Ricky Rubio just said that he wont go to the nba if grizziles draft him

[QUOTE=STelfair31]Rubio is garbage I'm telling everyone on this board that now.. mark my words.[/QUOTE]
Coming from a poster with Sebastian Telfair as username, that means nothing.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Who the **** is Ricky Rubio?

18, never played a day of NBA ball in your life, and your trying to call the shots? I don't understand why stuff like this doesn't hurt a players stock. Only in the NBA...[/QUOTE]

Same way I feel. He outta be lucky someone wants his punk ass. He don't like it he can keep his punk ass in Spain. He probably ain't gone live up to the hype anyway.

[QUOTE=STelfair31]Rubio is garbage I'm telling everyone on this board that now.. mark my words.[/QUOTE]
Hes going to be very good, at worst case scenario if he doesnt become the star player that people expect he should be a solid starting PG and a very good defensive PG.

He'll be a rich mans version of hinrich. both have extremly good defensive prowess and have excellent hands on defense.

[QUOTE=ronnymac]He'll be a rich mans version of hinrich. both have extremly good defensive prowess and have excellent hands on defense.[/QUOTE]


they both will be all-stars. being sarcastic. As far as a username, that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. :wtf:


Final thing, just saying, He will not be anything special.

[QUOTE=idizzle]Same way I feel. He outta be lucky someone wants his punk ass. He don't like it he can keep his punk ass in Spain. He probably ain't gone live up to the hype anyway.[/QUOTE]

Agree:applause:

[QUOTE=STelfair31]Rubio is garbage I'm telling everyone on this board that now.. mark my words.[/QUOTE]

Rubio is garbage!! Seems like such a spoiled brat. He signed a contract to play in Spain so he should stay there and finish out his contract. Either he doesn't like his current situation or doesn't want to play their anymore (i.e. he wants to play for the NBA now).

So now he's going to have to pay a bunch of money for the next few years to come to the NBA. And get this, he's already demanding they he doesn't play for certain teams.

So what if he gets on a team here and he doesn't like his situation? Is he going to pack up and head back home to Europe? He just doesn't seem man enough to play in the NBA. Really he should just stay in Europe, finish his contract, and if he's finally grown up by then he can come play in the NBA.

[QUOTE=Interminator]What the hell does that mean?

Chris Paul & Deron Williams didnt look like All Stars in Beiging either.:oldlol:[/QUOTE]


Well, there was a point made that Rubio played good defense in the China game. But the Chinese guards are scrubs. So shutting them down isn't much of an accomplishment. Remember we're discussing an NBA prospect here and a good performance defensively against some scrub guards on the Chinese national team (which is big man focussed) isn't necessarily a good indicator of how he'll defend the likes of Rose/ Chris Paul and co.

You guys cleary don't appreciate/understand the different system and culture sports have outside the NBA.

Basically, every player has freedom of choice in their career. They will sign for youth teams (normally whoever offers, or in their hometown), and their team will normally offer them a better long-term contract if it looks like they'll break into the first team.

The only way a player can move teams is if another team offers to buy him from his existing team. Once a price is agreed, the player will then negotiate a contract with the new team, which he can accept or decline, but essentially the player will decide. Players can be offered contracts at any time so naturally teams won't want their contract to expire. Trades almost never happen, its all about buying and selling.

It's not like in the NBA where your contract follows you around and you have to be traded for rather than bought. The NBA system is all about trying to keep things equal, the European system gives more freedom which allows for a much bigger difference between the teams.

So I don't blame Rubio for not wanting to go to Memphis or OKC - he's brought up somewhere he'd always have a choice, and who the hell from outside of America wants to end up in either of those two?

I wouldn't be surprised if he's got a shortlist of potential destinations (NY, LA, SF, all the well known American cities) and would be unhappy anywhere else.

[QUOTE=bdreason]Wizards need to trade up from the 5th spot to get him.


Rubio
[B]Arenas[/B]
Butler
Jamison
Haywood


If they stay healthy that could be nice playoff squad out East.[/QUOTE]

Who's that?

[QUOTE=lukekarts]You guys cleary don't appreciate/understand the different system and culture sports have outside the NBA.

Basically, every player has freedom of choice in their career. They will sign for youth teams (normally whoever offers, or in their hometown), and their team will normally offer them a better long-term contract if it looks like they'll break into the first team.

The only way a player can move teams is if another team offers to buy him from his existing team. Once a price is agreed, the player will then negotiate a contract with the new team, which he can accept or decline, but essentially the player will decide. Players can be offered contracts at any time so naturally teams won't want their contract to expire. Trades almost never happen, its all about buying and selling.

It's not like in the NBA where your contract follows you around and you have to be traded for rather than bought. The NBA system is all about trying to keep things equal, the European system gives more freedom which allows for a much bigger difference between the teams.

[B]So I don't blame Rubio for not wanting to go to Memphis or OKC - he's brought up somewhere he'd always have a choice, and who the hell from outside of America wants to end up in either of those two?

I wouldn't be surprised if he's got a shortlist of potential destinations (NY, LA, SF, all the well known American cities) and would be unhappy anywhere else[/B].[/QUOTE]

Well it's different here he has to adjust to the system, the system won't adjust to him. The likes of Dirk and other Euros have seemed fine with the transition, the bolded statement above isn't valid.

[QUOTE=STelfair31]Well it's different here he has to adjust to the system, the system won't adjust to him. The likes of Dirk and other Euros have seemed fine with the transition, the bolded statement above isn't valid.[/QUOTE]



Thank you.


We haves rules and systems in place in THIS country. Why should we cater to outside sources because THEY'RE USED TO another choice?


Hey, im using to scratching my balls when im at home. Does that mean i can go to any public area, and reach into my pants and tug away, because i have a choice?

He is not asking for the system to be adjusted to him, he is simply saying that he will not enter the system if it's not a good situation for him, which is entirely understandable.

[QUOTE=STelfair31]Well it's different here he has to adjust to the system, the system won't adjust to him. The likes of Dirk and other Euros have seemed fine with the transition, the bolded statement above isn't valid.[/QUOTE]
Dirk was a nobody before playing in Dallas while Rubio is an European star, it's clearly not the same situation.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Hey, im using to scratching my balls when im at home. Does that mean i can go to any public area, and reach into my pants and tug away, because i have a choice?[/QUOTE]
No, you can scratch you balls when you're home, the same way Rubio can choose where he plays as long as he isn't playing in the NBA.
Get it now?

[QUOTE=GMW]He is not asking for the system to be adjusted to him, he is simply saying that he will not enter the system if it's not a good situation for him, which is entirely understandable.[/QUOTE]



And by doing so, youve asked the system to adjust to your own liking.

What if Memphis, or OKC actually wanted this kid? They now have to go through the motions of shopping him around, or drafting someone else, because HE doesnt want to go to those teams.

[QUOTE=chains5000]No, you can scratch you balls when you're home, the same way Rubio can choose where he plays as long as he isn't playing in the NBA.
Get it now?[/QUOTE]



Sure I can, but will people like it?

This is what this conversation is about. He CAN DO IT....But people dont have to like it.

[QUOTE=STelfair31]Well it's different here he has to adjust to the system, the system won't adjust to him. The likes of Dirk and other Euros have seemed fine with the transition, the bolded statement above isn't valid.[/QUOTE]

Rubio is 18, immature, and will be paying a small fortune to come to the NBA. That's why he wants to go to a big market.

I'm not saying he's right, I'm just trying to justify why he has the attitude he has about where he wants to go.

Like lukekarts above just said, the european sports run in a different way... College does not play a significant role in Pro sports, Rubio wasn't drafted to DKV and also, as far as I know, there's chance he might have a better contract there with DKV than with a rookie contract in the NBA...

So tell me, why the heck would he leave the beautiful city of Barcelona, to come to a small city in US, to earn less money???
If I were him I would really come to US only if to a city as good as Barcelona and to a good team that will give him a prospect of development as a player and with decent coaching...

As far as his potential as a player, do you guys watch a lot of DKV games or you're just basing your opinion on the Olympics?

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Sure I can, but will people like it?

This is what this conversation is about. He CAN DO IT....But people dont have to like it.[/QUOTE]

And why does people need to "like it"... ?

He's already a Pro. His team doesn't even want to get rid of him...

He has options, why would he not make use of them? He decides what's best for himself.

I don't get the talk of "Who's the hell is that kid to think he can choose his team". He actually can.

[QUOTE=sobeking]Like lukekarts above just said, the european sports run in a different way... College does not play a significant role in Pro sports, Rubio wasn't drafted to DKV and also, as far as I know, there's chance he might have a better contract there with DKV than with a rookie contract in the NBA...

[B]So tell me, why the heck would he leave the beautiful city of Barcelona, to come to a small city in US, to earn less money???[/B]
If I were him I would really come to US only if to a city as good as Barcelona and to a good team that will give him a prospect of development as a player and with decent coaching...

As far as his potential as a player, do you guys watch a lot of DKV games or you're just basing your opinion on the Olympics?[/QUOTE]
Play with better players, improve his overall recognition/fame and give himself a chance to make more money in the future?