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Can someone update this please ?
[QUOTE=ashbelly]Can someone update this please ?[/QUOTE]
Gonna have to wait for tomorrow.
Don't think they update today's games so soon.
[QUOTE=ashbelly]Can someone update this please ?[/QUOTE]
Is this what you cling on to everyday? Wade having better stats than kobe? :oldlol:
[QUOTE=ashbelly]Can someone update this please ?[/QUOTE]
:applause: Wade continuing to prove he is the best player in the league.
Had to carry Prince James tonight, feel bad for him.
Both are close, but they've played better than Lebron so Far.
Kobe is playing the least amount of minutes out of Lebron, Wade, and Kobe. So you have to take that into consideration.
Kobe also only played like 16 minutes a game in the preseason due to his knee-injury.
Given Kobe's age, Longer Playoff Run, Knee Surgery, and playing time. It's amazing he's even in the discussion with Wade right now.
Wade should be playing better than Kobe this season, Wade is right in the middle of his athletic prime, while Kobe has left his like 3 years ago.
Kobe will only get better as this season progresses. Wade had a whole summer to practice and work on his game. Kobe couldn't because he had knee surgery.
Wade is slightly better, but not much. As Kobe's health improves, his minutes and stats will go up.
[QUOTE=laronprofit9]Both are close, but they've played better than Lebron so Far.
Kobe is playing the least amount of minutes out of Lebron, Wade, and Kobe. So you have to take that into consideration.
Kobe also only played like 16 minutes a game in the preseason due to his knee-injury.
Given Kobe's age, Longer Playoff Run, Knee Surgery, and playing time. It's amazing he's even in the discussion with Wade right now.
Wade should be playing better than Kobe this season, Wade is right in the middle of his athletic prime, while Kobe has left his like 3 years ago.
Kobe will only get better as this season progresses. Wade had a whole summer to practice and work on his game. Kobe couldn't because he had knee surgery.
Wade is slightly better, but not much. As Kobe's health improves, his minutes and stats will go up.[/QUOTE]
Wade didnt play in the Preseason at all due to the hamstring, he had a horrible game against boston and has played alot of tough teams compared to what kobe has played against. Clearly Wade >>> Kobe.
[QUOTE=ashbelly]Wade didnt play in the Preseason at all due to the hamstring, he had a horrible game against boston and has played alot of tough teams compared to what kobe has played against. Clearly Wade >>> Kobe.[/QUOTE]
Wade>>>>Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Prince James.
[QUOTE=ashbelly]Wade didnt play in the Preseason at all due to the hamstring, he had a horrible game against boston and has played alot of tough teams compared to what kobe has played against. Clearly Wade >>> Kobe.[/QUOTE]
A full Summer of practice and being healthy>>>6 preseason games.
Wade is 29, Kobe is 32.
Also why is Wade averaging more minutes than Kobe? If he's not as healthy as Kobe?
Give me the one that didn't shoot 1-13 against the Pacers. :oldlol: Oh and give me the one that doesn't have an 8-6 record, but instead has a 12-2 record.
Kobe Bryant, all day, everyday, even on Sundays.
[QUOTE=TDPrime2030]Give me the one that didn't shoot 1-13 against the Pacers. :oldlol: Oh and give me the one that doesn't have an 8-6 record, but instead has a 12-2 record.
Kobe Bryant, all day, everyday, even on Sundays.[/QUOTE]
Manu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe
[QUOTE=SAKOTXA]There's a reason why this thread was made today...[/QUOTE]
There's a reason this thread was bumped today...
Kobe Bryant: 25.6 PPG | 6.3 REB | 4.8 AST | 43 % FG | 30.2 %3PT | 88.5 %FT | 1.0 STL | 2.9 TO in 32.6 minutes
Dwyane Wade: 21.3 PPG | 5.6 REB | 3.6 AST | 45.3 % FG | 27.5 %3PT | 71.5 %FT | 1.3 STL | 3.3 TO in 35 minutes
[QUOTE=TDPrime2030]Give me the one that didn't shoot 1-13 against the Pacers. :oldlol: Oh and give me the one that doesn't have an 8-6 record, but instead has a 12-2 record.
Kobe Bryant, all day, everyday, even on Sundays.[/QUOTE]
Damn you might have trouble grasping the concept of D12 > Yao, but you 100% spot on with this one homie.
[QUOTE=ImmortalD24]Kobe Bryant: 25.6 PPG | 6.3 REB | 4.8 AST | 43 % FG | 30.2 %3PT | 88.5 %FT | 1.0 STL | 2.9 TO in 32.6 minutes
Dwyane Wade: 21.3 PPG | 5.6 REB | 3.6 AST | 45.3 % FG | 27.5 %3PT | 71.5 %FT | 1.3 STL | 3.3 TO in 35 minutes[/QUOTE]
Is this including Wades 3 point game as well?
[QUOTE=Lakers13]Is this including Wades 3 point game as well?[/QUOTE]
yep..
i dont like Kobe but he's better than Wade and has been since Wade was born
:oldlol: whose better now? What was that 3 points on 13 shots?:lol
It's hard to say at this point. Kobe has been slowly recovering from off-season knee surgery while Wade has been trying to mesh with LeBron and Bosh. Like always, this discussion should be held after the playoffs.
[QUOTE=PowerGlove]There's a reason this thread was bumped today...[/QUOTE]
And the reason for that reason is the reason the thread was made in the first place. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]Dwyane Wade- 24.1 PPG 6.6 RPG 3.7 APG 1.7 SPG 1.1 BPG 49% FG, 38% 3PT, 78% FT 33 MPG
Kobe Bryant- 22.9 PPG 5.8 RPG 4.7 APG .9 SPG .3 BPG 44% FG 88% FT 33% 3PT 31 MPG
Who has been better? Of course Wade has the luxury of playing with LeBron and Chris Bosh, but Kobe has the luxury of playing with Pau, Lamar, Barnes, and Artest. Heat are 5-2 and Lakers are 7-0, but I think that's mostly because Heat are still getting to play together for the first time, and LAL has been a powerhouse for the past 3 years. At the end of the year, Heat should have a better record, but now that's irrelevant.
Who has been playing better SO FAR this year?[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="White"]there u go[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=ImmortalD24]Kobe Bryant: 25.6 PPG | 6.3 REB | 4.8 AST | 43 % FG | 30.2 %3PT | 88.5 %FT | 1.0 STL | 2.9 TO in 32.6 minutes
Dwyane Wade: 21.3 PPG | 5.6 REB | 3.6 AST | 45.3 % FG | 27.5 %3PT | 71.5 %FT | 1.3 STL | 3.3 TO in 35 minutes[/QUOTE]
what discussion? Kobe is better, and its not about numbers, wade is great but i will take kobe over any player in the nba today.
Lebron is ruining Wade's potential right now. They better figure out how to play together or this will be one big failure.
I was Wade's fan since his first year in the league, I have never seen him playing like this. 1/13, 3pts in 40mins. I can't simply believe it.
@white mamba- maybe 5 years ago, but right now I would take at least 7 players over him.
[QUOTE=White Mamba]what discussion? Kobe is better, and its not about numbers, wade is great but i will take kobe over any player in the nba today.[/QUOTE]
Really could Kobe of won 47 games with last years heat could he 61 games with last years cavs?
[QUOTE=Ikill]Really could Kobe of won 47 games with last years heat could he 61 games with last years cavs?[/QUOTE]
put kobe in the east and see what happens
[QUOTE=Ikill]Really could Kobe of won 47 games with last years heat could he 61 games with last years cavs?[/QUOTE]
uh... kobe would've easily won 50 games with the heat last year. How come everyone always forgets that kobe plays in a conference that is twice as hard? The east is weak as hell man.
[QUOTE=Ikill]Really could Kobe of won 47 games with last years heat could he 61 games with last years cavs?[/QUOTE]
He won 45 games with Luke Walton, Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown and Lamar Odom as his primary role players; is this a joke?
None of those players besides Odom are getting more then 5 MPG anywhere in this league, Wade had MUCH better teammates around him last year...just look at what Beasley is doing in Minnesota.
[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]It's hard to say at this point. Kobe has been slowly recovering from off-season knee surgery while Wade has been trying to mesh with LeBron and Bosh. Like always, this discussion should be held after the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
Well, this is true for determining who is better period, but the thread is designed to keep current with the Wade vs. Kobe discussion, so this discussion is valid. Through, this type of thread tend to lead to trolling since this thread is only bumped when one or the other player falls short in one game.
[QUOTE=crosso√er]He won 45 games with Luke Walton, Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown and Lamar Odom as his primary role players; is this a joke?
None of those players besides Odom are getting more then 5 MPG anywhere in this league, Wade had MUCH better teammates around him last year...just look at what Beasley is doing in Minnesota.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about right now Kobe is not even close to the player he used to be
[QUOTE=Ikill]I'm talking about right now Kobe is not even close to the player he used to be[/QUOTE]
oh really?
[QUOTE=tpols]uh... kobe would've easily won 50 games with the heat last year. How come everyone always forgets that kobe plays in a conference that is twice as hard? The east is weak as hell man.[/QUOTE]
Plus he squeezed 45 wins in 06 with Smush Parker, Kwame Brown as starters with significant minutes given to Cook/George/Walton. Aside from Lamar Odom and Bryant, that roster was an abomination.
[QUOTE=Ikill]I'm talking about right now Kobe is not even close to the player he used to be[/QUOTE]
Kobe as not as athletic as he was back in 06' but he is a lot more mature; making better decisions with the ball etc.
Kobe is putting up 26/6/5 in 32 MPG; per 48 minutes he's putting up better all around numbers then in 2006.
Last year Kobe could have won 47 games with Beasley, Haslem, Jermain etc. as his role players, give me some evidence to the contrary...
He has done as well as Wade (in a tougher conference) before, with inferior teammates; including a near upset over the #1 ranked Suns team.
[QUOTE=justin43]Well, this is true for determining who is better period, but the thread is designed to keep current with the Wade vs. Kobe discussion, so this discussion is valid. Through, this type of thread tend to lead to trolling since this thread is only bumped when one or the other player falls short in one game.[/QUOTE]
Okay. Then at this point in the season, Wade is the better player. He's more explosive and his ability to break down defenses is unmatched.
As for Kobe, we haven't really seen what he's capable of yet. He's had some very good games, but the Lakers haven't needed him (which is fine with me, since I want him healthy for the playoffs).
[QUOTE=Ikill]Really could Kobe of won 47 games with last years heat could he 61 games with last years cavs?[/QUOTE]
Which Kobe? 2005-2006? 2007-2008? He could definitely win 47 with the Heat's roster, but I doubt he would have won 61 with the Cavaliers.
Thank you for proving my point. You guys SWORE I made this thread to bash Kobe, when I clearly did not. Right now Dwyane Wade is playing like a unmotivated brat, while Kobe is ripping shit. Kobe is clearly superior as of right now.
But nooooo, I made this thread because Kobe had a bad shooting night the day before, :rolleyes: idiots.
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Per 36 Minutes Stats:[/B][/U]
Kobe
28.4 ppg 6.9 rpg 5.2 apg
Wade
23.7 ppg 5.9 rpg 3.6 apg
Kobe's been playing Ginobli Minutes, but keeping his stats at Starter Minutes.
[QUOTE=crosso√er]He won 45 games with Luke Walton, Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown and Lamar Odom as his primary role players; is this a joke?
None of those players besides Odom are getting more then 5 MPG anywhere in this league, Wade had MUCH better teammates around him last year...just look at what Beasley is doing in Minnesota.[/QUOTE]
And this was during one of the most competitive Western Conferences in recent memory. I remember during one of those seasons the 1st seed and 8th seed were separated by like 1-2 games for a while.
[B]Dwyane Wade[/B]- 21.1 PPG | 5.7 REB | 3.7 AST | 43.7 FG% |24.4 3PT% | 71.6 FT% | 1.2 STL | 3.1 TO | 35.4 MIN
[B]Team Record: 8-7[/B]
[B]Kobe Bryant[/B] - 25.3 PPG | 6.0 REB | 4.8 AST | 43.1 FG% | 30.8 3PT% | 88.8 FT% | 1.0 STL | 3.0 TO | 32.9 MIN
[B]Team Record: 13-2[/B]
[QUOTE=laronprofit9][U][B]
Per 36 Minutes Stats:[/B][/U]
Kobe
28.4 ppg 6.9 rpg 5.2 apg
Wade
23.7 ppg 5.9 rpg 3.6 apg
Kobe's been playing Ginobli Minutes, but keeping his stats at Starter Minutes.[/QUOTE]
you can't use per 36 stats because wade is basically play 36 minutes per game where kobe is playing less minutes so he gets a boost from the per 36 that wade doesn't...
i guess it's ok if you want to further an agenda or muddy the waters but it's not a fair comparison
[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]Thank you for proving my point. You guys SWORE I made this thread to bash Kobe, when I clearly did not. Right now Dwyane Wade is playing like a unmotivated brat, while Kobe is ripping shit. Kobe is clearly superior as of right now.
But nooooo, I made this thread because Kobe had a bad shooting night the day before, :rolleyes: idiots.[/QUOTE]
lol you made this when wade was at his peak for this season. :oldlol:
If anything we should be laughing at you now because it blew up in your face two weeks later.
[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]Thank you for proving my point. You guys SWORE I made this thread to bash Kobe, when I clearly did not. Right now Dwyane Wade is playing like a unmotivated brat, while Kobe is ripping shit. Kobe is clearly superior as of right now.
But nooooo, I made this thread because Kobe had a bad shooting night the day before, :rolleyes: idiots.[/QUOTE]
This Fool calling people Idiot when he thinks LeBron and Wade are the best player :facepalm Fail in so many ways