[QUOTE=JJ81]Idiot.[/QUOTE]
strong angst.
take a few breaths, get a hug, find your happy place.
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[QUOTE=JJ81]Idiot.[/QUOTE]
strong angst.
take a few breaths, get a hug, find your happy place.
[QUOTE=Biddy77]strong angst.
take a few breaths, get a hug, find your happy place.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
i needed this thing on ISH have gotten to serious, the gimmicks are getting funny but actually not being gimmicks anymore.
Wheres J money when you need him,.
[QUOTE=lilojmayo]:roll: :roll: :roll:
i needed this thing on ISH have gotten to serious, the gimmicks are getting funny but actually not being gimmicks anymore.
Wheres J money when you need him,.[/QUOTE]
common occurance on internet forums. while they can be a great place for people to share information, opinions, discussion, etc... some people develop unhealthy emotional investments in their online personas.
that usually turns into people equating differing opinions with challenges to their manhood, and that turns into an avalanche of butt-hurt.
can someone photoshop a visual representation of an avalanche of butt-hurt? that would be a big win, i think.
[QUOTE=andgar923]I don't care about totals as much as I care about percentages.
I saw some people post what seems to be a legit percentage on behalf of Kobe. But does anybody have an MJ percentage from a trusted source?
I mean.... lets suppose Kobe does have more.
What's the point if he had 30 more opportunities than MJ?[/QUOTE]
exactly..that's why we know Kobe's conversion rate. I know for sure it's very low lol
[QUOTE=lilojmayo]Carmelo Anthony will Break Kobe's game winning record, easily IMO.
Melo already has like 8 or so.
Kobe is averaging 2 game winners a year the same with MJ.
Melo is just 24 years old, and could play at a high level until he pretty much wants to since he has fundamentals down.
I c Melo Breaking Kobe's record when it's all said and done.[/QUOTE]
TRavis Outlaw has like 6-10 IMO from what I've seen from last season and this season.
[QUOTE]TRavis Outlaw has like 6-10 IMO from what I've seen from last season and this season.[/QUOTE]
These numbers depend on the meaning you give to a "game winning shot".
Having already defined my criteria, I have compiled some lists with the game-winners of the last 3 seasons. According to these lists, the only players per year to have more than 1 game-winning basket are:
[B]2007:[/B]
Arenas: 4
Eddy Curry: 3
Varejao: 2
Dalonte West: 2
Garnett: 2
Kevin Martin: 2
Bulter: 2
Bosh: 2
Posey: 2
Z.Randolph: 2
Steven Jackson: 2
Hinrich: 2
[B]2008:[/B]
Ginobili: 4
LeBron: 3
Turkoglu: 3
Ray Allen: 2
Tr.Outlaw: 2
Gomes: 2
Kevin Martin: 2
Chris Paul: 2
Prince: 2 (1 in the playoffs)
[B]2009 (updated list):[/B]
Iverson: 2
Granger: 2
Carter: 2
Ras.Lewis: 2
If somebody thinks I missed someone [B]and can prove so[/B], I'll hear.
[QUOTE=Psileas]These numbers depend on the meaning you give to a "game winning shot".
Having already defined my criteria, I have compiled some lists with the game-winners of the last 3 seasons. According to these lists, the only players per year to have more than 1 game-winning basket are:
[B]2007:[/B]
Arenas: 4
Eddy Curry: 3
Varejao: 2
Dalonte West: 2
Garnett: 2
Kevin Martin: 2
Bulter: 2
Bosh: 2
Posey: 2
Z.Randolph: 2
Steven Jackson: 2
Hinrich: 2
[B]2008:[/B]
Ginobili: 4
LeBron: 3
Turkoglu: 3
Ray Allen: 2
Tr.Outlaw: 2
Gomes: 2
Kevin Martin: 2
Chris Paul: 2
Prince: 2 (1 in the playoffs)
[B]2009 (updated list):[/B]
Iverson: 2
Granger: 2
Carter: 2
Ras.Lewis: 2
If somebody thinks I missed someone [B]and can prove so[/B], I'll hear.[/QUOTE]
Travis Outlaw from this season
[b]Travis Outlaw made a fade away jumper with 8.9 seconds to go and lift the Trail Blazers to victory over The Pistons 84-83.[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWK8Y9er8CA[/url]
brandon roy vs rockets this season?
RoseCity calm down. Roy isn't even close to hitting as many game winning shots at Jordan or Ko-me. Let's talk in 10 years.
[QUOTE=glidedrxlr22]RoseCity calm down. Roy isn't even close to hitting as many game winning shots at Jordan or Ko-me. Let's talk in 10 years.[/QUOTE]
i hope that wasn't a mistaken assumption that i'm an alt account of RoseCity. that's not the case.
i pointed out the one he had because it wasn't on the list that was just posted from the last 3 seasons. honestly, it's the only actual game-winner i can recall him having.
[QUOTE=Biddy77]i hope that wasn't a mistaken assumption that i'm an alt account of RoseCity. that's not the case.
i pointed out the one he had because it wasn't on the list that was just posted from the last 3 seasons. honestly, it's the only actual game-winner i can recall him having.[/QUOTE]
I really meant RoseCity.
[QUOTE=glidedrxlr22]I really meant RoseCity.[/QUOTE]
gotcha. thanks for clarification.
Updated and Confirmed over other list posted for Kobe, 8 of the shots on first list do not match criteria for a game winning shot
Game Winning Shot Opportunity = 24 seconds or less left in the game, team with the ball is either tied or down by 1 to 2 points.
Kobe Bryant
12/27/99: Lakers 108 - Mavericks 106 (Game-winning FTs with 8.6 seconds left)
02/13/00: Lakers 113 - Nets 110 (OT, Lay-up and 1 with 4.8 Seconds)
05/10/00: Lakers 97 - Phoenix 96 (Jumper with 5.6 seconds left)
11/16/00: Lakers 112 - Kings 110 (OT Jumper with 2.5 seconds left)
02/07/01: Lakers 85 - Phoenix 83 (Jumper with 2.7 sec)
01/02/02: Lakers 87 - Nuggets 86 (Buzzer beater)
02/22/02: Lakers 96 - Hornets 94 (Buzzer-beater jumper)
05/12/02: Lakers 87 - Spurs 85 (Lay-up with 5.1 seconds left)
12/06/02: Lakers 105 - Mavericks 103 (27-point 4th Quarter comeback, jumper with 8.4 seconds left)
04/04/03: Lakers 102 - Grizzlies 101 (Buzzer beater jumper)
04/14/04: Lakers 105 - Blazers 104 (OT 3-pt buzzer beater)
03/12/05: Lakers 117 - Bobcats 116 (Jumper 1 second left)
11/02/05: Lakers 99 - Nuggets 97 (OT jumper 1 second)
12/04/05: Lakers 99 - Bobcats 98 (FTs with 11 seconds left)
01/12/06: Lakers 99 - Cavaliers 98 (Jumper with 8 sec)
04/30/06: Lakers 99 - Suns 98 (OT buzzer beating jumper)
01/14/08: Lakers 123 - Sonics 121 (OT jumper with 4.3 seconds left)
01/09/09: Lakers 121 - Pacers 119 (Jumper with 3 sec)
wouldn't the thread have more cred , of how many game winning shots missed :confusedshrug:
jordan was out for his second season and was retired for another one.
Lebron will surpass everyone when it's all said and done.
[QUOTE=Twenty Three]Lebron will surpass everyone when it's all said and done.[/QUOTE]
Holy Sh!t Lebron's already played 426 games! And he's playing at a clip of almost 41 mins/game. That's almost half of Allen Iverson's [I]career[/I] (he's played 863).
For comparison's sake, Larry Bird played 897 games [B]total[/B].
Magic only played 906 games.
That's gotta be some kind of record for a 24 year old.
[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Holy Sh!t Lebron's already played 426 games! And he's playing at a clip of almost 41 mins/game. That's almost half of Allen Iverson's [I]career[/I] (he's played 863).
For comparison's sake, Larry Bird played 897 games [B]total[/B].
Magic only played 906 games.
That's gotta be some kind of record for a 24 year old.[/QUOTE]
Now at 427 games.
By comparison, MJ didn't play his 427th game until the last game of the 89-90 season.
[QUOTE=Twenty Three]Lebron will surpass everyone when it's all said and done.[/QUOTE]
I dont recall LeBron ever winning the game with a mid-range shot/3pointer.
Just driving and shooting runners or lay ins
[QUOTE=JJ81][B]I dont recall LeBron ever winning the game with a mid-range shot/3pointer.[/B]
Just driving and shooting runners or lay ins[/QUOTE]
He doesn't have to right now. That's the point. Why should he go out of his way to shoot a more difficult mid-range/3 point shot when no one can stop the easier drivers and runners?
[QUOTE=JJ81]I dont recall LeBron ever winning the game [b]with a mid-range shot/3pointer.[/b]
he's made clutch-go head-game winning jumpers with 24-30 secs left in the game plenty of times. A few I found real quick..
[/QUOTE]
[b]Lebron James 41 Ponits @ Lakers[/b] (midrange game winning shot at the end)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4y8kIBYllM[/url]
[b]Lebron James Clutch Buzzer Beater Three Pointer For Overtime[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcPEPbM1h9c[/url]
[b]LeBron James LeBron James scores a 16-foot jumper with 23 seconds left in game 3 to give Cleveland the win.NBA Playoffs 2007 / Eastern Conference Finals / Game 3 / Pistons@Cavaliers[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-2Jzn1uA0&feature=related[/url]
[QUOTE=Diesel J][b]Lebron James 41 Ponits @ Lakers[/b] (midrange game winning shot at the end)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4y8kIBYllM[/url]
[b]Lebron James Clutch Buzzer Beater Three Pointer For Overtime[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcPEPbM1h9c[/url]
[b]LeBron James LeBron James scores a 16-foot jumper with 23 seconds left in game 3 to give Cleveland the win.NBA Playoffs 2007 / Eastern Conference Finals / Game 3 / Pistons@Cavaliers[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-2Jzn1uA0&feature=related[/url][/QUOTE]
i like how in a thread about jordan and kobe, there ends up being more talk about other athletes.. why dont you just make a new thread so then i could totally skip over the lebron and roy preaching.
^^My post was a response to the guy above