Yahoo!: LeBron's unbearable attitude with Team USA and Nike's warning...

[QUOTE=Carbine]The original article posted in this thread is basically ripping on LeBron for being a terrible, immature, full of himself 19 and 21 year old.....

Since then, at 23, which was the 2008 Olympics, and two years later at 25... he has become a great leader. Is he still full of himself and an attention whore? Yeah, but that's not a surprise to anyone. So basically, this is just another hate LeBron thread which should be deleted by the mods.

I can't wait for LeBron to sh!t on everyone. He's the type of guy to make an opposing team crumble if you chalenge him verbally, like most fans will do via chant.[/QUOTE]

I think the point of the article was that 2 years ago, Lebron was an asshole and they considered throwing him off the team...and had Kidd babysit him.
So has he changed in 2 years? If so, not very much, imo.

[QUOTE=crisoner]And just how the f*ck do you of all people know that?

You're pathetic.[/QUOTE]

You dumb f*ck . The writer is just like you, a Kobe dickrider and he HATES Lebron. He is trying to take advantage of the situation and raise Kobes status.

STFU now

[QUOTE=Carbine]The original article posted in this thread is basically ripping on LeBron for being a terrible, immature, full of himself 19 and 21 year old.....

Since then, at 23, which was the 2008 Olympics, and two years later at 25... he has become a great leader. Is he still full of himself and an attention whore? Yeah, but that's not a surprise to anyone. So basically, this is just another hate LeBron thread which should be deleted by the mods.

I can't wait for LeBron to sh!t on everyone. He's the type of guy to make an opposing team crumble if you chalenge him verbally, like most fans will do via chant.[/QUOTE]
I've been one of James' biggest critics over the last few months, but the idea that him winning in Miami will surprise me or devastate me... On the contrary, I will be shocked if the Heat don't win titles almost immediately.

For all of his faults, James is still far-and-away the best basketball player on the planet in my eyes and his talent on the court can not be overstated.

As for deleting the thread... I'm trying my best to stay on top of redundant threads, but there is an active discussion going on, here... You would probably be surprised at how many LeBron and/or Heat related threads I delete each day.

Just to keep the forum as cleaned up as it is now, it is almost a full-time job. :oldlol:

did anyone actually read the article or are there just a ton of people talking about something they didn't even read?

There is some really interesting stuff in there.

[QUOTE]Within an hour of the Cavaliers’ season ending in Boston, James’ inner circle, including power broker William Wesley, agent Leon Rose and business manager Maverick Carter, stood outside the visiting locker room grumbling about coach Mike Brown.

[B]James had wanted Brown gone a year earlier after the Cavs lost in the Eastern Conference finals to the Orlando Magic [/B]– despite Brown guiding Cleveland to 66 victories while winning the league’s Coach of the Year award. Ferry debated Gilbert to keep Brown. He won out, but Ferry knew it would be tough to make that case again in 2010. Every decision the Cavaliers made had to be run past James. He didn’t always get to decide, but he had to be consulted.

This time, [B]Gilbert believed he had to fire Brown to have a chance of re-signing James. When he was fired, Brown purposely left his star’s name out of a public statement of thanks.[/B] He knew James had led the movement for his dismissal for more than two years and Brown no longer needed to pretend that he liked, or respected James.[/QUOTE]

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Before the Cavaliers ever reached out to him, Izzo turned down a less lucrative offer to coach the Chicago Bulls. James wasn’t returning Gilbert’s calls and messages – never mind willing to talk with Izzo. [B]Before Izzo finally turned down Gilbert, he was delivered a direct line to two of James’ close NBA friends, who told him he should only take the job with an expectation he’ll never coach James in Cleveland.[/B] Gilbert tried to sell Izzo, but the coach feared there wasn’t a single influential official in the Cavs organization who truly had a relationship with James.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]For everything the Bulls tried to sell – from owner Jerry Reinsdorf to GM Gar Forman to coach Tom Thibodeau – there had been [B]one thing that troubled James’ about the Bulls pitch: Derrick Rose(notes) never called and tried to recruit him.[/B]

Chicago officials never directly requested Rose to reach out with a call, and the young point guard felt James could’ve always reached out to him had he wanted to discuss the possibility of playing together. [B]James needed to be courted, needed to be wooed and apparently it surprised him there was a star who wasn’t falling over himself to do that.[/B][/QUOTE]


[QUOTE][B]Wade wasn’t allowed to recruit for the Heat before the end of the NBA Finals, because he was still a Heat employee. Yet before the end of the Finals, there were two June meetings that involved Wade and members of James’ inner circle –[/B] one in Ohio and another in Chicago. The NBA doesn’t seem interested in pursuing a tampering probe, but a senior NBA official wants the league to investigate whether Riley promised James employment and benefits to members of his camp.

“The bigger issue is salary-cap circumvention,” one top NBA front-office executive told Yahoo!. “You can’t promise jobs or preferential services outside of a contract or a job for a friend. If that’s part of the deal, it’s a violation.”[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][B]Wade and Bosh made public their choices on July 7[/B] and waited for word that would soon quietly come to them: LeBron was on his way to Miami , the greatest coup in free-agent history complete. [B]Later that day, Carter was on the phone with free agent Mike Miller(notes) telling him that James was going to Miami [/B]and that he needed to join them as a sharpshooter playing off the three stars.

Back in Akron, [B]James still wanted to go through his live hourlong television show on July 8 to announce his decision.[/B] This had been Maverick Carter’s big idea, his production, and still people around him worried about the fallout in Cleveland. Several friends told James this was a bad idea to do to his hometown, that leaving the Cavaliers live on national television would make this a public-relations disaster for him.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]The TV event had delivered hope to the Cavaliers that they would keep James because they never believed he would go on air and open himself to such a visceral reaction.

Better than anyone, they knew LeBron James could sometimes be so unaware of the world outside his own needs, his own yes men. Nearly two years later, the whispers in the back of the bus rolling through Beijing had become the loudest statement in free-agency history.[B] The telephone call to the Cleveland Cavaliers came minutes before the 9 p.m. show[/B], and somehow the news still shocked them. LeBron James was leaving, and the truth finally washed over owner Dan Gilbert and his front office: James had been gone a long time. They just never wanted to believe it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]I think the point of the article was that 2 years ago, Lebron was an asshole and they considered throwing him off the team...and had Kidd babysit him.
So has he changed in 2 years? If so, not very much, imo.[/QUOTE]

Please show me where it says anything about LeBron in 2008.

All I see are comments about him when he was 19 and 21 years old.

"No one could stand James as a 19-year-old in the 2004 Athens Olympics, nor the 2006 World Championships. Officials feared James could become the instigator of everything they wanted to rid themselves for the

My perspective on the situations people talk about...

Derek Rose is not a guy who wants to take 20-25 shots, hes a guy who will do whats best for the team in that his defensive potential shows in a close game, and his Must win attitude. Lead a final four Memphis team as a freshmen. I do think hes a combo guard with good PG skills.

I dont know about the lebron thing, but I do know the bulls do not tolerate diva's. Its been well known by people within that organization that James already was 75percent Miami Bound and Chicago would not accomadate his entourage of people like he wanted.

The articles about Team USA doesnt make me think less of him. Its sad how the media is, but they do cover things up like the mafia. James hasnt been in trouble with the law but I have heard hes just as much a partier as other nBA players. hes cheats, and he smokes weed. hes just a functional partier that knows when to get down to business.

People forget Michael Jordan was a big asshole. He didnt do charity for the city of chicago.Any type of charity(goodwill) Chicago had was by BJ Armstong,Pipp,Grant. Michael was a womanizer(True story he hit on my aunt at a CHicago Bar) And he was a gambler who I truely believe gambled on NBA games. He gave Chicago 6 championships and did his job.

Lets just forcus on Lebron James doing his job, because the HOF guys like MAgic,Jordan,Barkley, dealt with SERIOUS skeletons.

Lebron needs to seriously watch out for his "inner circle" because when shit hits the fan, loyalty is gone. Look at MC Hammer, Michael Vick....

[QUOTE=Carbine]Please show me where it says anything about LeBron in 2008.

All I see are comments about him when he was 19 and 21 years old.

"No one could stand James as a 19-year-old in the 2004 Athens Olympics, nor the 2006 World Championships. Officials feared James could become the instigator of everything they wanted to rid themselves for the ’08 Olympics."

That's basically the meat and potatoes of the article. It's all about what people thought of James at a 19, and 21 year old....nothing to do with 2008.[/QUOTE]
There are comments from sources about how Cleveland basically had to bend over backwards for him and about how he didn't have the concentration for normal film study, so Cleveland had to tailor those sessions around James... Make them brief.

Also, the thing about Mike Brown not included James when he went public after his dismissal.

Those aren't necessarily things that are indicative of a d!ckhead, but interesting nonetheless.

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That's basically the meat and potatoes of the article. It's all about what people thought of James at a 19, and 21 year old....nothing to do with 2008.[/QUOTE]

no it isn't. did you even read the whole thing?

the article is mainly about the Cavs never having a shot at keeping LeBron in the first place.

You guyyyz, LeBron has matured a lot since then.

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I'm sooo surprised Cavs have collapsed in the playoffs with the demanding and tough brand of leadership LeBron's been providing. And it's not like he was immature or acted like a diva throughout the free agency process. Not like teams who met with him reported that he and his team were unprofessional and acted like "kids". Not like he demanded a 1 hr TV special to attention whore. Not like he quit on his team in the middle of a series.

Not at all. He is mature now.

[QUOTE=kentatm]no it isn't. did you even read the whole thing?

[B]the article is mainly about the Cavs never having a shot at keeping LeBron in the first place[/B].[/QUOTE]

This.

And it makes Lebron look more and more like attention seeking asshole.

none of this is surprising. all you have to do is listen to the guy talk in interviews.

it's great what good PR can do for you until you **** up.

yeah, this was surprising news. NOT!!

[QUOTE]The telephone call to the Cleveland Cavaliers came minutes before the 9 p.m. show[/QUOTE]

That's awful, wow. Thought he might have told them a day earlier. Why fk them over like this after 7 years? Not only had most of the free agents committed by then, but you and I knew 10 minutes after the Cavs organization did.

Lol LBJ is done for. Just wait until D-Wade flails out with an injury or CB4 is too soft, or Erick Spolestra is too inexperience as a coach etc..

Who is LBJ going to blame then? Better yet, LBJ has yet to receive any type of injury that requires surgery...with the way he plays and the karma that has yet to sink in...

Next thing you know, Mike Brown and Dan Gilbert writes a tell-all book about LBJ with the book being dedicated to Delonte West...I can't wait until they reveal this guy has been taking HgH...

[QUOTE=Fatal9]That's awful, wow. Thought he might have told them a day earlier. Why fk them over like this after 7 years? Not only had most of the free agents committed by then, but you and I knew 10 minutes after the Cavs organization did.[/QUOTE]
Not only that, but he had some lackey in his entourage make the call. He didn't even do it himself... He could have at least given Carter the job of telling them.

One thing Lebron needs to do is dump the posse, never let your high school buddies run your career, it is bound to **** up.

[QUOTE=game3524]One thing Lebron needs to do is dump the posse, never let your high school buddies run your career, it is bound to **** up.[/QUOTE]
The guys from Akron in his entourage were the ones telling him not to do it this way. They actually seemed like the voice-of-reason throughout that PR disaster. Mav Carter is an idiot, obviously... But those other Akron guys may be the only ones keeping him grounded in the least (and even they don't seem successful in doing that).

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]The guys from Akron in his entourage were the ones telling him not to do it this way. They actually seemed like the voice-of-reason throughout that PR disaster.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, your right I just reread the article. Jesus Christ! Lebron is either really self-absorbed or is just a plain dumbass, this is just common sense. Yeah, Cavs fans are going to hate you no matter what, but this was just adding fuel to the fire by doing it on TV.

[COLOR=Teal][B]Well, good thing they have Wade in Miami to balance things out. Besides, LeBron should be more mature and serious about winning by now.
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The **** did people think would happen if you took a father-less kid out of the projects,threw millions at him after high-school all while he's surrounded by an entourage of feeble-minded enablers and opportunists. LeBron acts like an ass because he never learned how to or even had to actually grow up.

Interesting article. For those who are hating on Adrian Wojnarowski maybe you should actually read the damn thing before you talk. All he does it outline the major events that led to Lebron choosing the heat. He leaves the judgment to you.

[QUOTE=Mr Clutch Melo]Honestly I think this is BS. Coach K has always loved Lebron + Adrian Wojnarowski is a garbage writer[/QUOTE]

Actually, Adrian Wojnarowski is a pretty good writer.

[QUOTE=Andrei89]Why so insecure?:lol

Just trying to see your ongoing streak of mentioning kobe in every thread that ain't related to him

Why so insecure?[/QUOTE]
Well, Kobe was mentioned in the article. People reading this thread are gonna talk about Kobe then.

Not surprising. Of course, Cavs fans on RCF used to think Woj was crazy until LeBron left. Now his insight was 100% correct. :oldlol:

Also have to laugh at OldSchoolBBall. He just better be glad Jordan wasn't playing in this era. The internet is serious business.

[QUOTE=Carbine]People evolve. Why does it matter what LeBron was like in 2004, or 2006? He became a great leader.

Read up.[/QUOTE]
"The leader" became a quitter.

[QUOTE]threw millions at him after high-school all while he's surrounded by an entourage of feeble-minded enablers and opportunists[/QUOTE]
also it seems the cavs never stood up to him. he is good but you cant let a kid run the show. they do not know enough. maybe if someone was there to put him in his place in day one things would have gone differently.

[QUOTE=Indian guy]Those are some very vague statements. He was "demanding" and had a "bad attitude"? Became "tolerable" to teammates and coaches? OK :rolleyes:. Are they talking about the same player who has never had a teammate say a single negative word against him? Coach K also went out his way to proclaim LeBron the leader of Team USA in Beijing and couldn't stop gushing about him the entire tournament.

Woj IS respected, but anyone familiar with his history knows he has a serious axe to grind when it comes to LeBron. He's been obsessed with tearing the guy down for a very long time.[/QUOTE]


Why did he write this article praising him if he has a serious axe to grind with LeBron:

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebrongarden020509[/url]

[QUOTE=PP34Deuce]My perspective on the situations people talk about...

Derek Rose is not a guy who wants to take 20-25 shots, hes a guy who will do whats best for the team in that his defensive potential shows in a close game, and his Must win attitude. Lead a final four Memphis team as a freshmen. I do think hes a combo guard with good PG skills.

I dont know about the lebron thing, but I do know the bulls do not tolerate diva's. Its been well known by people within that organization that James already was 75percent Miami Bound and Chicago would not accomadate his entourage of people like he wanted.

The articles about Team USA doesnt make me think less of him. Its sad how the media is, but they do cover things up like the mafia. James hasnt been in trouble with the law but I have heard hes just as much a partier as other nBA players. hes cheats, and he smokes weed. hes just a functional partier that knows when to get down to business.

[B]People forget Michael Jordan was a big asshole. He didnt do charity for the city of chicago.Any type of charity(goodwill) Chicago had was by BJ Armstong,Pipp,Grant.[/B] Michael was a womanizer(True story he hit on my aunt at a CHicago Bar) And he was a gambler who I truely believe gambled on NBA games. He gave Chicago 6 championships and did his job.

Lets just forcus on Lebron James doing his job, because the HOF guys like MAgic,Jordan,Barkley, dealt with SERIOUS skeletons.

Lebron needs to seriously watch out for his "inner circle" because when shit hits the fan, loyalty is gone. Look at MC Hammer, Michael Vick....[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: This is a big fat lie...

[QUOTE=Indian guy]Those are some very vague statements. He was "demanding" and had a "bad attitude"? Became "tolerable" to teammates and coaches? OK :rolleyes:. Are they talking about the same player who has never had a teammate say a single negative word against him? Coach K also went out his way to proclaim LeBron the leader of Team USA in Beijing and couldn't stop gushing about him the entire tournament.

Woj IS respected, but anyone familiar with his history knows he has a serious axe to grind when it comes to LeBron. He's been obsessed with tearing the guy down for a very long time.[/QUOTE]

I've never liked woj. He's been looking to tear down lebron everytime but has never found any loopholes to do so.. I respect guys like skip bayless for not hiding their hate for lebron, woj is worse.

[QUOTE=YouGotServed]I'm starting to believe LeBron had an even bigger ego than Kobe Bryant as a teenager.[/QUOTE]

I dunno, you have to have a pretty big ego to think you can rape someone and get away with it.. just saying.

Does not compute with what other writers were saying about Lebron during the Olympics. I would think this shit would come out much sooner, and at least 1 teammate would say something bad about him.

Even Kobe constantly sticks up for Lebron in interviews, etc.

nice post

so we are gonna hate a guy for what he was 4 years ago? lol funny ****

[QUOTE=Mr Clutch Melo]Lol @ you and the other Kobe- nuthu*gers :roll: Every jornualist that rips Lebron is among the best writers :oldlol:[/QUOTE]



And those same "Kobe ******gers" can always count on you following them around, quoting them.


You're like some weird parasite that grows in the collective asses of every LA fan.

[QUOTE=RazielTheWolf]so we are gonna hate a guy for what he was 4 years ago? lol funny ****[/QUOTE]



I dont think anyone that is sane "hates him" for this, or anything in general, but it is yet another example of why people have a general distaste for Lebron, and his overall image/attitude.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]I dont think anyone that is sane "hates him" for this, or anything in general, but it is yet another example of why people have a general distaste for Lebron, and his overall image/attitude.[/QUOTE]makes sense

[QUOTE=Poodle]honestly i've watched the bulls a LOT. you aren't going to tell me what isn't true. to say Rose doesn't like to shoot is like saying AI doesn't like to shoot. there is no way you can seriously say Rose is a pass first guard, or even thinks of himself that way given the way he plays. just no way. thats absurd.[/QUOTE]

You haven't watched enough if you didn't know he was constantly being criticized for not shooting enough. Chicago media has been whining and moaning for him to take more shots and "be a leader" for the entirety of every season he's been in the NBA.


[QUOTE=DropStep]First Kobe, now Lebron. The media will make you or break you. Lebron better start winning some championships while scoring 40 ppg or he is gonna have alot of more articles like this.

Guy rising popularity like Kevin Durant and Derrick Rose should be very afraid.[/QUOTE]

Doubt it for Durant. That dude's saying and doing everything right. He's going to be the next NBA darling, probably starting this season. So long as he matches what he did last year, or at least stays close, and his team does well. . .Durant's easily going to be the most hyped played in the league, taking Kobe and LeBron's places.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]I dont think anyone that is sane "hates him" for this, or anything in general, but it is yet another example of why people have a general distaste for Lebron, and his overall image/attitude.[/QUOTE]

The greater problem is that it perpetuates the negative NBA player image, which is keeping the NBA from becoming increasingly popular.

WTF - this is getting way out of hand. Can we just all STFU and play basketball please? You know today's society is one that is in love with building some up, watching them train wreck, taking advantage of them, and then passively watching them try to pick up the crumbles to rebuild themselves all over again.

Its sick.

I like following white nba players cause they just seem more mature, more serious, i can identify with them...black players? not so much, they all scream immaturity.