play in Italy if they had the nerve to pick him.
The Nets blinked at No. 8, Bryant fell to Charlotte at No. 13, and the Lakers sent Vlade Divac to the Hornets in a pre-arranged trade[/I]
[url]http://www.mindritesports.com/category/washington-wizards/[/url]
[I]2. The Charlotte Hornets trade the draft rights to the 13th pick in the 1996 NBA Draft Kobe Bryant to the Los Angeles Lakers for Vlade Divac.
As the story goes…
The night before the 1996 draft the New Jersey Nets GM John Nash and new VP & head coach John Calipari ate dinner with Kobe Bryant’s parents. With the eighth pick of the draft the Nets were going to select the high school star. Bryant lived in the suburbs of Philadelphia allowing him to stay close to home and commute to Continental Airlines Arena in Jersey. Adidas’ Sonny Vaccaro had different plans for Kobe. Adidas just signed Kobe to a ten million dollar contract desiring him in a bigger market than New Jersey. The Hornets and the Lakers made a deal. Vaccaro and Bryant’s agent Arn Tellem told Nash that if the Nets selected Kobe he would refuse to play for them. Entering his first year as an NBA head coach Calipari did not want to take the risk. The rest is history, Kobe fell all the way to 13th were Jerry West already had his deal in place and dealt Vlade Divac for Kobe.
With that being said, Charlotte made a terrible mistake giving Kobe Bryant away to the Lakers. Sure Vlade Divac is one of only four (Kareem, Olajuwon, and Garnett) players in NBA history to achieve 13,000pts, 9,000rebs, and 3,000 assists. I don’t care if the 1996-1997 season was the best season in franchise history (54-28) for the Hornets. Vlade only averaged 11pts and 9rebs during his two seasons with the Hornets. I am sure the hive would have loved a Mugsy Bogues, Kobe Bryant backcourt to team with Glen Rice and Anthony Mason.[/I]
[QUOTE=GOBB][url]http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7394204[/url]
[I]At the 1996 draft, business compelled Bryant to bluff his way out of New Jersey and into Hollywood. His agent, Arn Tellem, and sneaker benefactor, Sonny Vaccaro, told the Nets their client would play in Italy if they had the nerve to pick him.
The Nets blinked at No. 8, Bryant fell to Charlotte at No. 13, and the Lakers sent Vlade Divac to the Hornets in a pre-arranged trade[/I][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the link GOBB. Just another proof, that Kobe Bryant did have an agent entering the draft.
[QUOTE=GOBB][url]Adidas
[QUOTE=SomeBunghole]No, it used to be that if you were selected, but had eligibility, you could go back, but the team kept your rights. And this was gone by 1996. This is what happened to Bird, the Celtics took a gamble and chose him in the 78 draft, but he went back to school. They still had his rights, so it's not as if someone else could've just drafted him this year.[/QUOTE]
That's silly. So if you don't like were you got drafted you can go back to college but are stuck where you got drafted? What's the point then? :confusedshrug:
Thanks for the link GoBB.
[QUOTE=NewYorkUSCtrojan]Thanks for the link GOBB. Just another proof, that Kobe Bryant did have an agent entering the draft.[/QUOTE]and that a deal was in place before the draft
[QUOTE=Da KO King]
By only having them as advisors Kobe would keep his eligibility. Since Kobe's family still had a good deal of money from his dad's playing career they paid out the pocket for all the pre-draft workouts/training thus keeping him good for the NCAA.[/QUOTE]
Wrong.
Entering draft night, his agent, Arn Tellem, and sneaker benefactor, Sonny Vaccaro, told the Nets their client would play in Italy if they had the nerve to pick him.
[QUOTE=gts]and that a deal was in place before the draft[/QUOTE]
thanks gts.
[QUOTE=NewYorkUSCtrojan][B]*Shaking Head* Listen up. Kobe Bryant signed with William Morris. William Morris Agency are "AGENTS", not advisors. Are you this thick-headed?[/B][/QUOTE]
You really are a ja[SIZE="2"]ck[/SIZE]ass.
Early in this thread I said, "I believe Kobe 'only' had advisors not agents. Same function but a loophole in wording."
You then bring up Kobe Bryant signing with William Morris. WM is not a sporting agency and does not speak to NBA teams. So that means Kobe either spoke to NBA suits himself or had someone guiding him.
My response was "Maybe that's why he only had advisors." (if I knew you would be such a jackass about it I would have typed "Maybe that's [B]why I was told[/B] he only had advisors")
I think it's clear to anyone with decent reading comprehension that I'm not arguing his signing with an agency. I'm simply speaking on why I was under the impression that he only had advisors through the draft process... which WM has no hand in because they only do endorsments and not player contracts.
[QUOTE=Da KO King]That's silly. So if you don't like were you got drafted you can go back to college but are stuck where you got drafted? What's the point then? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
No, Bird never declared for the draft. He was automatically eligible under the then-CBA, and he also had one year of NCAA eligibility left. Since he had no intention of playing in the NBA that year, and he had done nothing to void his eligibility, he played one more year.
Anyway, there's useful information here that explains why Kobe could not go back to college, no matter what team drafted him: [url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/news/1998/07/01/mcdavid_back/[/url]
[QUOTE=Da KO King]You really are a ja[SIZE="2"]ck[/SIZE]ass.
Early in this thread I said, "I believe Kobe 'only' had advisors not agents. Same function but a loophole in wording."
You then bring up Kobe Bryant signing with William Morris. WM is not a sporting agency and does not speak to NBA teams. So that means Kobe either spoke to NBA suits himself or had someone guiding him.
My response was "Maybe that's why he only had advisors." (if I knew you would be such a jackass about it I would have typed "Maybe that's [B]why I was told[/B] he only had advisors")
I think it's clear to anyone with decent reading comprehension that I'm not arguing his signing with an agency. I'm simply speaking on why I was under the impression that he only had advisors through the draft process... which WM has no hand in because they only do endorsments and not player contracts.[/QUOTE]
Okay, retard. Who are his advisors? William Morris? They're "AGENTS", f-tard! Signing with any Agents loses his NCAA playing rights.
You were convinced Kobe Bryant had "NO AGENTS", which you are wrong. Stop covering up your ass. You're nothing but a coward, trying to be right. But you're wrong. Admit it and move on.
In terms of "Agents". GOBB posted a link stating he did have an "AGENT" entering the draft. You're wrong on all account. Admit it and move on...
[QUOTE]No, Bird never declared for the draft....[/QUOTE]
No I wasn't talking about Larry; just talking in general.
Kind of silly to say "if the draft didn't work out how you like you can come back... but you still have to go to the NBA team that made you want to go back to college."