Basically asking would you do a year of solitary in prison for 10 mil. Solitary is apparently excruciating, but I would definitely give it a go for 10 million.
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Basically asking would you do a year of solitary in prison for 10 mil. Solitary is apparently excruciating, but I would definitely give it a go for 10 million.
[QUOTE=BankShot]Once again, I think people underestimate how long 12-16 hours per day is with no mental or physical stimuli. There's only so many pushups and mind scenarios one can go through. Say what you will, but there's a reason $10 million is associated with what has so far been deemed as an "easy task"[/QUOTE]
It's not an easy task by any means. Most would have difficulties and fail. Their approach to it would be something like yours and eventually drive themselves insane.
Here's a different approach. Semi-convince yourself you are here forever. Convince yourself you are being punished similar to someone who is in jail for the rest of their lives. What would you do? You wouldn't think about getting out, keeping track of time, using that $10 million dollars, your family, any of that. You would sit around, lie down, close your eyes, and repeat this again and again. Depressing? Yes. Insane? No. Because you are accepting it. You are not eager to get out and worrying about time. Add in some physical activities, and there you have it. Before you know it, you will be out of there.
The approach basically asks you to convince yourself you are here forever, and if you can do that, you will be out [B]quicker[/B] than you think. Being in there for a year can't be worse than actually going to jail for life. Think how these prisoners feel. But they still last.
Im not sure if i could do that, i mean no nothing just a empty room and the basics. I think i might be able to last a amonth or 2 before i start to crack. Give me at least a baskeball or some books or some pens and paper and i think that will at LEAST double my chances of doing it. 10 mil is great but you would have to be f'd up in the head already to make it a whole year.
Though ultimately, it comes down to how your mind approaches it. If you come in with the wrong mind-set, you will suffer. If you come in with the right mind-set, you will come out happier than you ever have been and totally sane. It might require some self-trickery, but it will be worth it, big time.
The less eager you are to get out, the less time you will spend thinking about getting out, and the less insane you will become.
[QUOTE=Gambler23]f there.
The approach basically asks you to convince yourself you are here forever, and if you can do that, you will be out [B]quicker[/B] than you think. Being in there for a year can't be worse than actually going to jail for life. [B]Think how these prisoners feel. But they still last.[/B][/QUOTE]
Dont get me wrong, I understand where you're going with this. However, your [B]average prisoner[/B] has social interactions with fellow inmates, guards, and visitors. They have access to at least a pen and paper, if not a select library of books. They get to leave their cell for portions of the day. They can experience sunlight.
Here's my reasoning for why I could do it, I've went over a month before(while being depressed) with just sitting in my bed doing nothing, no tv, internet, phone, ipod, nothing. Just eating, if i actually did that, and leaving to go to the bathroom. I really think I could do it based on that fact. while it was obviously under a different circumstance, i think it's basically how you mentally approach it.
[QUOTE=DatDudeD]Im not sure if i could do that, i mean no nothing just a empty room and the basics. I think i might be able to last a amonth or 2 before i start to crack. [B]Give me at least a baskeball or some books or some pens and paper and i think that will at LEAST double my chances of doing it. [/B]10 mil is great but you would have to be f'd up in the head already to make it a whole year.[/QUOTE]
Do people really not grasp the challenge thats being presented?? The point of this exercise is that you have [B][I]nothing[/I][/B] but essentials for life, and the space you are enclosed in. Nothing else. No paper, no books, no basketball, no contact with anyone. Nothing. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=BankShot]Dont get me wrong, I understand where you're going with this. However, your [B]average prisoner[/B] has social interactions with fellow inmates, guards, and visitors. They have access to at least a pen and paper, if not a select library of books. They get to leave their cell for portions of the day. They can experience sunlight.[/QUOTE]
I see what you are saying but you would still rather NOT spend your life in jail than a year in that empty room. But you get what I'm saying. On a day-to-day basis, the less hope you have, the less eager you are to get released, the quicker time will fly by.
I think some of you are underestimating how much $10,000,000 is. I'm living fine now, but like someone said, no problem giving up that 1 yr of my life, knowing that the remaining yrs will be so much better. I am an introvert anyways so being by myself is not new, foreign, or scary to me at all.
I would probably treat it the same way I do long plan rides and car rides and try to sleep through as much of it as possible.
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I would probably treat it the same way I do long plan rides and car rides and try to sleep through as much of it as possible.[/QUOTE]
These are the kind of comments that make me realize how naive people can be. :roll:
[QUOTE=Rose]Here's my reasoning for why I could do it, I've went over a month before(while being depressed) with just sitting in my bed doing nothing, no tv, internet, phone, ipod, nothing. Just eating, if i actually did that, and leaving to go to the bathroom. I really think I could do it based on that fact. while it was obviously under a different circumstance, i[B] think it's basically how you mentally approach it.[/B][/QUOTE]
I agree. Here is another mental approach. Besides for my previous prisoner one. It's kind of interesting and worth a shot.
Pretend it's a long dream. I know sounds kind of crazy. But let's think about this. Being stuck in a empty is dream (or nightmare) like. Only in a dream would you ever imagine yourself in a situation like this. So initially it's not too hard to tell yourself you are dreaming. Now if you can convince yourself it's just a long dream, I think you will take everything less seriously. You wouldn't be too worried about your family, or the 10 million dollars. Just trying to outlast this dream. Just keep telling yourself everyday, "I am just dreaming and I will wake up soon with everything I had yesterday". It will all seem like fantasy to you. Maybe that will help you last.
Kind of a risky plan, but maybe for some this could be the right mind-set.
I don't know.
I wouldn't risky my sanity to win 10mil and can't spent them in the right way.
[QUOTE=BankShot]The fact that 90% of posters have said they could do it makes me think that the general consensus is that ISH thinks its a no-brainer.[/quote]
I don't think they see it as an easy task. They see the 10 mil and think, "Hell yeah, I could do that!" Ask if they'd do it for far less if you think they think it's an easy task. It's just that their minds are more focused on the 10 mil than the actual task.
[QUOTE=Gambler23]I agree. Here is another mental approach. Besides for my previous prisoner one. It's kind of interesting and worth a shot.
Pretend it's a long dream. I know sounds kind of crazy. But let's think about this. Being stuck in a empty is dream (or nightmare) like. Only in a dream would you ever imagine yourself in a situation like this. So initially it's not too hard to tell yourself you are dreaming. Now if you can convince yourself it's just a long dream, I think you will take everything less seriously. You wouldn't be too worried about your family, or the 10 million dollars. Just trying to outlast this dream. It will all seem like fantasy to you. Maybe that will help.
Kind of a risky plan, but maybe for some this could be the right mind-set.[/QUOTE]
I know how I'd break it down mentally
first couple months I'd do it because I know I could then month three rolls around and I start thinking of 10mil and what Im going to do with it and that would get me to maybe month 5 and I'd be like well I'm nearly half way there why not go more. and I'd make it to month six and know that after that it's alllll down hill.
Now re-adjusting to society would be terrible, and I'd probably be ****ed up in the head for awhile. and feel weird being around people again and feeling anti-social. But I'm pretty sure 10million would make up for that.
[QUOTE=BankShot]These are the kind of comments that make me realize how naive people can be. :roll:[/QUOTE]
This. There is no chance I'd be able to do this. Humans are social creatures, and the mind needs stimulation. Read any book written by someone who has been in solitary confinement and you will hear it's the absoloute worst punishment. Read Marching Powder earlier this year and he talks about how it is absoloute hell. I think people really underestimate how hard this can be.
wouldn't do it because I'd go crazy, not worth 10M to make your self a schitzo for the rest of your life.
On a side-note, I think Hollywood should make a movie on this. Some crazy man offers anyone $10 Million to do this project, and a small number of people accept the offer. And then we can see how each person approaches it, how they think, and how they end up. Would be a nice small budget film.
[QUOTE=BankShot]These are the kind of comments that make me realize how naive people can be. :roll:[/QUOTE]
How so? Obviously I am not going to sleep 365 days straight and you'd be naive if you even assumed I meant that. But I can sleep 10-12 hrs a day easily. Eat, sleep, workout, think about chics, daydream about my future as a multimillionaire.
As far as missing out on a yr of pop culture, you could catch up when you get up. Not much important or lifechanging is going to change. Glenn Beck an Fox News are still going to be mad, Jersey Shore will still be on tv, the same artists will be hot with a few new ones who you missed the beginning of their career, Lindsey Lohan will be in and out of rehab, etc. I don't think it would be a hard readjustment at all.
Let's just take from today and go a yr back and act as if you just got out from the experiment today. What will you have missed? You might wonder how/why Jersey Shore clowns are so popular, yet you still would have been free for the first season. You'll be like who the hell is Justin Bieber. You might have missed when different fashion trends kind of crossed and the European influence made its way into all styles of fashion so you'll wonder why the hell everybody's clothes are so tight. Obama was president a yr ago so no chance there. A few celebrities died while you were in. Who won the title in sports? LeBron is a Heat, how'd that happen? 2 minutes and somebody fills you in.
[QUOTE=GOBB]What part of being LOCKED IN AN EMPTY ROOM dont you understand?
This is not hey guys you're going to be locked in a room and in it will be things that interest you that you can enjoy for a year. And get this? $10,000,000 will be yours. The whole idea is you sitting in an isolated room for an entire year with only the things to survive (so you dont die in it).
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GOBB, im shaking my head slowly back and forth. The op is clearly stated and understood, we are saying IF you were gonna do that shit then THAT is how you would do it. It would be easy as hell if you had just one distraction (ball and hoop, guitar and pick, porn mag and hand) to get yourself through it. The comment was based on how much easier it would be for that one distraction, not "lets ignore the EMPTY ROOM FACTOR" and spin wheels.
thank you for your time
[QUOTE=Gambler23]On a side-note, I think Hollywood should make a movie on this. Some crazy man offers anyone $10 Million to do this project, and a small number of people accept the offer. And then we can see how each person approaches it, how they think, and how they end up. Would be a nice small budget film.[/QUOTE]
I kinda want to say this has been tried before, I just can't remember when or how.
[QUOTE=BankShot]Do people really not grasp the challenge thats being presented?? The point of this exercise is that you have [B][I]nothing[/I][/B] but essentials for life, and the space you are enclosed in. Nothing else. No paper, no books, no basketball, no contact with anyone. Nothing. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
yeah yeah yeah..... i can read, i was just making a statement. Thank you for wasting your own time. Read the rest of what i said, i clearly said that i wasnt sure that i could do it.
Id be fine to begin with, but by month 2 I'd be smearing shit on the walls and having hallucinations of the JFK assassination. Something that sounds easy, but if hardened criminals crack in solitary, I doubt anyone here could hack it.
I had a client whose parents locked him in a small room the size of a closet until he was 15.....I could definitely do one year.
Question. For those that think they can hack it, have any of you ever been locked up? Prison? Jail?
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Question. For those that think they can hack it, have any of you ever been locked up? Prison? Jail?[/QUOTE]
hell.... i was in a holding cell for 12 hours and i was bugging out, i think it was just the whole idea that i might have to be there for a while that scared me. It was cool though i had a drunk homeless guy Reassure me that i would be out within a few hours......:D
[QUOTE=DatDudeD]hell.... i was in a holding cell for 12 hours and i was bugging out, i think it was just the whole idea that i might have to be there for a while that scared me. It was cool though i had a drunk homeless guy Reassure me that i would be out within a few hours......:D[/QUOTE]
Yeah this is sort of my point. While the two circumstances are entirely different, your reaction and attitude might be the same. On one hand you know there will be a positive outcome (money), and on the other you have no idea, but it's primarily negative. However, the realization of having your every day freedoms taken away from you for a certain amount of time is gut wrenching.
This is why I pose the question. If some of us that have been locked up were freaking out after a few hours or days, imagine a year. I have a strong belief that the feeling of hopelessness would come around in either situation.
There are people in prison who have done it for years.
[QUOTE=AirGauge23]There are people in prison who have done it for years.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah of course, but that's entirely different. They have no other choice. I'm sure they all freaked out at one point or another. Those that are stuck there are just used to it by now. The issue here is, how many of us can hack it without going crazy in the process?
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Well yeah of course, but that's entirely different. They have no other choice. I'm sure they all freaked out at one point or another. Those that are stuck there are just used to it by now. The issue here is, how many of us can hack it without going crazy in the process?[/QUOTE]
They give them meds to keep them under control.
If that was part of the equation here, it would make it more tempting.
[QUOTE=AirGauge23]There are people in prison who have done it for years.[/QUOTE]
Except for most of them get lunch\other prisoners etc. Unless your talking about the hole or another part but even than would somebody actually be stuck in a room for a full year without any breaks or talking to anyone? I doubt it but not really sure.
I'd attempt it but fail. I'd go insane. You'd need atleast an Ipod or something. Sitting in a room doing nothing for that long would probably make you off yourself.
ahhhh so does this mean once you agree to go in, that there is no backing out of the deal at any point, even if you're forfeiting the cash?
this one thing aspect is HUGE. think about it....imagine if you were closterphobic and only found out once you were already locked up?
*Better state if this is a padded room or not because 1/4 of us would be bashing our heads in haha
Exercise could get you through it. If you happen to be religious and have memorized tons of prayers, that would help too.
[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]... On an island with no internet, TV or friends and without seeing anyone for a whole year for $10 Millions?
You would be provided with necessary food and all the necessary stuff to survive, just totally cut off from society in an empty room with no noise.
This is a question we got asked in one of our college classes for a study[/QUOTE]
I could and would do it for a million. I've taken trips alone to non-English speaking countries a couple of times already so I could definitely do something like this.
How many times do you think you'd jerk off? Sitting in a room alone for a year. That has some serious potential for 5+ a day :oldlol:
Here's a fairly interesting article (it's long): [url]http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_gawande[/url]
[QUOTE=NuggetsFan]How many times do you think you'd jerk off? Sitting in a room alone for a year. That has some serious potential for 5+ a day :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
No Internet, no TV for porn....gotta be very creative to jerk off to very limited resources. :lol
Can I at least go outside to shoot some hoops or can they bring in a hoop in my room lol. I go crazy if I dont hoop for a week.
A little excerpt from that article:
"The rules also permitted him to have a radio after thirty days, and, after sixty days, a thirteen-inch black-and-white television.
That's lot harder than it seems. Most people will go completely nuts after a year in a room with no sound, daylight and sense of time.
Hell, convicts break down after a month in isolation
I do a lot of driving, and even 3-4 hour road trips by myself make me go crazy sometimes.
Too much time to think is a horrible thing for me.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Question. For those that think they can hack it, have any of you ever been locked up? Prison? Jail?[/QUOTE]
basically this. i've done a couple years. never been to prison but have over 3 years of wasted days and wasted nights of my life gone in the county jail.
Not 3 years straight, but 3 years of my life. in and out, in and out. it's a messed up cycle when your caught up in the system and everytime you get released you know your basically on the run until you get busted again. No proper place to go, so you so what you know how to do. you go where you know you can go. Selling Meth guys. Meth is a horrible thing. When I was 18 I got snitched on and got locked up for sales of a controlled substance (meth) and possession of a controlled substance. (meth) Both felonies. I got a year in the county. You do only 2/3rds of your time. So 8 months bro. (after that it was probation violation after violation. Racking up new charges randomly and never reporting. running the streets. In jail for 6 months here then 30 days here then 4 months there... it was ridiculous.
I wasted 10 years of my life really.
(3 locked up and about 7 just out of my
mind smoking meth and selling drugs.)
What I'm trying to say is.. I don't know if any of you really know what it's like to lose your freedom. It's a hard thing to accept. I've been in trouble inside jail too. I've been to "the hole" I got 10 days in the hole once. It's not a hole, it's just another cell. It sucks man. Yes you stare at the walls, but even then you get 15 minutes for a shower every other day and you can talk to people through the walls and what not. I'm calling bull-sh*t on all of you kids that are acting like this would be no problem. Esp. without human interaction. In jail it was WAY easier than the scenario described in this thread. In jail you have books, paper, pen, commisary, t.v., phones, visits, jobs (kitchen/laundry/janitorial crew .. etc. .) to keep you busy and get into a program to get you through. A routine. . without a great routine to keep yourself busy . . man there is no way . . . I'm saying nah man I couldn't/wouldn't want to do it.
(I'm coming up on 5 years clean next march. been out of jail for 5 years.
my life is better now in case you were wondering ....