Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..

Although I do believe Walsh wants to get Melo....another reason for Knicks to get involved is simply to force Nets to give up more for Carmelo. Nuggets and Knicks both have interest in seeing Nets weakened as much as possible, even if Nets do snag Melo. So Denver and NY can work together to make that happen.

I mean, I'm not saying this whole Walsh trying to get Mayo for Melo is BS, but it would be a smart move nonetheless if it was.

i actually think the knicks should give up chandler and gallo, but keep fields for our 2 guard position, he can be valuable still with getting to loose bals, and we wont need to require him to shoot the ball much unless he gets a nice open shot (which he will get alot of i believe)

Seriously pple, we get melo now and we can build our team as it goes along. There will be veterans looking for jobs this offseason where we can split our midlevel since we wont be below the cap. But melo felton and amare is a good foundation to start a new team.

If we can get Melo, send either gallo/chandler to memphis
then send the other remaining to denver
memphis sends mayo to denver
we give up our 2014 pick
trade randolph for another pick (if required)
send curry packing
and try and land a 2nd player to help out the roster a bit ( most preferable a agile center)
we would be looking decent.

shawn williams is proving to himself that he belongs
we can develop mozgov as it comes
turiaf is a good backup
azuibuke may come back after a long stint on the disabled (and trust me if hes 100%, this guy can really play)

I would be happy with a deal giving up chandler and gallo. But hopefully we can keep fields out of any deal

[QUOTE=bagelred]Although I do believe Walsh wants to get Melo....another reason for Knicks to get involved is simply to force Nets to give up more for Carmelo. Nuggets and Knicks both have interest in seeing Nets weakened as much as possible, even if Nets do snag Melo. So Denver and NY can work together to make that happen.

I mean, I'm not saying this whole Walsh trying to get Mayo for Melo is BS, but it would be a smart move nonetheless if it was.[/QUOTE]

I agree.

[QUOTE=bluechox2]i actually think the knicks shuld give up chandler and gallo, but keep fields for our 2 guard position, he can be valuable still with getting to loose bals, and we wont need to require him to shoot the ball much unless he gets a nice open shot (which he will get alot of i believe)

Serioulsy pple, we get melo now and we can build our team as it goes along. There will be veterans looking for jobs this offseason where we can split our midlevel since we wont be below the cap. But melo felton and amare is a good foundation to start a new team.

If we can get Melo, send either gallo/chandler to memphis
then send the other remaining to denver
memphis sends mayo to denver
we give up our 2014 pick
trade randolph for another pick (if required)
send curry packing
and try and land a 2nd player to help out the roster a bit ( most preferabble a agile center)
we would be looking decent.

shawn williams is proving to himself that he belongs
we can develop mozgov as it comes
turiaf is a good backup

I would be happy with a deal giving up chandler and gallo. But hopefullywe can keep fields out of any deal[/QUOTE]

Well,I wouldn't like to lose both Chandler and Gallinari but if we bring Melo and a defensive center then we would be contenders.

Felton
Fields
Anthony
Stoudemire
Defensive center

I would like to keep Chandler/Gallo because we need a strong bench to make something big.

chandler/gallo - yea sure we can wait for them but amare aint getting any younger. and who knows how his knee will hold up in 2 or 3 years.

and were talking about possibly getting a player who can easily drop 30ppg a night as he has proven. a player that denver even doesn't want to trade but unfortunately has to...and knicks fans are pretending they dont need him

[QUOTE=bluechox2]chandler/gallo - yea sure we can wait for them but amare aint getting any younger. and who knows how his knee will hold up in 2 or 3 years.

and were talking about possibly getting a player who can easily drop 30ppg a night as he has proven. a player that denver even doesn't want to trade but unfortunately has to...and knicks fans are pretending they dont need him[/QUOTE]

We need Melo but we also need a defensive center and it would be nice (if it's possible) to keep Chandler or Gallo in the team who will make a big impact from the bench.

[QUOTE=VishaltotheG]An endless supply of Gino's East[/QUOTE]
:eek:

I think anyone that has eaten Gino's would agree to that trade.

I don't want Mayo. His problem is that he doesn't get enough shots. That wouldn't change at all in NY, we're better off with Fields (though Mayo is the better player). Scoring aside and the minimum playmaking he'd do with Felton on the bench, Fields is the much better player.

[QUOTE=Snoop_Cat]I don't want Mayo. His problem is that he doesn't get enough shots. That wouldn't change at all in NY, we're better off with Fields (though Mayo is the better player). Scoring aside and the minimum playmaking he'd do with Felton on the bench, Fields is the much better player.[/QUOTE]

We would not get Mayo,we would send Mayo along with someone else to Denver for Carmelo Anthony.

Btw,I like your nick
Snoop_Cat :lol

[QUOTE=Clutch]We would not get Mayo,we would send Mayo along with someone else to Denver for Carmelo Anthony.

Btw,I like your nick
Snoop_Cat :lol[/QUOTE]

That was in reference to Broussard's update about Mayo wanting to play for a winner like the Knicks, my fault for not being specific.

And thanks :D

I would like to see the Knicks trade for OJ Mayo, and keep him. He would thrive in Mike's system. I've had enough of all the Melo trade talk, please come up with something new. Media just keeps going with Melo this, Melo that.

[QUOTE=NY-Knicks]I would like to see the Knicks trade for OJ Mayo, and keep him. He would thrive in Mike's system. I've had enough of all the Melo trade talk, please come up with something new. Media just keeps going with Melo this, Melo that.[/QUOTE]

Mayo has potential but Melo is a proven star and we are certain that he would play well.

Taking OJ Mayo is a gamble and it's questionable will he ever be a player as good as Anthony.

[QUOTE=Da KO King]:eek:

I think anyone that has eaten Gino's would agree to that trade.[/QUOTE]
Would this be in Chicago? How are we trading it? :D And if it is in chicago bad on you because now i want it and i cannot have it...

True, if are going to trade for OJ, we might as well hold the Mayo.

Mayo's problem is his lack of focus, it would be much better if we had an OJ from concentrate.






I'm here all evening.......:pimp:

[QUOTE=bagelred]True, if are going to trade for OJ, we might as well hold the Mayo.

Mayo's problem is his lack of focus, it would be much better if we had an OJ from concentrate.






I'm here all evening.......:pimp:[/QUOTE]
It's morning.

And besides, I'm not gonna fall for that again!
I just stood in front of my freezer for 2 hours this morning, because the OJ said "concentrate".

[QUOTE=bagelred]True, if are going to trade for OJ, we might as well hold the Mayo.

Mayo's problem is his lack of focus, it would be much better if we had an OJ from concentrate.






I'm here all evening.......:pimp:[/QUOTE]

Crack is wack. Cocaine is better. :hammerhead:

i really hope the knicks find a way to get melo. it would be great for the league. i don't want to see melo waste his prime years on the nets. if he went to the knicks they could challenge for titles starting next year. with felton/melo/amare in place, the knicks could surround that with enough to challenge very quickly.

[QUOTE=ChuckOakley]It's morning.

And besides, I'm not gonna fall for that again!
I just stood in front of my freezer for 2 hours this morning, because the OJ said "concentrate".[/QUOTE]

i smell lawsuit.

[QUOTE=ginobli2311]i really hope the knicks find a way to get melo. it would be great for the league. i don't want to see melo waste his prime years on the nets. if he went to the knicks they could challenge for titles starting next year. with felton/melo/amare in place, the knicks could surround that with enough to challenge very quickly.[/QUOTE]
When the rumors started i thoguht DAMN, the nets will keep melo, still have Twill, Harris, all their cap space, picks. This sucks. Since then TWill (by trading for picks) Harris, and their cap space have all gone into the trade to bring back Harrington, Billups and Rip, making this 50 winish team with no title hopes at all. Now i'm either going to get him on Knicks, or he'll go to Nets and take them out of future moves, giving us more freedom.

It's much more relaxing than before. The move for Nets is Favors, Murphy and every single freaking pick instead of taking on Billups and Rip IMO but that doesn't seem to be what they or Nuggets twant to do.

[QUOTE=lilojmayo].



[url]http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard[/url]



You have got to be kidding me. Stop the madness OJ. Go to Denver get your stats man. Then talk about playing for a big market, not the other way around. What is his PR people telling him seriously.

Doesn't he realize that any situation for him is better than the one in Memphis?

And since when has Memphis been a winning situation.


Foolishness that's all I have to say.[/QUOTE]


While i agree, Mayo is a team first player despite how most people might think of him as a chucker from his rookie year. he's really matured a lot and is as unselfish as i've seen and plays to win. to me he's sort of like Quentin Richardson in their mentality where they're extremely unselfish if they're off or not getting the open shot, basically he's not the type that needs to get his from what i've seen. I think its one of the most misunderstood aspects of Mayo, since all he really wants to do is wiin games it seems. nevermind his own stats.

[QUOTE=niko]When the rumors started i thoguht DAMN, the nets will keep melo, still have Twill, Harris, all their cap space, picks. This sucks. Since then TWill (by trading for picks) Harris, and their cap space have all gone into the trade to bring back Harrington, Billups and Rip, making this 50 winish team with no title hopes at all. Now i'm either going to get him on Knicks, or he'll go to Nets and take them out of future moves, giving us more freedom.

It's much more relaxing than before. The move for Nets is Favors, Murphy and every single freaking pick instead of taking on Billups and Rip IMO but that doesn't seem to be what they or Nuggets twant to do.[/QUOTE]

if melo cares at all about winning....he won't go to the nets. there is no way in hell that team now or in the future is beating the heat or bulls or magic going forward. even if cp3 came over at some point....it still might not be good enough....and that is a big if.

melo should just put his foot down and say knicks or nothing. and if melo has to sign as a free agent. so be it. the difference in money could be about 15 to 20 million. and i'm not saying that isn't a lot of money. it is. but melo on the knicks could make at least half of that back through endorsements and exposure. and if the knicks were to make it far in the playoffs or win a title with melo.....he'd easily make that money back because he would be huge not just in NY but around the world.

so my guess is that melo would lose maybe 5 million at most of the contract terms if he doesn't get a deal done now. and that really isn't that bad of a situation because that prevents the knicks from having to gut their team to get him.

[QUOTE=ginobli2311]if melo cares at all about winning....he won't go to the nets. there is no way in hell that team now or in the future is beating the heat or bulls or magic going forward. even if cp3 came over at some point....it still might not be good enough....and that is a big if.

melo should just put his foot down and say knicks or nothing. and if melo has to sign as a free agent. so be it. the difference in money could be about 15 to 20 million. and i'm not saying that isn't a lot of money. it is. but melo on the knicks could make at least half of that back through endorsements and exposure. and if the knicks were to make it far in the playoffs or win a title with melo.....he'd easily make that money back because he would be huge not just in NY but around the world.

so my guess is that melo would lose maybe 5 million at most of the contract terms if he doesn't get a deal done now. and that really isn't that bad of a situation because that prevents the knicks from having to gut their team to get him.[/QUOTE]

it's funny, at first i was 90% sure Melo wouldn't agree to extension, and then this board and the 7,000 rumors made me 90% sure he would and now i'm wondering because as much as everyone rationalizes it, it's still strange that the Nets deals keep getting close, moving back, getting close, moving back, and now the Knicks appear to be creeping in. If the Knicks creep in, then i think there is some truth there because the Nuggets want no part of us.

I always thought any refusal of an extension was a ploy by Melo to give the Knicks leverage to trade for him so i think we owe it to him to at least make an effort to acquire him that way.

Its funny how this Melo trade has been like a horse race where now its like neck and neck between NY trade and NJ's proposed trades, where throughout its been a constant leader then falling behind, etc.

just funny where we're at now with NY and NJ having different trades and it can go either way now

Melo also could be trying to save face. Melo's getting alot of "he's only going to the Nets for the money" talk in the media.

Even if that's true, Melo doesn't want that to be the perception. So all of sudden we're hearing "Melo needs to be sold on New Jersey." I think that's being pushed by his PR people. And that's what will happen. The Russian and King will present to him, he'll ponder, and then finally say yes. Making it look like he's happy with Nets direction, as if its NOT about the money [I](even though we know it is).[/I]

That's just a guess, but that's what I think will happen.

[QUOTE=niko]it's funny, at first i was 90% sure Melo wouldn't agree to extension, and then this board and the 7,000 rumors made me 90% sure he would and now i'm wondering because as much as everyone rationalizes it, it's still strange that the Nets deals keep getting close, moving back, getting close, moving back, and now the Knicks appear to be creeping in. If the Knicks creep in, then i think there is some truth there because the Nuggets want no part of us.

I always thought any refusal of an extension was a ploy by Melo to give the Knicks leverage to trade for him so i think we owe it to him to at least make an effort to acquire him that way.[/QUOTE]

yea. melo is a superstar. he's 26 years old with half of his career left or more. it just seems silly to me that he'd be willing to go to a nets team just for a little extra money in the short term. it really doesn't make sense.

the nuggests have no leverage at all. if melo says "knicks or nothing"....then its on the nuggets. they either get something back....or let melo walk for nothing.

and like i said. it just seems silly to make this decision over the money difference when we all know that melo would reach a new level of star and earning power playing on the knicks.

[QUOTE=bagelred]Melo also could be trying to save face. Melo's getting alot of "he's only going to the Nets for the money" talk in the media.

Even if that's true, Melo doesn't want that to be the perception. So all of sudden we're hearing "Melo needs to be sold on New Jersey." I think that's being pushed by his PR people. And that's what will happen. The Russian and King will present to him, he'll ponder, and then finally say yes. Making it look like he's happy with Nets direction, as if its NOT about the money [I](even though we know it is).[/I]

That's just a guess, but that's what I think will happen.[/QUOTE]



That is what im thinking as well. At this point, im pretty sure Melo is going to be a Net.



And you know what? Thats fine. NY is shaping up to be a decent team without dude.

[QUOTE=bagelred]Melo also could be trying to save face. Melo's getting alot of "he's only going to the Nets for the money" talk in the media.

Even if that's true, Melo doesn't want that to be the perception. So all of sudden we're hearing "Melo needs to be sold on New Jersey." I think that's being pushed by his PR people. And that's what will happen. The Russian and King will present to him, he'll ponder, and then finally say yes. Making it look like he's happy with Nets direction, as if its NOT about the money [I](even though we know it is).[/I]

That's just a guess, but that's what I think will happen.[/QUOTE]
Honestly that's what you WANT to happen. Your posts on this are all what you want to happen. No hate, but it's something we'll need to discuss in your next counseling session. :cheers: Make sure you bring the check this time.

[QUOTE=ginobli2311]yea. melo is a superstar. he's 26 years old with half of his career left or more. it just seems silly to me that he'd be willing to go to a nets team just for a little extra money in the short term. it really doesn't make sense.

the nuggests have no leverage at all. if melo says "knicks or nothing"....then its on the nuggets. they either get something back....or let melo walk for nothing.

and like i said. it just seems silly to make this decision over the money difference when we all know that melo would reach a new level of star and earning power playing on the knicks.[/QUOTE]
as woudl his wife. The wife of NETS superstar doesn't exactly scream star. Knicks? In the middle of manhattan? a bit more...no?

[QUOTE=niko]Honestly that's what you WANT to happen. Your posts on this are all what you want to happen. No hate, but it's something we'll need to discuss in your next counseling session. :cheers: Make sure you bring the check this time.[/QUOTE]

haha...not really, I'm just being honest. If i had to put money down, my money is on the Nets. You think there's a greater chance of Knicks over Nets right now? C'mon....

I'd say it's about 75% NJ, 25% NY at this point.

But no doubt, Knicks are better off using cap space on legit center, IMO. Tyson Chandler? Marc Gasol? Dalembert? Nene? Pryzbilla? Oden? Someone of that nature......

I remember when Melo said a few days ago, "the Knicks don't want me, why mess that that up", it looked like he was playing a game.

But who knows? I just can't see Melo agreeing to an extension with the Nets.

Having a chance to win could not be a priority for him.

or it could mean that Melo sends that message out there to wake donnie up , same with his comment that the knicks dont want him.

[QUOTE=bagelred]haha...not really, I'm just being honest. If i had to put money down, my money is on the Nets. You think there's a greater chance of Knicks over Nets right now? C'mon....

I'd say it's about 75% NJ, 25% NY at this point.

But no doubt, Knicks are better off using cap space on legit center, IMO. Tyson Chandler? Marc Gasol? Dalembert? Nene? Pryzbilla? Oden? Someone of that nature......[/QUOTE]

no way in hell any of those guys are half as valuable as melo for the knicks team. no way. melo will be only 27 next year and is a legit top 10 player in the league and one of the best crunch time players. if your goal is to win titles in NY....you want melo. its that simple. and the knicks could sign melo and oden. the knicks will spend out of their minds if they think they have a chance to win titles.

I'm not sure it's even possible to place an accurate percentage on where Melo's gonna end up. There's far too many contrasting stories bombing around from 'sources' all over. Me personally? I don't see Melo becoming a Net. The Nets always find a way to make themselves a laughing stock, and this'll no doubt be another notch in the long list of Nets **** ups. Call me a pessimist, but it's hard not to be when you follow the Nets.

[QUOTE=bagelred]haha...not really, I'm just being honest. If i had to put money down, my money is on the Nets. You think there's a greater chance of Knicks over Nets right now? C'mon....

I'd say it's about 75% NJ, 25% NY at this point.

But no doubt, Knicks are better off using cap space on legit center, IMO. Tyson Chandler? Marc Gasol? Dalembert? Nene? Pryzbilla? Oden? Someone of that nature......[/QUOTE]
Oden should be super cheap. Marc and Dalembert will cost more, but worth it.

[QUOTE=Rekindled]or it could mean that Melo sends that message out there to wake donnie up , same with his comment that the knicks dont want him.[/QUOTE]

yeah if you take the whole Amare calling him after that, then the Knicks all of a sudden making these pushes for him, it sure seems that way. wheree as before they seemed complacent thinking they could get him in the offseason.

he probably told Amare he's seriously considering the Nets deal for the extension where the Knicks realized they might really lose him. something like that i bet, but i stilll think he ends up in NY. Melo will never live down signing with NJ and going nowhere for the next 3 years playing for Avery...Rip and Chauncey aren't making them a contender. where as the Knicks are a really good fit for him imo...

[QUOTE=bagelred]haha...not really, I'm just being honest. If i had to put money down, my money is on the Nets. You think there's a greater chance of Knicks over Nets right now? C'mon....

I'd say it's about 75% NJ, 25% NY at this point.

But no doubt, Knicks are better off using cap space on legit center, IMO. Tyson Chandler? Marc Gasol? Dalembert? Nene? Pryzbilla? Oden? Someone of that nature......[/QUOTE]


you still aren't going to beat the C's, Heat, or Orlandos in a series with any of them Centeers in a series. i don't geet how you all think they're going to make the difference against the talent lvl of the other teams in the east :confusedshrug:


where as Melo plays a lot bigger than his size defensively and on the boards and has range out to the 3...

[QUOTE=niko]as woudl his wife. The wife of NETS superstar doesn't exactly scream star. Knicks? In the middle of manhattan? a bit more...no?[/QUOTE]
Actually the Nets women would be looking pretty good post trade:

Beyonce
Sharapova
Kim Kardashian
Candace Parker
Lala Vasquez

[QUOTE=ChuckOakley]Actually the Nets women would be looking pretty good post trade:

Beyonce
Sharapova
Kim Kardashian
Candace Parker
Lala Vasquez[/QUOTE]

Please, like Kim will still be there. Who is Candace Parker? I love Sharapova btw. It makes me want to punch Vujacic even harder.

[QUOTE=knickscity]I remember when Melo said a few days ago, "the Knicks don't want me, why mess that that up", it looked like he was playing a game.

But who knows? I just can't see Melo agreeing to an extension with the Nets.

Having a chance to win could not be a priority for him.[/QUOTE]
I get the feeling his agent and Masai told him that NY isn't gonna trade for him so that he'd agree to New Jersey, but that's only cuz it's in the interest of Denver and MElo's agent if he goes to Jersey. I hope Melo isn't dumb enough to settle on NJ, if he wants NY, he should get it, even if he loses money.


Something tells me that an NJ trade will be agreed on soon and Melo rejects the offer causing NY to low ball Denver which leads to Melo sticking on after the deadline and then we'll see where it goes from there (then either he gets scared of losing all that money so he signs the extension with Denver or leaves for NY in the offseason).

[QUOTE=MeLO MvP 15]I get the feeling his agent and Masai told him that NY isn't gonna trade for him so that he'd agree to New Jersey, but that's only cuz it's in the interest of Denver and MElo's agent if he goes to Jersey. I hope Melo isn't dumb enough to settle on NJ, if he wants NY, he should get it, even if he loses money.


Something tells me that an NJ trade will be agreed on soon and Melo rejects the offer causing NY to low ball Denver which leads to Melo sticking on after the deadline and then we'll see where it goes from there (then either he gets scared of losing all that money so he signs the extension with Denver or leaves for NY in the offseason).[/QUOTE]

Could we make a trade that gets us JR Smith too? I really feel like he'd fit in well here, D'Antoni would be all father figurish and he'd be allowed to shoot all he wanted, i think he'd be in heaven.

BTW, someone told me the Knicks hire bodyguards to follow around their young players and make sure they don't get in trouble. That strikes me as very smart.