[QUOTE=rawimpact]That's tough defense bynum :applause:
But we are in a weak era. And when i say weak, i mean physically.[/QUOTE]
yea pau gasols are runnin up and down the floor... i can agree
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[QUOTE=rawimpact]That's tough defense bynum :applause:
But we are in a weak era. And when i say weak, i mean physically.[/QUOTE]
yea pau gasols are runnin up and down the floor... i can agree
my perspective may be slightly different...
firstly, it is a shame that wallace is hurt. i really do hope he gets better soon. the cats played an awesome game and deserved to win.
that being said, it was clear that bynum intended to foul him. however, i clearly do not believe that he meant to injure or harm him. i think it was a combination of inexperience on bynum's part and also body control. he clearly had no intention to harm wallace... it was a borderline flagrant 1 and i don't think he will be suspended.
if you turned the clock back to the 80's, this foul was equivalent to a kiss on the cheek....
:pimp:
wow ouch. hope he has a speedy recovery.
[QUOTE=AJ2k8]Found Footage of it.
[url]http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0q2cBYKvYJw[/url]
Definitely went for the man but to say he intended to injure him is[B] ludacris[/B].[/QUOTE]
:roll: lay off the rap music and open a dictionary
I looked at the foul on youtube seen here...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q2cBYKvYJw[/url]
...to me it was a flagrant foul and Bynum didn't mean to hurt him, but it was a stupid foul the way he did it. You don't stick your elbow out in front of someone like that. To me it was unintentional, but he just fouled him the wrong way.
Man f*uck Bynum. What kind of sh!t was that? I was indifferent on my opinion about him, but now I don't like him at all.
Yeah everyone, let's start trying to stop players with our elbows and not our hands when they are driving in. :rolleyes: That's what happens when you do that.
And Kobe24 is one of the most stupid posters on ISH, this confirms it.
[QUOTE=AJ2k8]I understand that he injured the guy but it's a first offense and he in no way attempted to injure the guy so why is everyone hating on him so much?
Shaq didn't get this much hate when he clotheslined Stuckey and he acted as though he did nothing wrong at the time.
[url]http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=GjnMdNm-Imk[/url]
Put yourself in the Big mens shoes..Your job is to guard the paint, someone comes running in expecting an easy bucket, you wanna defend and make sure no one thinks about driving again so you go hard at the guy who happens to be alot lighter and they end up on the floor.
All i'm saying is to look at this from both sides.
and don't hate on him because of how much some people hype him:violin:[/QUOTE]
Difference is, Shaq went for the ball. Bynum just slid over and checked wallace mid flight with NO intention for the ball. I'm not saying he did it intentionally, but come on... don't be stupid, go for the ball and not the body (especially when the player is in the air).
Meh, it looks clumsy more than anything.
wow bynum you ****in retard
next time they play with wallace healthy a poster be comin'
Imagine if someone like Diop had done the same thing to Kobe. He would've been ejected immediately and Stern would be looking to make an example out of him today.
the play certainly warranted a flagrant foul, but i don't think bynum was intending to hurt him like that. he didn't make a play on the ball so a flagrant 1 is the right call, but it didn't look like a flagrant 2 to me.
any update on how gerald is doing?
What a bunch of classless Laker fans in this thread. Really, guys, are you serious with some of these comments?
he didnt try to hurt him but he must be retarded because usually elbowing someone in the chest can cause problems....
I saw the play in which this happened. It really was not Bynum's fault. It really was not anybody's fault. That is just basketball. Wallace drove hard and banged into Bynum pretty hard and he got hurt. It was nobody's fault. It was just basketball.
I hope he will be alright though. A collapsed lung is pretty serious.
hope he is better, it was a cheap shot, but cmon suspension? it was a tie game and he wanted to make sure, it was bad because gwall was going for a dunk and had nothing to protect his ribs
[QUOTE=JustinJDW]I saw the play in which this happened. It really was not Bynum's fault. It really was not anybody's fault. That is just basketball. Wallace drove hard and banged into Bynum pretty hard and he got hurt. It was nobody's fault. It was just basketball.
I hope he will be alright though. A collapsed lung is pretty serious.[/QUOTE]
if gerald drove into bynum and bynum did nothing his elbow would of gave and no serious injury would of happened. instead bynum drove his elbow into the side of gerald. Bynum is now in my eyes a classless scrub
[quote=StroShow4]
any update on how gerald is doing?[/quote]
Latest I could find:
[QUOTE]
[B]Bobcats' Wallace has collapsed lung, broken rib[/B]
By Rick Bonnell
[email]rbonnell@charlotteobserver.com[/email]
Posted: Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2009
LOS ANGELES - Charlotte Bobcats forward Gerald Wallace suffered a collapsed left lung and a broken rib in a collision with Los Angeles Lakers center Andrew Bynum in the Bobcats' 117-110 double-overtime victory Wednesday night.
According to the team, Wallace lost 30-40 percent of the capacity in his left lung. He also suffered a non-displaced fracture of the fifth rib on his left side.
Doctors at Centinela Hospital inserted a tube in Wallace's lung to help restore functional capacity. Wallace will spend at least Wednesday night in the hospital. Doctors do not anticipate releasing him before late Thursday. At that time, the Bobcats will be better prepared to decide whether Wallace would join the team on its current West Coast trip or return directly to Charlotte.
Bynum was called for a Flagrant 1 foul on the play in which Wallace was driving the lane in the fourth quarter. Bynum threw a hip-check and struck Wallace's rib cage with his right elbow.
The Bobcats will play the Trailblazers tonight in Portland. It was unclear who coach Larry Brown would start in Wallace's place.
[/QUOTE]
It was a good call by the refs.
One of the very few good calls all night.
While I was pleased to finally see Bynum (or any Laker for that matter) lay a HARD foul, no one wants to see a kid injured.
Hopefully he will be OK.
This is ridiculous...
First Bynum clothlines LeBron and nor he throws his elbow into Gerald's rib cage...
What is Stern thinking?
due you bunch of wussies even know what a lung collapse is?
already crying....for no reason......
It was a stupid foul, like I said right after Bynum was called for it. A flagrant foul was the right call, anyone who thinks that deserves a suspension is beyond stupid. The amount of people overreacting in this thread is hysterical considering non of them are Bobcats fans and didn't even watch the game :oldlol:
Anyway the important thing is that Wallace will be fine.
Does anybody have a link to the video of Bynum fouling Wallace? I've heard it was a dirty foul but i'd like to see it before judging...
[QUOTE=-Lincolnite-]Does anybody have a link to the video of Bynum fouling Wallace? I've heard it was a dirty foul but i'd like to see it before judging...[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q2cBYKvYJw[/url]
This was dirty. he drove his elbow right into the chest...
[QUOTE=5150][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q2cBYKvYJw[/url]
This was dirty. he drove his elbow right into the chest...[/QUOTE]
You guys are seriously stupid as hell. Initially, Bynum wanted to block the shot or strip the ball. Wallace ELEVATED which Bynum didn't know that he was going to do that and it struck Wallace in the rib area. Bynum wasn't even looking at G-wall's rib area. Bynum just stuck his arm out. Suspension worthy? Not at all.
[QUOTE=Kobe24]You guys are seriously stupid as hell. Initially, [B][SIZE="3"]Bynum wanted to block the shot or strip the ball.[/SIZE][/B] Wallace ELEVATED which Bynum didn't know that he was going to do that and it struck Wallace in the rib area. Bynum wasn't even looking at G-wall's rib area. Bynum just stuck his arm out. Suspension worthy? Not at all.[/QUOTE]
I didn't realize you block/rip the ball with your elbow. :rolleyes:
Announcers got it right. "Andrew was not playing the ball at all."
[quote=Allstar24]It was a stupid foul, like I said right after Bynum was called for it. A flagrant foul was the right call, anyone who thinks that deserves a suspension is beyond stupid. The amount of people overreacting in this thread is hysterical considering [B]non of them are[/B] [B]Bobcats fans and didn't even watch the game[/B] :oldlol:
Anyway the important thing is that Wallace will be fine.[/quote]
I'm a Bobcats fan and I watched the game. Gerald's gonna be in the hospital for at least 48 hrs.
[QUOTE=glidedrxlr22]
What a douche move by Bynum. His arrogance smirks at the refs and now this cheap shot make me not respect him much as a person. Hope someone hard fouls him without the intention to injure.[/QUOTE]
GTFO, it wasn't even intentional. you're just mad that Bynum >>>>>> Oden
[QUOTE=Godfather]I didn't realize you block/rip the ball with your elbow. :rolleyes:
Announcers got it right. "Andrew was not playing the ball at all."[/QUOTE]
yes, which is why it was an offensive foul.
[QUOTE=5150][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q2cBYKvYJw[/url]
This was dirty. he drove his elbow right into the chest...[/QUOTE]
I agree. I watched this play and it definitely looked dirty. However, Bynum has never been considered a dirty player and I don't think he meant to hurt Gerald. This is his first incident so i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully Gerald will be fine and recover quickly.
[QUOTE=Kobe24]You guys are seriously stupid as hell. Initially, Bynum wanted to block the shot or strip the ball. Wallace ELEVATED which Bynum didn't know that he was going to do that and it struck Wallace in the rib area. Bynum wasn't even looking at G-wall's rib area. Bynum just stuck his arm out. Suspension worthy? Not at all.[/QUOTE]
Shut the **** up. Seriously.
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]yes, which is why it was an offensive foul.[/QUOTE]
Offensive foul?
That was a flagrant 1 on Bynum bro...
The league needs to consider a suspension on this one. It was obviously not intended to hurt him this bad, but it also wasn't intended to get to the ball so I think a two - five game suspension is in order.
[QUOTE=Kobe24]Cheap shot? That was great defense. He put out a hard foul. It wasn't flagrant worthy either. Ball doesn't lie.[/QUOTE]
Reason why Laker fans have no friends.
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]yes, which is why it was an offensive foul.[/QUOTE]
So you can draw offensive fouls by throwing your elbow into somebody? Never heard that rule.
You know whose fault this actually?
Kobe Bryants.
His lame ass got ****ing blown by, had he been able to stick by Wallace; this wouldnt have happened.
But this is nothing new.
:)
[QUOTE=rufuspaul]I'm a Bobcats fan and I watched the game. Gerald's gonna be in the hospital for at least 48 hrs.[/QUOTE]
Okay you're allowed to vent and curse Bynum out. Everyone else should just shut the hell up.
And I do hope its nothing serious with Gerald, that was a very unfortunate situation and stupid foul by Bynum.
i dont believe bynum intended for g-force to get hurt. it was a freak play. suspensions should be warranted on intention but should also be warranted on stupid plays. plays like these couldve been avoided and bynum just did a careless foul without thinking of the consequences. that should be a suspension as well.
its the same when you get drink and drive, you dont intend to hurt anyone but when you do hurt sometone because of a crash, you should be punished to the full extent of the law.
Laker fans who are saying that Bynum did nothing wrong are obviously delusional.
To me it looks as though Bynum meant to foul Wallace, but out of inexperience/clumsiness fouled much harder than he needed to. Nothing more than a hard foul that went wrong.
And stop hating on Bynum, seriously. If this kid injures player ___ intentionally tomorrow then I can understand. But a lot of people on ISH are determined to hate him and this is not a valid reason. He's never been called a dirty player before, and he shouldn't after ONE[U][SIZE="4"][/SIZE][/U] stupid foul.
Hopefully Gerald is okay. <---- This is what people should be talking about..
[QUOTE=Kobe24]You guys are seriously stupid as hell. Initially, Bynum wanted to block the shot or strip the ball. Wallace ELEVATED which Bynum didn't know that he was going to do that and it struck Wallace in the rib area. Bynum wasn't even looking at G-wall's rib area. Bynum just stuck his arm out. Suspension worthy? Not at all.[/QUOTE]
So whose male sexual reproductive organ is bigger?
Kobes or Bynums?
[QUOTE=aznboy2k2]Reason why Laker fans have no friends.[/QUOTE]
Internet friends? How pathetic and sad are you?