[QUOTE=Dash]So OBL didn't set this country off into a whirlwind of panic?
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OBL is a product of the CIA. He most likely died in 2001....a long time ago...but some reports say he died in 2004.
The War on Terror is simply made up.
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[QUOTE=Dash]So OBL didn't set this country off into a whirlwind of panic?
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OBL is a product of the CIA. He most likely died in 2001....a long time ago...but some reports say he died in 2004.
The War on Terror is simply made up.
[QUOTE=Denali]nice tapdance around the question.
but since you're so concerned with people suffering, why are you paying money to have an internet service provider that allows you to sit here on ISH when you could be in Africa feeding starving children? obviously your own greed and avarice dictates your heartless apathy to those children and your own selfish desire to sit leisurely on Teh Internetz.[/QUOTE]
lol. ^^^^^Is this guy retarded or what? Wow. I mean go ahead and be a conservative but...you gots to use yo brain homie.
Seriously...no wonder Republicans have always made it a priority to cut the budget for education in America. If more people received a good education in this country there would be very few Republicans left. ( Excluding the one percent of this country that is uber-wealthy of course)
"I'm working on an 'audit the Federal Reserve' bill." - Ron Paul
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFh6PU6qM9Q[/url]
I like it!! :rockon:
This is classic. The reason the GOP didn't get on board with the bailout was because Nancy Pelosi hurt their feelings.....I am not making this up......:lol :rolleyes:
Check this out:
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/gop-leaders-blame-innocuo_n_130310.html[/url]
So, because Pelosi said something they didn't like, the entire country is at risk.....that seems right.....:hammerhead:
"Country First" :hammerhead: :wtf:
Done deal. The theft of America continues.
Has anyone noticed that the sky has not fallen in the time Paulson and Bernake said it would? Yet 700 billion down the drain, bye bye....
Another "emergency".....don't think much, ACT!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=bagelred]Done deal. The theft of America continues.
Has anyone noticed that the sky has not fallen in the time Paulson and Bernake said it would? Yet 700 billion down the drain, bye bye....
Another "emergency".....don't think much, ACT!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Ridiculous, but you have to blame the democrats as much as the Republicans, this is pitiful.
Market went from 300 up to 100 down. Woot! Go f*cking bailout! :rolleyes:
There would be a revolution by the American people, but everyone's too busy watching American Idol or Project Runway or something.......
[QUOTE=bagelred][B]There would be a revolution by the American people, but everyone's too busy watching American Idol or Project Runway or something.......[/B][/QUOTE]
or talking on ISH....?
nice hypocrisy.
stop talking about politics. you are an embarrassment.
F*ck this. Cant believe it passed.
[QUOTE=XxNeXuSxX]Market went from 300 up to 100 down. Woot! Go f*cking bailout! :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
makes no sense... I love the confidence investors found after the bill passed.
[I]If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
... The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating.[/I] -Thomas Jefferson
[QUOTE=boozehound][I]If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
... The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating.[/I] -Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]
Yea... looks like we just signed our own death sentence.
I'm still trying to figure out why the stocks fell by 400 points after we passed the bill?
like Nex said... It was up around 250... Bill signed... down 150?
[QUOTE=mell-0]Yea... looks like we just signed our own death sentence.
I'm still trying to figure out why the stocks fell by 400 points after we passed the bill?
like Nex said... It was up around 250... Bill signed... down 150?[/QUOTE]
It was the typical "buy the rumor, sell the news" deal.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI&eurl=http://911truth.org/[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8[/url]
[QUOTE=boozehound][I]If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
... The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating.[/I] -Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]
alexander hamilton > thomas jefferson
[QUOTE=bagelred][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI&eurl=http://911truth.org/[/url]
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I just watched the first 10 minutes of this video... And I can't believe a conspiracy theorist like myself didn't realize this what the hell was really going on with all this stock market madness.
[QUOTE=mell-0]I just watched the first 10 minutes of this video... And I can't believe a conspiracy theorist like myself didn't realize this what the hell was really going on with all this stock market madness.[/QUOTE]
If I'm getting what she is saying, was that the Congress was pressured to do the bailout or they would MAKE the stock market collapse. That could be it.
But my instincts in the OP were right. This whole bailout/panic was part of the larger plan.
The NEXT thing that has to happen is to somehow stop the Presidential election. How can they let Obama win and take office? He would roll back all their plans for at least 4 or 8 years. Once Obama wins election, its too late for Bush/Cheney to declare martial law and extend his rule. We already have a president elect. Something is going to happen this month.....
I still predict a "terrorist attack" in October caused by the CIA/Military Industrial complex to try to push election to McCain. Not 9/11 big, but something substantial enough to create fear.
[URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27699761/"]Is the bail-out now officially a failure?[/URL]
[QUOTE]Treasury has so far has devoted $250 billion of the bailout money to buying equity in banks and another $40 billion to insurance giant American International Group Inc. The hope was that the infusion of news capital would enable them to increase lending, but so far that hasn't happened, lawmakers said at a hearing by the Senate Finance Committee Thursday.
[B]Instead, some of the recipients of the money have continued to pay dividends to stockholders, provide pay raises and bonuses to executives and other employees and level takeover bids at other companies. Lawmakers said they want to impose restrictions on all those activities for companies getting bailout money.[/B]
Executives from four financial institutions that have received a total of $75 billion in federal bailout funds promised at the hearing that none of the aid would be used for paying executives and employees.[/QUOTE]
Although the current recession has forced me to learn more, I am still not an expert on macroeconomics, or even close. However, I know a ****ing scam when I see one. Looks like we all got Bushed one last time, and in a big way.
:banghead:
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green][URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27699761/"]Is the bail-out now officially a failure?[/URL]
Although the current recession has forced me to learn more, I am still not an expert on macroeconomics, or even close. However, I know a ****ing scam when I see one. Looks like we all got Bushed one last time, and in a big way.[/QUOTE]
It's not only Bush's fault. Obama voted for it and the democrats are pushing to bail out automakers as well.
Seriously, quit using Bush as a scapegoat.
[QUOTE=Hawker]It's not only Bush's fault. Obama voted for it and the democrats are pushing to bail out automakers as well.
Seriously, quit using Bush as a scapegoat.[/QUOTE]
beat me to it.
[QUOTE=Hawker]It's not only Bush's fault. Obama voted for it and the democrats are pushing to bail out automakers as well.
Seriously, quit using Bush as a scapegoat.
Once again, Obama=Bush=McCain.[/QUOTE]
Obama certainly didn't help, but Bush's people are the ones that decide which companies are getting funding, so I hold his administration the most responsible. Onama and the rest of the congressmen and women that supported it get secondary blame, though I will concede that they really should have known better and doubt their innocence.
Ron Paul warned about how this will only hurt the economy and you had honest economists warning people against passing it. Big gobernment morons continue to think the government can "fix" the economy by controlling it more and spending money we don't have.
Think what that $700 billion could have gone to!
I know what I would have used it for: paying off the debt. Wait, we actually never had the money, that means we just did the exact opposite... meaning we now have to pay MORE money next year on the interest of the national debt.
Great!
I think it's either a scam, or blatant incompitence. Just read up on what AIG is doing.
It's rewarding companies and home owners for making stupid decisions. Companies were making high risk loans, and people who couldn't afford it were buying homes. I'm hearing stories of people who pay their mortgage that have neighbors that didn't, and they get benefits from this deal, and end up in a better situation than the guy who paid his bills. Where's the accountability?
[QUOTE=Hawker]It's not only Bush's fault. Obama voted for it and the democrats are pushing to bail out automakers as well.
Seriously, quit using Bush as a scapegoat.[/QUOTE]
while the passage of the bill with limited governmental oversight and control is part of the issue, it is the treasury dept that is handing the funds out. and in a manner totally unlike what they told congress they would use it for.
[QUOTE=boozehound]while the passage of the bill with limited governmental oversight and control is part of the issue, it is the treasury dept that is handing the funds out. and in a manner totally unlike what they told congress they would use it for.[/QUOTE]
It was also the treasury dept. and federal reserve and the bush admin. that pushed HARD for this package, essentially presenting a "Chicken Little" scenario to the Congress, presenting a financial "9/11" scenario that was complete BS, just like weapons of mass destruction. They should be tried and convicted for misleading Congress (as usual).
I wonder if Wall Street will throw some of that bail money in ISH's direction. Fix this bandwidth crap.
[QUOTE=boozehound]while the passage of the bill with limited governmental oversight and control is part of the issue, it is the treasury dept that is handing the funds out. and in a manner totally unlike what they told congress they would use it for.[/QUOTE]
Funny...this situation is almost carbon copy of the MSC renovation bs.
[QUOTE=bagelred]It was also the treasury dept. and federal reserve and the bush admin. that pushed HARD for this package, essentially presenting a "Chicken Little" scenario to the Congress, presenting a financial "9/11" scenario that was complete BS, just like weapons of mass destruction. They should be tried and convicted for misleading Congress (as usual).[/QUOTE]
Congress should be blamed for being naive and actually falling for bush's words. They shouldv'e learned by now.
Blame goes on the Yea votes and on Bush.
[QUOTE=XxNeXuSxX]Ron Paul warned about how this will only hurt the economy and you had honest economists warning people against passing it. Big gobernment morons continue to think the government can "fix" the economy by controlling it more and spending money we don't have.
Think what that $700 billion could have gone to!
I know what I would have used it for: paying off the debt. Wait, we actually never had the money, that means we just did the exact opposite... meaning we now have to pay MORE money next year on the interest of the national debt.
Great![/QUOTE]
I just have one small argument with this statement: Is this really the government controlling the economy? It looks to me like the government has basically taken 850 billion it didn't have and is now in the process of handing that money to a bunch of businessmen that are either dishonest or incompetent, and in many cases, both. Is that the same thing as controlling the economy? To me, it's more like giving a thousand bucks to a crackhead with the "advice" that he spend the money on food and and work clothes. Is an enabler in control of the junkie they're funding?
The Bailout was a scam. It's official. We suspected it, but now we know for sure.
Bait and Switch.
[url]http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_081113.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=bagelred]The more this whole Financial Bailout proposal has sunk in, and people have had time to think about it, some people are saying its a scam.
Doesn't it seem that way? Anything Bush and Cheney tell us is an emergency should be quickly second guessed. Doesn't the fact that Bush and Cheney are pushing this Bailout heavily cause us hesitation?
That's a Republican, BTW...
This whole situation is sketchy.....[/QUOTE]
What's greater is how I predicted the bailouts extended; expanded; and furthered under the next president.
Seems like I had all these lucky guesses for ISH:lol
Just about everything predicted in this thread happened. Sad.
[QUOTE=lilbill]Just about everything predicted in this thread happened. Sad.[/QUOTE]
im not reading the whole thing but if u summarize them i will. i doubt everything happened tho like people are yappping, without twists as usual :rolleyes:
At the very least, I believe the Bailout money that alleviated some banks from financial hardship helped avert housing problems that would've affected many more middle to low class people. Had JP Morgan or Bank of America failed to the point of liquidation, it could have gotten ugly for a lot of families living in houses with greatly diminished values and an ever-skyrocketing mortgage balance.
And from what I've read, most of the initial TARP money has been paid back to the govt.