[QUOTE=SavageMode]How does Lebron not contribute to the economy? Without him, Clevelands sports economy wouldn't exist.[/QUOTE]
What an incredibly stupid thing to say. Attendance for Cavaliers home games is roughly the same this year as it was last year. Also, the league has a collective bargaining agreement, so Cleveland (along with every other city) reaps the benefits of James' popularity (or lack thereof) regardless.

You are watching/reading too much ESPN.com. If there is one thing that is strong in Cleveland it is interest in the local sports teams.

F#ck outta here.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]What an incredibly stupid thing to say. Attendance for Cavaliers home games is roughly the same this year as it was last year. Also, the league has a collective bargaining agreement, so Cleveland (along with every other city) reaps the benefits of James' popularity (or lack thereof) regardless.

You are watching/reading too much ESPN.com. If there is one thing that is strong in Cleveland it is interest in the local sports teams.

F#ck outta here.[/QUOTE]
That's because they bought their season tickets before he announced his decision. The sales next year are gonna plummet though, guaranteed.

I wonder what would have been Sheed's comeback if this was ever said to him

[QUOTE=ballup]I wonder what would have been Sheed's comeback if this was ever said to him[/QUOTE]


[IMG]http://www.hubnightlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Rasheed-Wallace-O-Face.gif[/IMG]


And when asked how he feels about Gloria James, Rasheed responded with the following actions.


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[QUOTE=LeFraud Shames][IMG]http://www.hubnightlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Rasheed-Wallace-O-Face.gif[/IMG]


And when asked how he feels about Gloria James, Rasheed responded with the following actions.


[IMG]http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/47660_o.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
the funny thing is Sheed isnt even that much younger than Lebron's momma :roll: :roll: :roll: wasnt she like 10 when she had em

[QUOTE=New York Knicks]That's because they bought their season tickets before he announced his decision. The sales next year are gonna plummet though, guaranteed.[/QUOTE]
Maybe.... But that will be because the team is the worst in the league, not because the 'Cleveland sports economy doesn't exist' without James. This city supports its franchises, unlike some others (draw your own conclusions).

Also, just because tickets are sold doesn't mean that people have to show up.... And a good portion of those tickets are bought by ticket brokers. They still have to be bought and used by real fans... And they are.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh] He didn't say anything deliberately vile or lude. He said is your mom going to Boston for Valentine's Day?

That is a veiled jab [/QUOTE] And a veiled jab is still an insult as it's an attempt to make fun/attack someone at their expense



[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]
at what happened in reality, and the reason LeBron got upset was cause it was true. [/QUOTE] IF it was just a malicious rumor, Lebron would still be understandably upset as it does damage to his mother's reputation and how she is viewed in the world. So him showing agitation does nothing to confirm that this event actually occured.
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]

He didn't curse or say anything directly disgusting putting down his mother.
[/QUOTE] Doesn't mean that he still didn't indirectly put his mother down in an attempt to taunt him.
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]

Would you get mad if I asked you if your mom was headed to Boston for valentine's day? [/QUOTE]
Under normal circumstances no, but if there were ongoing rumors of an alleged scandalous affair that were continuously echoed by everyone I knew or didn't know; then to hear that once again in a veiled attempt to disparage my mother, I too would be annoyed.

[QUOTE=BoxOutBOXOUT]You're a f*ckin' idiot. You should've stayed in school. Maybe you would've learned some reading comprehension instead of just rolling blunts.

The issue isn't the f*cking economy and how much LeBron does or doesn't support it. Bernie Madoff supported the economy too with all the sh*t he bought. Would you say the guy is deserving of respect for that? LOL, idiot.

The issue is RESPECT. LeBron acts like he deserves it. Who the f*ck is he? He's a dancing monkey who's paid to amuse people. The reason he CAN contribute anything to the economy is because he's an amusement that people pay money to see to take their mind off things for a while. People like the one who made the joke about LeBron's mom are the very reason LeBron isn't smoking weed in some sh*thole Akron apartment while waiting for his welfare check.

Pro-tip: If you want to be respected, do something respectable. Being a grown man throwing a ball through a hoop for money deserves no more respect than the guy playing harmonica on the street corner for change. If you want to be a dancing monkey for people's entertainment then take the good with the bad and deal with it.[/QUOTE]


y r u so mad? ur 9-5 job not getting u any respect?

^ Yeah, cuz 'yo momma disses are something pro athletes never have to deal with...give me a break.

It's only a big issue to him if it's true.

[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Sounds like its Lebron being a baby. Wait...this happened at an actual game? What a little *****. Man up and do your job, it is the nature of sports.

Players in soccer are forced to man up through way more then this little ish.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-iRLmaZf4A[/url]

this is what some guys deal with...Bron can't even handle this.. This isnt even a big deal.[/QUOTE]

Haha! Nice try but no, hell no! This is completely different, the fans in soccer are united and hooligans, aloud and way to noisy and insane. There is never a grandma in the crowd like you see in the NBA court. You could never hear as a soccer player what 1 specific fan has to say anyways, its way to loud, you hear instead the crowd as one unit, but you still cant fully understand what they are chanting unless its the team name or so.... the fans are much further away from the much bigger field / playing field.

Another difference is that fans in the NBA audience are ridicilously much more silent and much more closer to you and you can hear what each and every individual says there very clearly (that are close to the court), NBA court/crowd is like a library compared to Soccer.

Then you have the risk factor, NBA crowd is like a silent picknick with grandmas/grandpas sitting comfortably and eating their food, compared to Soccer where its a real battlefield of insane hooligan fans, soccer crowd is not a joke, trust me. If example Ron Artest did something like he did in Detroit he would have got killed, trust me on this and security does not dare to walk up in the middle of a soccer crowd and ask one specific fan to leave for being to "Noisy/Disrespectful towards players", that would be his ass.

So you see, for a soccer player its no problem emotionally unless those hooligans start making 100 feet signs and start chanting sensitive (racial) slurs which you understand for the rest of your life, there is nothing you can do either, besides simply walk out of the court.

For the NBA its much more classy, silent and HUMANE, there is much more intercourse with the fans and that is why you can always sepparate one IDIOT from the crowd because he always makes himself noticed, he always stands outs. You also talk to fans all the time, they hear you and you hear each and everyone of them that are closer to the court.

Lebron could hear that fan all night long and we could hear him all night long on the TV as he sat right behind the Pistons announcers, scoreboard, yelling RACIAL AND FAMILY SLURS from the get go of the game.
Lebron simply walked up to the scoreboard and told the guy behind there "Say whatever you want about me, i dont care, but please leave my family out of this."

Its just the same as walking in the street and some idiot runs up to your face threatens your life, yells a racial slur, disrespects your family. The only way you would be a sissy is if you would ignore him.

[QUOTE=KOLBCTEW]IF it was just a malicious rumor, Lebron would still be understandably upset as it does damage to his mother's reputation and how she is viewed in the world. So him showing agitation does nothing to confirm that this event actually occured.[/QUOTE]Damage to her reputation? :wtf:

Are we talking about Gloria [I]"crackhead who loves dating convicts"[/I] James?

[QUOTE=Phong]Damage to her reputation? :wtf:

Are we talking about Gloria [I]"crackhead who loves dating convicts"[/I] James?[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol:

[QUOTE=ballup]I wonder what would have been Sheed's comeback if this was ever said to him[/QUOTE]

Im pretty damn sure Sheed has had worse said to him on the court. As has Lebron and most popular athletes. This has been the Norm since forever now.

[QUOTE=Phong]Damage to her reputation? :wtf:

Are we talking about Gloria [I]"crackhead who loves dating convicts"[/I] James?[/QUOTE]
Uh, Wasn't she around 16 at the time?

Fans think that with the purchase of a ticket comes the right to act out/say whatever you want. I don't like LeBron, but in this case, the fan was in the wrong. Shut up and watch the game. I don't think there is anything wrong with yelling stuff and heckling, but don't cross the line.

Actually LeBron said " I don't give a F*** what you say, but that's disrespectful, and that's a problem!"
That Delonte West Joke was funny, but it was really crossing the line their.

Remember the fight in the Palace? There actually wasn't going to be a fight, Wallace and Artest were about to stop. But then a random fan had to dump beer on Artest...

Ignorant Fans cause these, not the players themselves.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj9rvO_NtrM&feature=player_embedded"]Footage Right Here[/URL]

[QUOTE=Grey Dawn]^ Yeah, cuz 'yo momma disses are something pro athletes never have to deal with...give me a break.

It's only a big issue to him if it's true.[/QUOTE]

You have to be close to handicapped to think Lebron has never heard shit about his mom during a game. Clearly the issue here is what is being said in front of his children. I guarantee he's heard far worse about his mom, and would have acted out many times by now if he was upset because its true. Its part of the game I'm sure he can handle it under normal circumstances, like when his children aren't around.

Damnn his mom shouldnt have done that, thats not a good look for lebron at all hahahaha

[QUOTE=KOLBCTEW]Uh, Wasn't she around 16 at the time?[/QUOTE]LeBron's dad is only the first convict in her long list of lovers. You can google a bunch of little biographies about LeBron where they mention Gloria's love for convicts, crack and booze.

[QUOTE=Phong]LeBron's dad is only the first convict in her long list of lovers. You can google a bunch of little biography about LeBron where they mention Gloria's love for convicts, crack and booze, and how LeBron had to live somewhere else to have a better environment.[/QUOTE]
:roll: you goin in on this ni99a maaaami doe:lol get em:applause:

[QUOTE=Phong]LeBron's dad is only the first convict in her long list of lovers. [/QUOTE]Only other person I see is Eddie Jackson who she had a long relationship with.

[QUOTE=Phong]
You can google a bunch of little biographies about LeBron where they mention Gloria's love for convicts, crack and booze. [/QUOTE]
Only thing I really see mentioned is a DUI incident none of which confirms she's an alcoholic or a crack addict.

:lol lebron mayneee

he has to just take it, hes the entertainment

thats like a stripper complaining about all the staring and whistling

[QUOTE=yeaaaman]You have to be close to handicapped to think Lebron has never heard shit about his mom during a game. Clearly the issue here is what is being said in front of his children. I guarantee he's heard far worse about his mom, and would have acted out many times by now if he was upset because its true. Its part of the game I'm sure he can handle it under normal circumstances, like when his children aren't around.[/QUOTE]

But the fan didn't even say anything explicit or obvious, Lebron's kids wouldn't even know what the fan was talking about, so the 'worried about his kids hearing' argument in this case has no merit.

[QUOTE=mlh1981]Fans think that with the purchase of a ticket comes the right to act out/say whatever you want. I don't like LeBron, but in this case, the fan was in the wrong. Shut up and watch the game. I don't think there is anything wrong with yelling stuff and heckling, but don't cross the line.[/QUOTE]


MLH1981 is always a class act.

[QUOTE=Grey Dawn]But the fan didn't even say anything explicit or obvious, Lebron's kids wouldn't even know what the fan was talking about, so the 'worried about his kids hearing' argument in this case has no merit.[/QUOTE]


LeBron don't give a $hit about the comment of the retarded fans. At the end of the day he's the best player in the NBA, he's banging hot chicks, and He's one of the richest athletes in the World.

As anyone knows, I'm not the biggest fan of Kobe Bryant. However, I would say the same thing if someone verbally attacked his family member. Family members should be off limits. I don't get what makes people think they can insult someone's family member just because they play a sport. You'd get punched in the mouth for that in real life so it's pretty cowardly to do it nice and safe in the stands. But then, a lot of people are cowards.

I wouldn't even yell sh!t about Colorado at Kobe. I might yell something related to BASKETBALL, but not personal sh!t. Some people just don't have a sense of boundaries.

[QUOTE=New York Knicks]Lol. Not even remotely the same.[/QUOTE]

I know. It was much worse. And Kobe still had to deal with it.

[QUOTE=Knoe Itawl]As anyone knows, I'm not the biggest fan of Kobe Bryant. However, I would say the same thing if someone verbally attacked his family member. Family members should be off limits. I don't get what makes people think they can insult someone's family member just because they play a sport. You'd get punched in the mouth for that in real life so it's pretty cowardly to do it nice and safe in the stands. But then, a lot of people are cowards.

I wouldn't even yell sh!t about Colorado at Kobe. I might yell something related to BASKETBALL, but not personal sh!t. Some people just don't have a sense of boundaries.[/QUOTE]


:applause: :applause: :applause:

[QUOTE=Grey Dawn]But the fan didn't even say anything explicit or obvious, Lebron's kids wouldn't even know what the fan was talking about, so the 'worried about his kids hearing' argument in this case has no merit.[/QUOTE]

Kids are not as dumb as you think they are.

[QUOTE=kkling]Kids are not as dumb as you think they are.[/QUOTE]


His kids are smarter than some of the Kobe trolls in this forum.

soo delonte really did do it?? lol

Wow; I figured the fan said something really offensive. I think LeBron just enjoys playing the bad guy right now. :oldlol: Why else would he react like that? It's not like he speaks well to his mother.

Lotta people in here fronitin man. If a dude talked slick about your moms you'd be ready for sh*t to jump off. I know I would...Lebron was actually pretty calm for the situation.

[QUOTE=christian1923]soo delonte really did do it?? lol[/QUOTE]

Haha, no. It was just a weird rumor, dont know how it started anyways, its still funny. But fans use anything to try and get under a players skin. The typical "Lebron you suck!" slurs wont work, so they will try bring anything to the table as long as they can get away with it, throw beer bottles, spit on you, yell racial or family disrespecting slurs, you name it.

Even that popular pic of Lebron where he looks like he is crying ([url]http://thesportspin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/lebron-crying.jpg[/url]) was simply just a good timed pic of him joking around with facial expressions with his teammates on the bench. But it works. :D

[QUOTE=sh0wtime]Haha, no. It was just a weird rumor, dont know how it started anyways, its still funny. But fans use anything to try and get under a players skin. The typical "Lebron you suck!" slurs wont work, so they will try bring anything to the table as long as they can get away with it, throw beer bottles, spit on you, yell racail or family disrespecting slurs, you name it.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izpuDwusAfM[/url]

hahaha this guy thinks its truee, he had "sources" for this lol

How the hell is that offensive? Give me a break. The fan never mentioned Delonte West. He never cussed. Am I missing something here? I would totally understand if the guy was a complete douche and said something really inappropriate, but this doesn't seem like a big deal at all, and shouldn't even be news.

[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]Wow; I figured the fan said something really offensive. I think LeBron just enjoys playing the bad guy right now. :oldlol: Why else would he react like that? It's not like he speaks well to his mother.[/QUOTE]

See, this is where people can't separate their hate for a player with what's right. You know gotdayum well that if it had been a similar situation, but only with Kobe you'd be talking about how it was disrespectful and blah blah blah. Given the rumors and what not, that IS offensive to say to someone about their mother. Why mention someone's family member at ALL? Because they're a pro athlete and you have that "right" as a fan? No, it's childish, disrespectful and really a POS move. However, the world is full of childish, disrespectful POS so it's not surprising.

[QUOTE=Harion]i could say the same about your mom. shuda kept hers close too and saved the world from idiots like you.[/QUOTE]


Repped

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Knoe Itawl]See, this is where people can't separate their hate for a player with what's right. You know gotdayum well that if it had been a similar situation, but only with Kobe you'd be talking about how it was disrespectful and blah blah blah. Given the rumors and what not, that IS offensive to say to someone about their mother. Why mention someone's family member at ALL? Because they're a pro athlete and you have that "right" as a fan? No, it's childish, disrespectful and really a POS move. However, the world is full of childish, disrespectful POS so it's not surprising.[/QUOTE]

Dude, you are the last person who should talk about separating their hate of player with personal situations. Shut the hell up.

I don't see what the big deal is. Seriously. He never mentioned West's name. If he said, "Is your mom riding West?" then I would totally understand, but I don't think what the guy said was that big of a deal. People say worse things. This shouldn't even be news, period.

And I don't mind that LeBron said something back, I just don't understand why this type of thing would set him off.