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I don't know if I'd go so far as to say his actions were "inexcusable," but it did go on way longer than it should have. Even after the dunk he was giving the stink eye and looking like he was going to start snapping necks. I'm all for emotion in the game, but after awhile it started getting ridiculous.
if you get punked by a rookie, then who's really the punk? :confusedshrug:
obviously blake means more to that team than being just a rookie
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[QUOTE=Burgz]if you get punked by a rookie, then who's really the punk? :confusedshrug:
obviously blake means more to that team than being just a rookie
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Your initials are OP? Interesting. Lemme guess, your name is Oscar Pedophile? I agree, you are a *******.
BTW, Blake picked on the smallest guy on the court. You don't think Bron wasn't chirping? When you go after the smallest guy on the court, who's really the punk:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]I don't know if I'd go so far as to say his actions were "inexcusable," but it did go on way longer than it should have. Even after the dunk he was giving the stink eye and looking like he was going to start snapping necks. I'm all for emotion in the game, but after awhile it started getting ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Maybe inexcusable was too much to say, more like intolreable?
[quote=DaHeezy]Your initials are OP? Interesting. Lemme guess, your name is Oscar Pedophile? I agree, you are a *******.
BTW, Blake picked on the smallest guy on the court. You don't think Bron wasn't chirping? [B]When you go after the smallest guy on the court, who's really the punk:confusedshrug:[/B][/quote]
KG
[QUOTE=Rake2204]I do not believe a rookie should be restricted from partaking in any action on the basketball court. If his argument was incorrect then I believe it would be incorrect for anyone, not just rookies. I do not believe in having to have a certain number of years experience in order to get into a scuffle on the hardwood.[/QUOTE]
this. It doesnt matter if hes a rook or not. Being a 10 yr vet didnt make KG's dog move any less classless or pathetic.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]It was more forcasting posters like you with no sense of comprehension, class, or maturity. Thank you for fufilling my premonition.[/QUOTE]
you come across like a total jackhole in this thread. Just so you know.
[QUOTE=boozehound]you come across like a total jackhole in this thread. Just so you know.[/QUOTE]
In what sense? The guy calls me an idiot and I can't retaliate?
I've been mature when responded to maturely. You wouldn't be a little snippy if being provoked? C'mon now, I've seen less said to you and you've reacted.
As for the OP it was more to deter guys like that from entering and being bias. I knew I was going to cath flack from Griffin supporters missing the entire point of the thread.
NBA is a business and results are all that matter in business. Griffin gets it done every night on the freaking Clippers, its his team, he will be the All Star. Chalmers is nothing.
[QUOTE=samballs]NBA is a business and results are all that matter in business. Griffin gets it done every night on the freaking Clippers, its his team, he will be the All Star. Chalmers is nothing.[/QUOTE]
I agree
[QUOTE]In what sense? The guy calls me an idiot and I can't retaliate?
I've been mature when responded to maturely. You wouldn't be a little snippy if being provoked? C'mon now, I've seen less said to you and you've reacted.
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Maybe that is how Griffen felt. Can't the guy be a little snippy in a basketball game and not get crapped on by fans. Seems like the same thing to me, just different situations. Maybe this should be enough to make you realize that this was overacting on your part to even make this thread.
lol that was absolutely nothing. Overreact much?
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]Rooks should have more class. Have a few more miles in the league before you try and pick fights on the court.[/QUOTE]And Chalmers has achieved what on the court to run his mouth and then ask for respect from a rookie? Being picked in the second round of the draft 3 years ago?
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]The guy calls me an idiot and I can't retaliate? You wouldn't be a little snippy if being provoked?[/QUOTE]Now try to apply what you just said to the Griffin-Chalmers incident.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]In what sense? The guy calls me an idiot and I can't retaliate?
I've been mature when responded to maturely. You wouldn't be a little snippy if being provoked? C'mon now, I've seen less said to you and you've reacted.
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I have to say this excerpt is at least a little ironic, considering the topic at hand.
And yes, I agree, I'm not sure if scuffles in basketball are ever necessary. But they happen. I know your argument is that rookies should not provoke them, but I'm not sure anyone should. I'm also not entirely sure we can directly compare professional basketball to say, professional teaching. In one of those arenas I can dunk on my coworkers. In the other, it is largely frowned upon.
[QUOTE=Phong]And Chalmers has achieved what on the court to run his mouth and then ask for respect from a rookie? Being picked in the second round in the draft?
[B]Now try to apply what you just said to the Griffin-Chalmers incident.[/B][/QUOTE]
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[quote=lil_watz]Maybe that is how Griffen felt. Can't the guy be a little snippy in a basketball game and not get crapped on by fans. Seems like the same thing to me, just different situations. Maybe this should be enough to make you realize that this was overacting on your part to even make this thread.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=DaHeezy]In what sense? The guy calls me an idiot and I can't retaliate?
I've been mature when responded to maturely. You wouldn't be a little snippy if being provoked? C'mon now, I seen less said to you and you've reacted. [/QUOTE]
And here is where your argument shoots itself in the foot.
[I]You[/I], the might 'DaHeezy' can retaliate to someone getting into your face, but god forbid Blake Griffin does because it shows 'immaturity and the inability to control himself.' Double standard, much?
Somewhere in this thread you said that Chalmers had nothing to do with this thread's inception.... again, another dissatisfying load of shit. If Chalmers doesn't open his mouth, Griffin doesn't have to go off on him and act all 'irresponsibly.'
Please run over to the NBA site and show me the rule where Griffin is not allowed to defend himself, and if he is, that he should defend himself in a manner similar to what you outlined. Have you ever played a competitive team sport? Hell, have you ever been as [B]good[/B] as Griffin was at anything in your life? Griffin's mental age is much higher than his physical one, and I'm sure this is painstakingly obvious to you. Griffin has the mind of a veteran- it is what makes him so good. So if Mario thinks that he can harass Griffin merely because he's "younger", well... there's always something to be said about finding out the hard way.
On that note, this pseudo veteran-superiority bullshit is just that: [U]bullshit[/U]. I don't remember people going off on Bynum for getting in Shaq's face after he got jammed on. If someone gets in your grill, you man up and settle it on the court, which Griffin did.
gg, OP.
If the heat think he is in violation of some rook rule, they can enforce the rule. Even if it is just some junk they made up. Bad Boy pistons would have. It is on them.
Blake Griffin did what any leader do. Take no shit and back up his teammates.
I've watched every Clipper game this year. Blake has been attacked by many players and is being hit so hard it's only natural he is going to go chest to chest with many players. Apparently you didn't see what went down between him and Gortat who is bigger than him. Gortat was playing him very rough and hitting him all game long and there was a lot of talk. Blake took it to Gortat and scored and left Gortot injured on the ground and Blake stayed standing over him looked down and said "get up, get up, get up", he had to be told by teammates to just let it go. He is very emotional on the court.
Blake is getting a lot of FT's but trust me, he deserves a ton more, he is getting hacked all game long and not getting the superstar respect from the refs yet.
Not since Shaq, Yao and Dwight have a seen a player get clobbered as often as Blake does. To imply that Blake only went after Mario because he was small is ridiculous, you haven't watched him play this year and seen what opposition is doing to him.
I became a fan. Any player that will directly back his shit up like that--I dig.
So a 6'10" 280lb PF should back down to a 6'1" 180lb PG because he's a rookie? :oldlol:
The only guy even physically capable of checking Griffin last night was LeBron... and LeBron wanted no part of it. In fact, LeBron didn't even show up last night... must have had a wild night.
Heres the video and in HD: [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBZBYBlsRtc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBZBYBlsRtc[/URL]
Looking back at it, seems like Chalmers was even more annoying than I first thought. Annoying midget.
[QUOTE=Fiasco]And here is where your argument shoots itself in the foot.
[I]You[/I], the might 'DaHeezy' can retaliate to someone getting into your face, but god forbid Blake Griffin does because it shows 'immaturity and the inability to control himself.' Double standard, much?
Somewhere in this thread you said that Chalmers had nothing to do with this thread's inception.... again, another dissatisfying load of shit. If Chalmers doesn't open his mouth, Griffin doesn't have to go off on him and act all 'irresponsibly.'
Please run over to the NBA site and show me the rule where Griffin is not allowed to defend himself, and if he is, that he should defend himself in a manner similar to what you outlined. Have you ever played a competitive team sport? Hell, have you ever been as [B]good[/B] as Griffin was at anything in your life? Griffin's mental age is much higher than his physical one, and I'm sure this is painstakingly obvious to you. Griffin has the mind of a veteran- it is what makes him so good. So if Mario thinks that he can harass Griffin merely because he's "younger", well... there's always something to be said about finding out the hard way.
On that note, this pseudo veteran-superiority bullshit is just that: [U]bullshit[/U]. I don't remember people going off on Bynum for getting in Shaq's face after he got jammed on. If someone gets in your grill, you man up and settle it on the court, which Griffin did.
gg, OP.[/QUOTE]
OP lost this one.
As long as Blake continues to play like he does he can do whatever the **** he likes for all I care.
[QUOTE=Phong]And Chalmers has achieved what on the court to run his mouth and then ask for respect from a rookie? Being picked in the second round of the draft 3 years ago?
Now try to apply what you just said to the Griffin-Chalmers incident.[/QUOTE]
Yet I'm being chastised for defending myself? If I should apply it so should everybody else.
I should get Blake like praise. Be consistent people
Again, I'm going to repeat this after everybody who keeps defending Blake,
If it were any other player... This is not about Blake/Chalmers, it was only an example I used
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]I believe in sticking up for yourself, I don' think Blake should get a free pass in this situation when if it were nay other rookie, it's inexcusable.
But even going back to regular sports, I do believe in sticking up for yourself, but for a rookie, or evena freshman, there is still a level on respect and class you should show on the court, this holds higher once you reach a more professional level. Play harder sure, but when you're a newb, regress.[/QUOTE]
Respect is a 2 way street buddy. Things get heated sometimes and using the excuse of Rookies should respect the elder is getting old. Respect the elder on your team but treat all your opponents the same.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]This in no slight to his game, which I know some of you idiots will take this thread for, but never should a rook come hard like that on the court. Any other rookie would have gotten murked for acting the same way.
I know alot of you are so far up Griffin's a-hole that you'll stick up for him, but what if that was Empke Udoh or Evan Turner? You'd probably think he was a douche for pulling the same thing. Rooks should have more class. Have a few more miles in the league before you try and pick fights on the court.[/QUOTE]
Geez dude, take a pill and stop the testosterone injections. Why so angry at the world? That's the one thing I dislike about this forum ~ so much mean-spirited arguing and bitching. :facepalm
It wasn't some ridiculously criminal thing we should all be upset over...it was just a shove in the open court and he ended up getting a technical for the entire incident. Pretty sure he didn't shove Chalmers thinking that he'd just get back up and be like "LOL U FUNNY BLAYK"...he provoked a reaction and got himself T'd up in the process.
As for Blake's reaction, I'm guessing he was pissed because he kept getting fouled and almost never got the calls. It was getting ridiculous.
If this was a re-occurring problem, then I could see an issue. Its not like this guy is being like Demarcus Cousins. But this guy is very well mannered on the court. He doesn't get into may altercations. He lets his game speak for himself. You can see he is very confident but who wouldn't in his situation?
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]Yet I'm being chastised for defending myself? If I should apply it so should everybody else.
I should get Blake like praise. Be consistent people
Again, I'm going to repeat this after everybody who keeps defending Blake,
If it were any other player... This is not about Blake/Chalmers, it was only an example I used[/QUOTE]
You're getting chastised because you're being a hypocrite. Not because what you're doing is wrong.
@ OP :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
There was nothing especially wrong with what Griffin did. He got angry, had some words, and stared after a dunk. He didn't throw a punch, push, or even cheapshot elbow Chalmers. And what has Chalmers done to earn "vet respect" or whatever? Second-year back-up pg on a team with weak pg play. The only reason why Griffin maybe should have held his tongue is the technical, but no one goes through their career with no techs.
If that had been a guy like Shaq or LBJ that he was going at I'd respect it even more. Those guys are big enough to give Griffin a fight (Chalmers isn't, though players shouldn't get into fights anyway) and the fact thatey're established and respected means it takes more courage to stand up to them.
Just to make it clear, Griffin should not be getting into fights, the NBA punishes players too severely for stuff like that and the Clips are bad enough without losing Griffin for 15 games. But as a big, strong physical power forward he should not take shit from anyone, no matter how old he is, they are, or whatever. That just doesn't make sense. Avoid getting suspended but absolutely do not back down.
[QUOTE=Fiasco]You're getting chastised because you're being a hypocrite. Not because what you're doing is wrong.[/QUOTE]
Wrong, I was being attacked way before being called a hypocrite. I'll accept being called that after the fact, but it's just as hypocritical to attack me for standing up for myself and my opinion. Think about it
every1 keeps talking about how rookies should show respect based on age or class which is fine as long as it's some1 of the same skill level... How about Chalmers shows some respect based on talent (which IMO is worth more) because he doesn't have nearly half of what my boy Blake got!!
How can you disagree with that? It's not like Blake started it... He just stood up for himself to a player who has way less talent then him... Blake's year > Mario Chalmer's entire career! shiiiit blake's highlights > anything Chalmers has ever done
Even though he's a rookie, he already shows more of a veteran presence than 75% of the league.
[QUOTE=Fiasco]And here is where your argument shoots itself in the foot.
[I]You[/I], the might 'DaHeezy' can retaliate to someone getting into your face, but god forbid Blake Griffin does because it shows 'immaturity and the inability to control himself.' Double standard, much?
Somewhere in this thread you said that Chalmers had nothing to do with this thread's inception.... again, another dissatisfying load of shit. If Chalmers doesn't open his mouth, Griffin doesn't have to go off on him and act all 'irresponsibly.'
Please run over to the NBA site and show me the rule where Griffin is not allowed to defend himself, and if he is, that he should defend himself in a manner similar to what you outlined. Have you ever played a competitive team sport? Hell, have you ever been as [B]good[/B] as Griffin was at anything in your life? Griffin's mental age is much higher than his physical one, and I'm sure this is painstakingly obvious to you. Griffin has the mind of a veteran- it is what makes him so good. So if Mario thinks that he can harass Griffin merely because he's "younger", well... there's always something to be said about finding out the hard way.
On that note, this pseudo veteran-superiority bullshit is just that: [U]bullshit[/U]. I don't remember people going off on Bynum for getting in Shaq's face after he got jammed on. If someone gets in your grill, you man up and settle it on the court, which Griffin did.
gg, OP.[/QUOTE]
Touche, I'll respond to this when I have the time
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]Touche, I'll respond to this when I have the time[/QUOTE]
Save yourself the trouble and pretend like you never created this thread.
lol, what is with this thread? Chalmers was the one starting shit. Griffin is supposed to act like a p[I]u[/I]ssy when someone gets in his face because he's a rookie? No.