Magic Johnson" Your The Best Player in the World" (LeBron James)

[QUOTE=BallsOut]a typical Kobe wins championships

[IMG]http://www.7milesdown.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kobe4rings.jpg[/IMG]

a typical Lebron takes an early vacation celebrating his stats in the offseason

[IMG]http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/310120/news_lebron-james-check-my-stats-1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Freshprince619]:roll: :roll: Link? oh wait there is none[/QUOTE]


[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129391[/url]

[QUOTE=zORi]I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say this.

How about Shaq? Shaq was uber-dominant.

Magic said Lebron will be the best player for the next 15 years?

Dammit, I swear you can't believe anything any of these analysts say about Lebron because they all act like they have crushes on him. I mean, they are openly biased. Damn.[/QUOTE]
Obviously Magic doesn't really think Lebron is going to be the best for 15 years. Obviously he was just trying to make a point of how good Lebron is. Look at it this way, imagine Kobe had an amazing game, and made a lot of shots. Imagine someone who saw the game telling a person who didn't see the game how great Kobe was, and says something like, "Kobe hit like 50 shots in row." Obviously Kobe didn't really hit 50 shots in a row, but in trying to express how Kobe was in that game, he uses a much bigger number than it was.

[QUOTE=Lebron23]You are an idiot.

3x NBA MVP > 1x NBA MVP
3x NBA Finals MVP > 1x NBA Finals MVP

Magic is a top 5 player of all time. The Lakers never missed the playoffs when he was the no.1 option of his team.[/QUOTE]

Ignore the trolls.

Rings are overrated. They must be taken in context. Had Pippen won another ring without Jordan, is he a top 5 player of all-time? 7 rings would say so. Until you look closer and realize the rings he won in the context that they were won. By the same logic, KG was a better player 2 years ago than in 04. Anyone want to try to argue this point? I don't think so.

Stop posting Kobe ring pictures in an attack on LeBron as if it isn't widely known that Kobe has ALWAYS had the better team; by a considerable margin. Also, stop acting as if LeBron hasn't outperformed Kobe on a night by night basis for 2 years now.

There seems to be this Kobe vortex where arguments that apply (in their minds) to why Kobe is better than LeBron, don't apply to someone else being better than Kobe. Any evidence given is disregarded, yet used when it benefits their side. Also, we aren't comparing careers here. Kobe has obviously had the more decorated career, but that doesn't mean he's currently a better player. Should I post Shaq's ring pictures when someone says Dwight is better than him? This would be idiotic right?

You have to be an idiot to think Kobe is better than LeBron at this point. At this point, you are comparing Kobe, who has been awful thus far these playoffs, to LeBron who has been phenomenal. There is no comparison.

lebron is the best player in the world right now, impossible to guard one on one with his scoring ability and great passing ability. hurts to say OUCH

[QUOTE=Lebron23]You are an idiot.

3x NBA MVP > 1x NBA MVP
3x NBA Finals MVP > 1x NBA Finals MVP

Magic is a top 5 player of all time. The Lakers never missed the playoffs when he was the no.1 option of his team.[/QUOTE]
Let me guess the greatest judge of talent ever is stupid too??
Jerry West actually watched Both they careers not someone who just googled Magics wikipedia
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlyZ8wVCq0[/url]

:pimp: :pimp:

Looks like your the idiot

[QUOTE=Simple Jack]Ignore the trolls.

Rings are overrated. They must be taken in context. Had Pippen won another ring without Jordan, is he a top 5 player of all-time? 7 rings would say so. Until you look closer and realize the rings he won in the context that they were won. By the same logic, KG was a better player 2 years ago than in 04. Anyone want to try to argue this point? I don't think so.

Stop posting Kobe ring pictures in an attack on LeBron as if it isn't widely known that Kobe has ALWAYS had the better team; by a considerable margin. Also, stop acting as if LeBron hasn't outperformed Kobe on a night by night basis for 2 years now.

There seems to be this Kobe vortex where arguments that apply (in their minds) to why Kobe is better than LeBron, don't apply to someone else being better than Kobe. Any evidence given is disregarded, yet used when it benefits their side. Also, we aren't comparing careers here. Kobe has obviously had the more decorated career, but that doesn't mean he's currently a better player. Should I post Shaq's ring pictures when someone says Dwight is better than him? This would be idiotic right?

You have to be an idiot to think Kobe is better than LeBron at this point. At this point, you are comparing Kobe, who has been awful thus far these playoffs, to LeBron who has been phenomenal. There is no comparison.[/QUOTE]

Man if this was the late 80's/early 90's Laker fans would be putting up pics of Magic and Jordan in the same context. They would do it for the same reason then that they do now. They're scared. While they begrudgingly admit that Kobe won't pass Jordan, they took pride in the fact that they could say that Kobe is the greatest player this century. And much like Magic, before Kobe is even retired someone better is coming along.

If Cavs win it alll this year, get ready for 10000000000000 posts about "The weak pansy East vs the tough as nails, greatest conference ever West."

who cares

[QUOTE=BallsOut]a typical Kobe wins championships

[IMG]http://www.7milesdown.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kobe4rings.jpg[/IMG]

a typical Lebron takes an early vacation celebrating his stats in the offseason

[IMG]http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/310120/news_lebron-james-check-my-stats-1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

LoL @ this post!

[QUOTE=Freshprince619]Let me guess the greatest judge of talent ever is stupid too??
Jerry West actually watched Both they careers not someone who just googled Magics wikipedia
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlyZ8wVCq0[/url]

:pimp: :pimp:

Looks like your the idiot[/QUOTE]
So what West's opinion matters the most? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB2Wj6EZfGs[/url]

Stop being close minded and formulate your own opinions.

[QUOTE=NUPE_1911]LoL @ this post![/QUOTE]


it would have been funnier if he showed duncan this is old news.

you cant compare a guys career accomplishments to guy who has been in the league 6 or 7 years more.

What is this 2008? Is this still even a debate?

I'm a big Kobe fan and obviously LeBron is a better player now. I'd take LeBron with the current Laker squad than current Kobe to be honest. though of course Kobe does have 4 rings to his credit and he knows how to win. Hopefully he takes the summer off and gets surgery.

[QUOTE=King Lebron LBJ]Lebron doesn't need a superstar number two. Jamison has been quailty so far in the playoffs and overall the Cavs have so a balenced roster Lebron doesn't need a great 2nd option. He has the perfect role players to win the title. The Cavs have the best team and should win the title barring a meltdown.[/QUOTE]

We will see what you write when your team loses a series at one point in the playoffs

[QUOTE=Pha Q]Good luck with your CAVS...there going to need it[B]...if lebron struggles....nobody else will step up and the "BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD[/B]" doesnt fake that he got hit in the head when someone steals the ball from him lol lebron is funny[/QUOTE]


I agree.... Kobe can struggle and his team is still going to win some games.. Duncan can struggle and his team can win games... Dhoward only needs to play defense on some nights and his team wins but If Lebron struggles I doubt this Cavs team can win...

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]We will see what you write when your team loses a series at one point in the playoffs[/QUOTE]

If Cavs win I will make no excuses, there are none this year. I just think it is Lebron's year and this years Cavs is the best team Lebron has ever had. All the main weaknessess have been filled. Doesn't mean I don't think they can beat beat. They clearly can but I'm confident. They to me are the best team.

Guess we will have to say how things pan out.

[QUOTE=Lebron23]Tyreke Evans will be a better player than Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant in less than 3 years.[/QUOTE]


I doubt that..

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]I agree.... Kobe can struggle and his team is still going to win some games.. Duncan can struggle and his team can win games... Dhoward only needs to play defense on some nights and his team wins but If Lebron struggles I doubt this Cavs team can win...[/QUOTE]

Thats the thing Lebron never struggles offensively thats why he is so good. Even if he shoots bad he will ALWAYS help the team one way or another. Jamison in means another option who can take the scoring load.

[QUOTE=King Lebron LBJ]If Cavs win I will make no excuses, there are none this year. I just think it is Lebron's year and this years Cavs is the best team Lebron has ever had. All the main weaknessess have been filled. Doesn't mean I don't think they can beat beat. They clearly can but I'm confident. They to me are the best team.

Guess we will have to say how things pan out.[/QUOTE]


I think they are good but they have no chance to win unless Shaq gets back to the form he had when both Mo and Dante were out... That will be hard...

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]I think they are good but they have no chance to win unless Shaq gets back to the form he had when both Mo and Dante were out... That will be hard...[/QUOTE]

Cavs don't need Shaq all that much. They just need himto clog the paint. The Cavs have such a deep team that Shaq's scoring isn't needed. All he needs to do is rebounding, clog the paint and defend Dwight and other possible bigs which he will do. Cavs don't need much from Shaq to win the title.

[QUOTE=King Lebron LBJ]Cavs don't need Shaq all that much. They just need himto clog the paint. The Cavs have such a deep team that Shaq's scoring isn't needed. All he needs to do is rebounding, clog the paint and defend Dwight and other possible bigs which he will do. Cavs[B] don't need much from Shaq to win the title[/B].[/QUOTE]
Then why pay him 20 F*CKING MILLION DOLLARS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[QUOTE=Freshprince619]Then why pay him 20 F*CKING MILLION DOLLARS?!?!?!?!?!?!?![/QUOTE]

Last time I checked they didn't give him that contract :lol

Kobe Bryant is a great player and perhaps the second greatest shooting guard in the history of the game.But he is nowhere near to MJ.Not even close.

I watched Michael Jordan's career from the start to end and Kobe is nowhere near to MJ.

LeBron James is by far the best player in the world last two years.He is the best player I've ever seen since 1998.
LeBron has a small chance to challenge MJ as the Greatest player ever.And that's coming from a big MJ fan.

Kobe?No chance to challenge MJ!
Kobe was never as good as LeBron is the last 2 years.Not even close!

Kids-Kobe fans stop trolling..

[QUOTE=MakeHistory78]Kobe Bryant is a great player and perhaps the second greatest shooting guard in the history of the game.But he is nowhere near to MJ.Not even close.

I watched Michael Jordan's career from the start to end and Kobe is nowhere near to MJ.

LeBron James is by far the best player in the world last two years.He is the best player I've ever seen since 1998.
LeBron has a small chance to challenge MJ as the Greatest player ever.And that's coming from a big MJ fan.

Kobe?No chance to challenge MJ!
Kobe was never as good as LeBron is the last 2 years.Not even close!

Kids-Kobe fans stop trolling..[/QUOTE]
Already better then prime kobe,prime duncan, prime shaq?

Talk about Jordan/LBJ trolls :rolleyes:

So sad you embarrass the Jordan name

what a shame

[QUOTE=King Lebron LBJ]Last time I checked they didn't give him that contract :lol[/QUOTE]
Last time i checked thats what they're paying him

[QUOTE=Freshprince619]Last time i checked thats what they're paying him[/QUOTE]

Until july anyway

Shaq was brought in to help guard guys like Dwight, Bynum, Gasol e.t.c and basically clog the paint. To me if he brings home a title then it is certainly worth it.

[QUOTE=Freshprince619]Already better then prime kobe,prime duncan, prime shaq?

Talk about Jordan/LBJ trolls :rolleyes:

So sad you embarrass the Jordan name

what a shame[/QUOTE]
For sure better than prime Kobe!For sure!
If he'll win it this year yes better than all of them.Shaq was a beast,Duncan was also very good but look LeBron's year...29.7/7.3/8.6..with 50.3%...Are you kidding me...One of the Greatest PER ever..

Yes he is the best...MJ is the GOAT and Kobe,Duncan,Shaq are nowhere near to MJ.
LeBron right now is far from MJ but he has a small chance to challenge him...

[QUOTE=MakeHistory78]For sure better than prime Kobe!For sure!
If he'll win it this year yes better than all of them.Shaq was a beast,Duncan was also very good but look LeBron's year...29.7/7.3/8.6..with 50.3%...Are you kidding me...One of the Greatest PER ever..

Yes he is the best...MJ is the GOAT and Kobe,Duncan,Shaq are nowhere near to MJ.
LeBron right now is far from MJ but he has a small chance to challenge him...[/QUOTE]
Talk about trolling :ohwell:

[QUOTE=Freshprince619]Talk about trolling :ohwell:[/QUOTE]
This the true my friend.
Trolling=all the young Kids in this board...

[QUOTE=Freshprince619]Already better then prime kobe,prime duncan, prime shaq?

Talk about Jordan/LBJ trolls :rolleyes:

So sad you embarrass the Jordan name

what a shame[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

To say that Kobe has and will never even come close to MJ and then in the same breath (or should I say post) say that Lebron can is just stupid.

[QUOTE=zORi]Exactly.

To say that Kobe has and will never even come close to MJ and then in the same breath (or should I say post) say that Lebron can is just stupid.[/QUOTE]
Exactly what?
Yes Kobe isn't/wasn't even close to Michael!His best years are over and we watched his peak.Not even close to the GOAT and LeBron at least this year...

LeBron is 25 and he is damn good.So yes i give me him a chance!

[QUOTE=MakeHistory78]Exactly what?
Yes Kobe isn't/wasn't even close to Michael!His best years are over and we watched his peak.Not even close to the GOAT and LeBron at least this year...

LeBron is 25 and he is damn good.So yes i give me him a chance![/QUOTE]
I hope your not 31 because your pretty damn illiterate

[QUOTE=MakeHistory78]Exactly what?
Yes Kobe isn't/wasn't even close to Michael!His best years are over and we watched his peak.Not even close to the GOAT and LeBron at least this year...

LeBron is 25 and he is damn good.So yes i give me him a chance![/QUOTE]


Your one the worst posters in here :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[QUOTE=MakeHistory78]Exactly what?
Yes Kobe isn't/wasn't even close to Michael!His best years are over and we watched his peak.Not even close to the GOAT and LeBron at least this year...

LeBron is 25 and he is damn good.So yes i give me him a chance![/QUOTE]


Let me explain something..

You're forgetting that everyone was saying the same things about kobe. When kobe was entering his peak. Kobe at 27 (equivalent to lbj at 25 minutes wise as far as I know or close) was scoring 81, going on 10 game streaks of scoring 40... 8 game streaks of 50.. It was insane. Everyone on the face of the planet when watching Kobe said the same things they are saying about Lebron now. To be honest at least from what I remember the hype was even more than what lbj has now. However circumstances change, and at some point you have to decide between stats and championships. Kobe put himself in a place to end up with 5-6 rings, where as he could have went for the stats and ended up with 4 max. When that question comes up to lebron (and I believe it is coming up this off season) will lebron choose the rings or the stats? Will lebron ask for an all star to guarantee contending for the next 5 years like Kobe did or will he be satisfied with losing in the east bracket for a couple years until his teammates develop (and I promise u, there will be a situation like this in lebrons career).

So in conclusion, we don't know who is gonna end up where on the all time list.. But right now, Kobe is higher than Lebron if both careers ended today and whoever wins this ring is making a MASSIVE push for t5 status.

Wow... Freshprince and Pha Q really need to get some p*ssy...

[QUOTE=EllisGW]who cares[/QUOTE]

This. Don't even know why I made the thread, I was shocked with how crazy Magic got, got so into it, like he was in a trans which really took me by surprise. Hopefully it goes up on youtube.

Never understood how "who is the best" talk are so popular among fans.

[QUOTE=theguru]Wow... Freshprince and Pha Q really need to get some p*ssy...[/QUOTE]


I gotta girl so I get all the ***** I need dont even worry bout dat...I dont come here often as you can see.....I just came in here just to give my opinion...thats all..your the one that prolly needs to get sum p*ssy

[QUOTE=Freshprince619]
Looks like your the idiot[/QUOTE]

The irony never gets old.

[QUOTE=theguru]Wow... Freshprince and Pha Q really need to get some p*ssy...[/QUOTE]

I disagree. The gene pool doesn't need retards breeding.

This isn't thread worthy. Anyone who watches the NBA on a regular basis knows LeBron is better than Kobe.

[QUOTE=greymatter]I disagree. The gene pool doesn't need retards breeding.[/QUOTE]


lol...you guys are funny....I dont really come here often so I have a life outside of INSIDEHOOPS so to the person says I need p*ssy you prolly need help with getting p*ssy so im sorry to hear that...I gotta girl so I dont have to worry about that part..you know this thread has gone south when you guys have to knit pick that we need p*ssy when your the one that needs it :applause: :applause: