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[quote=YAWN]its over.
obama will be our new president[/quote]
i would not be so sure... there's still a lot of time and opportunity for "swift boats." in addition, you cannot dismiss the potential for the "Bradley effect."
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[QUOTE=YAWN]its over.
obama will be our new president[/QUOTE]
a lot can still happen in 4 weeks. 4 weeks ago McCain had the lead...
[QUOTE=statman32]Obama looks bad at there. Losing the grip he had on the election as we speak.[/QUOTE]
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dude its over. it was the same old **** they have been spewing.
obama has 264 electoral votes on lock.
He just needs to win one of these states and mccain did nothing extravagant to sway independents.
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Not looking good for McCain at this point. I'd be more worried if Ayers and Wright wasn't old news. We'll see how much it affects the polls over the next 10 days.
[QUOTE=SoCalMike]i would not be so sure... there's still a lot of time and opportunity for "swift boats." in addition, you cannot dismiss the potential for the "Bradley effect."
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early response to the new attacks have been seen in a negative light for mccain. I think the fact that he was known to have opposed negative personal attacks so adamantly is coming back to bite him in the ass.
[QUOTE=SoCalMike]i would not be so sure... there's still a lot of time and opportunity for "swift boats." in addition, you cannot dismiss the potential for the "Bradley effect."
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i agree about the Bradley effect but I also wonder just how accurate these polls even are b/c they only account for land lines most of the time and there are so many people these days that only have cell phones.
[quote=kentatm]i agree about the Bradley effect but I also wonder just how accurate these polls even are b/c they only account for land lines most of the time and there are so many people these days that only have cell phones.[/quote]
im not sure i get what you mean... can you explain??? thanks!
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[QUOTE=IlliniFan]Only problem with that statement is the part about you being a smarter human being than anyone. That's laughable.[/QUOTE]
The last two elections, liberals have talked endlessly about the collective ignorance of the average American for voting George Bush twice.
They said the people who voted him into office were simply mesmerized by idealistic campaign propaganda and motivated by mob-think bandwagon mentality.
Let me ask you something. Do you think that in the four years since the last election, America's collective IQ has miraculously spiked, or the same exact thing is happening again, simply with a candidate from the other party?
[QUOTE=Denali]The last two elections, liberals have talked endlessly about the collective ignorance of the average American for voting George Bush twice.
They said the people who voted him into office were simply mesmerized by idealistic campaign propaganda and motivated by mob-think bandwagon mentality.
Let me ask you something. Do you think that in the four years since the last election, America's collective IQ has miraculously spiked, or the same exact thing is happening again, simply with a candidate from the other party?[/QUOTE]
people cant learn from their mistakes?
or perhaps they are looking at the issues at hand and choosing appropriately with what they feel is best for them and the country?
nah why would people ever vote based on those things. im sure all the traditionally red states will just vote for mccain just cause hes a good ol boy from the grand old party
[QUOTE=YAWN]people cant learn from their mistakes?
or perhaps they are looking at the issues at hand and choosing appropriately with what they feel is best for them and the country?
nah why would people ever vote based on those things. im sure all the traditionally red states will just vote for mccain just cause hes a good ol boy from the grand old party[/QUOTE]
anyone wanna take a shot at a legitimate, coherent response?
[QUOTE=SoCalMike]im not sure i get what you mean... can you explain??? thanks!
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the poll numbers they get come from literally calling people up.
there are a ton of restrictions on calling cell phones for stuff like that so almost always they ignore them.
as more and more people get rid of their land lines, its harder to get accurate numbers.
the problem is exacerbated by the fact that mostly people under 40 are the ones getting rid of the land lines.
[QUOTE=Denali]anyone wanna take a shot at a legitimate, coherent response?[/QUOTE]
sorry i forgot you were that kid starface. no sense it attempting to discuss anything with you.
[QUOTE=YAWN]sorry i forgot you were that kid starface. no sense it attempting to discuss anything with you.[/QUOTE]
yeah cause if we debate it you'll lose and you know that. ill at least give you credit for knowing that much.
"that one" :wtf: :no:
[QUOTE=Denali]yeah cause if we debate it you'll lose and you know that. ill at least give you credit for knowing that much.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
i think its funny how everyone else has also pegged you a moron, yet you change your username and attempt to act like you know **** about politics.
give it up kid.
[QUOTE=kentatm]the poll numbers they get come from literally calling people up.
there are a ton of restrictions on calling cell phones for stuff like that so almost always they ignore them.
as more and more people get rid of their land lines, its harder to get accurate numbers.
[B]the problem is exacerbated by the fact that mostly people under 40 are the ones getting rid of the land lines[/B].[/QUOTE]
if thats the case then shouldnt the numbers be even more on favor of obama? he has the youth vote after all.
[QUOTE=rezznor]if thats the case then shouldnt the numbers be even more on favor of obama? he has the youth vote after all.[/QUOTE]
perhaps but there is no real way of knowing. its not like i don't know several young McCain supporters. I live in uptown Dallas to be fair, but still.
Plus, hate to say it, but the youth vote has never been known for actually getting out and voting en mass.
Obama couldn't have done better. He's really convincing in how genuine he comes across. Thats if you aren't already extremely right sided to begin with. There is no way you can say hes a bad candidate for Prez, only in policy differences. As a person, communicator, and just educational credentials you couldn't create a better candidate.
Mccain just seems out of touch to a degree. Obama came back strong on everything he said. Mccain knew he was getting beaten in relaying to the audience and i think thats why he was so insistent on getting his turn. And when Mccain tried to knitpick Obama he did it with blatant exaggeration like in that attacking Pakistan comment. I mean anyone could see the obviousness of what Obama just said, and then what Mccain turned it into. Just really bad comeback i think. His jokes and pettyness came across as bad also.
The fact that the after polls are even close in terms of debate success just goes to show how partisan most people are, even the ones that pretend to be independent/undecided :rolleyes:
Did anyone hear McCain say the Social Security would be EASY to fix?!?!? :wtf:
That's all I got to say.....TKO Obama won.
CNN, MoE 4%:
Who did the best job in the debate?
McCain (R) 30
Obama (D) 54
Opinion of Barack Obama (before debate)
Favorable: 64 (60)
Unfavorable: 34 (38)
Opinion of John McCain (before debate)
Favorable: 51 (51)
Unfavorable: 46 (46)
[quote=kentatm]the poll numbers they get come from literally calling people up.
there are a ton of restrictions on calling cell phones for stuff like that so almost always they ignore them.
as more and more people get rid of their land lines, its harder to get accurate numbers.
the problem is exacerbated by the fact that mostly people under 40 are the ones getting rid of the land lines.[/quote]
ahh, i gotcha now.... just so you know, the polling collection process is multi-faceted these days, so its not just from landlines, as the polling organizations are trying to adjust to the newer modes of communication....
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CBS:
Who won?
McCain (R) 27
Obama (D) 39
Draw 35
Will Obama will make the right decisions on the economy?
Before debate: 54
After debate: 68
Will McCain will make the right decisions on the economy?
Before debate: 41
After debate: 49
So Hussein is the leading receiver of free cash from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Nicesh choice people.
[QUOTE=Cannonball]So Hussein is the leading receiver of free cash from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Nicesh choice people.[/QUOTE]
The election is slipping away Cannondork....slipping away.....don't cry.......
[QUOTE=bagelred]The election is slipping away Cannondork....slipping away.....don't cry.......[/QUOTE]
LOL just keep blindly following obamesiah... good sheep goood sheep.
Obama ftw!
[QUOTE=Cannonball]LOL just keep blindly following obamesiah... good sheep goood sheep.[/QUOTE]
Just keep following the crooks, liars, and hypocrites.....
[QUOTE=ShowTime LA]Obama ftw![/QUOTE]
Putin is that you?
[QUOTE=bagelred]Just keep following the crooks, liars, and hypocrites.....[/QUOTE]
oh no no you see I support McCain..
[QUOTE=Cannonball]oh no no you see I support McCain..[/QUOTE]
Do you mean "that one" ?
[QUOTE=bagelred]The election is slipping away Cannondork....slipping away.....don't cry.......[/QUOTE]
we'll see how satisfied you are when there is a democratic congress and democratic president in a time of recession who want to take away money from small businesses in the form of excess taxing, which causes further layoffs, which then causes more people to turn to the government for handouts, which causes an even larger burden on small businesses and big business, disabling them from being able to compete on the world market and further pushing us into oblivion.
why? all because the bleeding heart liberals are so desperate to see everyone have an equal amount of money. no more rich people! that's the liberal motto. they're willing to cut off their nose to spite their face. they are so sensitive and illogically determined to crusade for the underdog, that they would rather the ENTIRE COUNTRY be broke than to have a successful economy that allows some people to be rich and move into or beyond the middle class, while inevitably as in any society, some people will be poor. they'd just rather have everyone be poor so that there are no more "evil corporations" to hurt everyone's feelings.
bunch of sensitive ideologue pu[COLOR="Black"]ssi[/COLOR]es who are so fixated on making decisions with their heart that they have no ability to make them with their brains.
[QUOTE=bagelred]Do you mean "that one" ?[/QUOTE]
Straight Bad Ass
[QUOTE=Denali]we'll see how satisfied you are when there is a democratic congress and democratic president in a time of recession who want to take away money from small businesses in the form of excess taxing, which causes further layoffs, which then causes more people to turn to the government for handouts, which causes an even larger burden on small businesses and big business, disabling them from being able to compete on the world market and further pushing us into oblivion.
why? all because the bleeding heart liberals are so desperate to see everyone have an equal amount of money. no more rich people! that's the liberal motto. they're willing to cut off their nose to spite their face. they are so sensitive and illogically determined to crusade for the underdog, that they would rather the ENTIRE COUNTRY be broke than to have a successful economy that allows some people to be rich and move into or beyond the upper class, while inevitably as in any society, some people will be poor. they'd just rather have everyone be poor so that there are no more "evil corporations" to hurt everyone's feelings.
bunch of sensitive ideologue pu[COLOR="Black"]ssi[/COLOR]es who are so fixated on making decisions with their heart that they have no ability to make them with their brains.[/QUOTE]
I don't know where you get your energy.
[QUOTE=Denali]we'll see how satisfied you are when there is a democratic congress and democratic president in a time of recession who want to take away money from small businesses in the form of excess taxing, which causes further layoffs, which then causes more people to turn to the government for handouts, which causes an even larger burden on small businesses and big business, disabling them from being able to compete on the world market and further pushing us into oblivion.
why? all because the bleeding heart liberals are so desperate to see everyone have an equal amount of money. no more rich people! that's the liberal motto. they're willing to cut off their nose to spite their face. they are so sensitive and illogically determined to crusade for the underdog, that they would rather the ENTIRE COUNTRY be broke than to have a successful economy that allows some people to be rich and move into or beyond the upper class, while inevitably as in any society, some people will be poor. they'd just rather have everyone be poor so that there are no more "evil corporations" to hurt everyone's feelings.
bunch of sensitive ideologue pu[COLOR="Black"]ssi[/COLOR]es who are so fixated on making decisions with their heart that they have no ability to make them with their brains.[/QUOTE]
How's the last 8 years worked out for us?
[QUOTE=bagelred]How's the last 8 years worked out for us?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, we've been going downhill since congress got taken over by the dems.
I don't really remember too well, but during the debate I heard Obama say, "Teachers might struggle, and someone making 2x their paycheck get to live how they want.."
Right, thats the incentive to make good money.... Obama wants a socialist state. Everyone doesn't always win. What does he want to do? Take money from the person that has done well and even it out?
[QUOTE=bagelred]How's the last 8 years worked out for us?[/QUOTE]
Please state the negative impact that just one congressional policy has had on you in the last 8 years.
Were you disallowed to marry your boyfriend?
Were you denied excessive welfare and handouts?
Were you tortured for withholding terrorist information?
I mean, what? What exactly is your big gripe? Yeah it's a nice little campaign slogan that barrack hussein alqaeda has you hooked on, but exactly where have Y.O.U. felt the negative impact of the last 8 years in your day to day life? GIve me ONE example please.
[QUOTE=Kumo]Yeah, we've been going downhill since congress got taken over by the dems.
I don't really remember too well, but during the debate I heard Obama say, "Teachers might struggle, and someone making 2x their paycheck get to live how they want.."
Right, thats the incentive to make good money.... Obama wants a socialist state. Everyone doesn't always win. [B]What does he want to do? Take money from the person that has done well and even it out?[/B][/QUOTE]
Yesir
Why work 8 hours a day when I can just chill at home and you can hook me up with those evil rich peoples money!!! Better order some new 360 games.
[QUOTE=Denali]Please state the negative impact that just one congressional policy has had on you in the last 8 years.
Were you disallowed to marry your boyfriend?
Were you denied excessive welfare and handouts?
Were you tortured for withholding terrorist information?
I mean, what? What exactly is your big gripe? Yeah it's a nice little campaign slogan that barrack hussein alqaeda has you hooked on, but exactly where have Y.O.U. felt the negative impact of the last 8 years in your day to day life? GIve me ONE example please.[/QUOTE]
Get ready for a one line sarcastic answer.
[QUOTE=Denali]Please state the negative impact that just one congressional policy has had on you in the last 8 years.
Were you disallowed to marry your boyfriend?
Were you denied excessive welfare and handouts?
Were you tortured for withholding terrorist information?
[B]I mean, what? What exactly is your big gripe? Yeah it's a nice little campaign slogan that barrack hussein alqaeda has you hooked on, but exactly where have Y.O.U. felt the negative impact of the last 8 years in your day to day life? GIve me ONE example please.[/B][/QUOTE]
My stocks-WOuld have happened quicker with Kerry
Gas prices-don't think kerry would have handled this better
uhh That's about it.