Well, 2009 won't be the spurs, Maybe 2010 will be the first even Spurs title.
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Well, 2009 won't be the spurs, Maybe 2010 will be the first even Spurs title.
[QUOTE=ihatetimthomas]When they won their last few titles, Manu was a very integral piece to the puzzle and they likely would not have won any of those without him. I still think they will keep things competitive, but in the end they just wont have enough[/QUOTE]
don't get me wrong, i understand the importance of manu ginobili, notice i labeled him as part of the big 3. but people have gone as far as labeling ginobili as the 2nd best SG in the NBA and he is far from it. Spurs are built around defense and smart players. with the core of duncan and parker, spurs will still have a chance at the ring. guys like mason and especially the veteran players on the roster has to step it up... the regular season performances will not be acceptable come playoff time... again i believe their chances are slim but i would not count them out.
[QUOTE=Jordandunk23]don't get me wrong, i understand the importance of manu ginobili, notice i labeled him as part of the big 3. but people have gone as far as labeling ginobili as the 2nd best SG in the NBA and he is far from it. Spurs are built around defense and smart players. with the core of duncan and parker, spurs will still have a chance at the ring. guys like mason and especially the veteran players on the roster has to step it up... the regular season performances will not be acceptable come playoff time... again i believe their chances are slim but i would not count them out.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, Mason is not anything like Manu. Sure he has range, but Manu has range, ball handling, and can finish in the paint. He also has a ton of experience which is unmeasurable. I know you understand Manu's importance, but I do think you are underrating his impact here a bit.
Because they are a solidly built team, they will keep it competitive, but I really dont think they can take out the Lakers or C's and Cavs w/o Manu. The thing is Manu really creates havoc for the defense of opposing teams and really opens the lanes for TD and Parker. But even a Manu-less Spurs squad is still a handful for any team, just gonna be hard in those game 6 and 7's w/o him
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I really don't think this changes the WC playoff picture all that much, to be honest. The Spurs were going to win a maximum of one playoff series, imho.
Still... It is never good for the NBA when a star player gets knocked out for the season.[/QUOTE]
agreed...the only team I was/am worried about is NOH...
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I really don't think this changes the WC playoff picture all that much, to be honest. The Spurs were going to win a maximum of one playoff series, imho.
.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol:
Its obvious you have little respect for the Spurs' 4 championships. They were a lock for WCF or Finals appearance with Manu. Seriously.. take a history lesson on Spurs Basketball, kid.
[QUOTE=Younggrease]agreed...the only team I was/am worried about is NOH...[/QUOTE]
you mean the team the spurs beat last year in the playoffs?
[QUOTE=spursdynasty420]you mean the team the spurs beat last year in the playoffs?[/QUOTE]
yes...thats the team I mean. I was very happy when SAS beat them last year
I know the Spurs play their best ball in the playoffs, but I think they're done. I predict they'll be out in the first round. Manu is their heart and soudl.
The Hornet's would be a favorable match up, but I don't see them beating Portland, even though Portland's roster has no playoff experience. I think Portland's youth, and athleticism would give the Spurs a lot of trouble.
I guess my Spurs/Orlando prediction is out the window.
Utah/Orlando final!! ;)
Damn this really ****ing sucks. :(
Alright Tony Parker. It's time to prove why you were give a Finals MVP. As for everybody else, they better step up. Roger Mason, Drew Gooden, Bruce Bowen, Ime Udoka, its time to step up.
I really don't like how people are saying they will be elimnated in the First Round or even Second Round. Come on guys, the Spurs played without Manu for damn near half the Season, and they kept that Second Seed the whole time with Teams like the Nuggets and Rockets right on their heels. Pop is way too good a Coach and the Spurs have way too much talent and experience to just crumble down because of an injury. Do I think we will win a Championship? No. Do I think we will be eliminated in the First Round? Hell No! Who the hell is going to eliminate us? The Rockets? The Mavs? The struggling Hornets? Psh please. The Lakers are the only Team that can really face us head on and eliminate us.
With all this said, I have faith in my Spurs. This is my Team and I am going to support them all the way. Go Spurs Go!
I doubt Spurs even get to the conference finals now.....Lakers should win the west without any problem really.
[QUOTE=All Net]I doubt Spurs even get to the conference finals now.....Lakers should win the west without any problem really.[/QUOTE]
When's the last time these Lakers did anything without a problem?:roll:
[QUOTE=KenneBell]When's the last time these Lakers did anything without a problem?:roll:[/QUOTE]
Win the west?:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=ihatetimthomas]The thing is, Mason is not anything like Manu. Sure he has range, but Manu has range, ball handling, and can finish in the paint. He also has a ton of experience which is unmeasurable. I know you understand Manu's importance, but I do think you are underrating his impact here a bit.
Because they are a solidly built team, they will keep it competitive, but I really dont think they can take out the Lakers or C's and Cavs w/o Manu. The thing is Manu really creates havoc for the defense of opposing teams and really opens the lanes for TD and Parker. But even a Manu-less Spurs squad is still a handful for any team, just gonna be hard in those game 6 and 7's w/o him[/QUOTE]
i guess we'll just have to see... the spurs currently as they are, i wouldn't be comfortable putting my money to be champions BUT, i do believe they are phenomenal team that can heat things up... guess we'll just have to wait and see...
Tough news.
I bet the Spurs are loving the fact that Ginobili played all summer for his Country.
I wouldn't pay my players to play International ball, period. The NBA Championship is all that matters. If they want to play for their country for free, then they can play for their NBA team for free as well.
Why would they announce it now? Why not just say that he might come back sometime in the playoff so teams have to prepare defensive plays for him?
Or is this just a decoy and he will actually come back in the playoff? :banana:
[QUOTE=iTruWarrior]Phil has been outcoaching Rick since Day 1 of his coaching job. [/QUOTE]
He sure didn't in the 2002 WCF.
[QUOTE=All Net]I doubt Spurs even get to the conference finals now.....Lhttp://www.insidehoops.com/forum/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=2867358akers should win the west without any problem really.[/QUOTE]
While I think the Spurs chances are definitely hampered a bit with Manu's injury, the Lakers will get knocked out early. Oh they'll win their first round match up all right but will lose in either the second round or conference finals. The Spurs are still led by two former Finals MVPs(one of which is having an amazing season) and I think the Nuggets will pose a serious threat as well as a few other teams. The Nuggets are also led by a former Finals MVP, something Kobe will likely never get.
People really don't want to see the Lakers win this season do they?
Now if we can have Kobe out of the season, that would be good.
This news pains me. Injuries in professional sport is the most frustrating thing to a fan ever. All real fans want to see the highest quality of play possible, its pathetic to think some people are glad this happened because it gives their team a better chance to win (im primarily a utah/lakers/phoenix fan as well). When healthy, manu ginobli is the best at [B]shifting a games momentum in the league[/B]. While kobe, wade and lebron may be the best at handling games themselves, but teams are left answerless when manu comes off the bench and drops dagger 3's, does his drive and draw an and1. I really hope mason can keep the spurs highly competitive, hes shown he can bomb some clutch 3s himself :)
[QUOTE=KenneBell]People really don't want to see the Lakers win this season do they?[/QUOTE]
Nope, but unfortunately everyone who doesnt want it to happen is going to have to grow to like it because they're at LEAST making it to the finals again.
With the exception of major injury, or a total meltdown, the Lakers are head and shoulders better than every team in the western conference, and none of them are capable of beating a Lakers team in a 7 game series. It just isnt happening.
Spurs are going to be eliminated in the First Round of the playoffs, and this is probably the end of an Era.
Duncan suck major @ss in the last 2 weeks, and Parker already took over as the best player on his team.
Nobody's stopping the Lakers out west now.
Spurs will make it out of the first round, but after that, it's a major question mark.
[QUOTE=raptorfan_dr07]While I think the Spurs chances are definitely hampered a bit with Manu's injury, the Lakers will get knocked out early. Oh they'll win their first round match up all right but will lose in either the second round or conference finals. The Spurs are still led by two former Finals MVPs(one of which is having an amazing season) and I think the Nuggets will pose a serious threat as well as a few other teams. The Nuggets are also led by a former Finals MVP, something Kobe will likely never get.[/QUOTE]
Please, with Bynum and Ariza back there should be nobody who can even get them a good enough challenge in the west. Lakers coasted through the west last year without Bynum and Ariza..with them back it would take a complete meltdown for anybody else to be able to beat them.
Man, that sucks for the Spurs. Didn't they have an opportunity to trade for VC at the trading deadline? In light of the circumstances they probably should've pulled the trigger on that deal
[QUOTE=BIG FURB]Man, that sucks for the Spurs. Didn't they have an opportunity to trade for VC at the trading deadline? In light of the circumstances they probably should've pulled the trigger on that deal[/QUOTE]
Aren't you forgetting the Drew Gooden Blockbuster Acquisition? :D
Well, it looks like the Spurs great run is coming to an end. The injuries are starting to pile up on them. Mano is older than I thought. He and Duncan are both approaching the mid 30's.
[QUOTE=iTruWarrior]Yes, he did a great job defending Kobe. [B]Just look at his averages in last year's playoffs.[/B]
35+ PPG, Just because you love the Nuggets doesn't mean you have to be delusional and say J.R Smith shut him down.
This season
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281101007[/url]
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281121013[/url][/QUOTE]
i like how u again bring up last year like it matters. you are so reatrded, how many times do i have to say that last year is not this year. And i like how u decided to just ignore the game in which the nuggs beat the lakers, cuz that was the last time they played the Lakers. And i NEVER said that JR shut down kobe, u are just putting words in my mouth. i just said that i HEARD that JR did a good job defending him. I dnt have the boxscore, n i dnt feel like looking it up, all im sayin is that i heard he did a good job defending kobe, thats all.
There goes the Spurs championship hopes, oh well.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Spurs are going to be eliminated in the First Round of the playoffs, and this is probably the end of an Era.
Duncan suck major @ss in the last 2 weeks, and Parker already took over as the best player on his team.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
Why do you hate the Spurs so much? Just because we swept you? Dont be mad, kid. We've taken out damn near every team in the last 10 years. Youre just another name on the list.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I really don't think this changes the WC playoff picture all that much, to be honest. The Spurs were going to win a maximum of one playoff series, imho.
.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol:
Its obvious you have little respect for the Spurs' 4 championships. They were a lock for WCF or Finals appearance with Manu. Seriously.. take a history lesson on Spurs Basketball, kid.
*posted this again .. show yourself, RedBlack.
[QUOTE=shortlunatic]i like how u again bring up last year like it matters. you are so reatrded, how many times do i have to say that last year is not this year. And i like how u decided to just ignore the game in which the nuggs beat the lakers, cuz that was the last time they played the Lakers. And i NEVER said that JR shut down kobe, u are just putting words in my mouth. i just said that i HEARD that JR did a good job defending him. I dnt have the boxscore, n i dnt feel like looking it up, all im sayin is that i heard he did a good job defending kobe, thats all.[/QUOTE]
I just showed you it.... You fail. J.r Smith shutting down Kobe is just like asking Howard to shut down Yao.
Let's not rewrite the script for this year and make it sound like with Manu the spurs were a lock for the title. Healthy Manu was not young Manu and Duncan was banged up too. Saying the spurs had a chance to beat the Lakers if everyone was healthy is fair, but as the years go on that is becoming such a big IF that it's not even fair to speculate about it, it's almost a given that when playoff time rolls around, someone will be hurt, most likely Manu.