SLAM: The 500 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time (complete list)

[QUOTE=SavageMode]Jason Kidd in the top 30 GOAT.... and over Dwade, and Paul Pierce....yeah this list got its flaws. And J-rich pretty down low.[/QUOTE]
This. Top 10 already got some flaws, not related to Kobe.

[QUOTE=pauk]
FIXED![/QUOTE]
Oh! I see what you did there!:lol

Thats a stupid list, Lebron at 31? He's much better and a much more dominant player than many of those players infront of him. Stop valuing rings to highly, there is so many different factors that play in when getting a ring.

awful list written by hobos, graffiti artists and wannabe thugs

Shaq at 4 :lol

Kareem at 7 :lol

Iverson at 40 :lol

Dirk at 55 :lol

what the...

[QUOTE=Nash]Thats a stupid list, Lebron at 31? He's much better and a much more dominant player than many of those players infront of him. Stop valuing rings to highly, there is so many different factors that play in when getting a ring.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure his 7 seasons played is the reason he's not over guys who've played 15 years and such.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]331. Arvydas Sabonis[/QUOTE]
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Nash ahead of Nowitzki? :roll:

[QUOTE=Sakkreth]:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]

They are only ranking their NBA careers, so I don't think he should be a lot higher...

At least they got the top two right.

Also I am always a fan of seeing Kareem ranked around #6 or #7, I have him a little higher, but no player is more overrated by those who never saw him.

[QUOTE=G.O.A.T]At least they got the top two right.

Also I am always a fan of seeing Kareem ranked around #6 or #7, I have him a little higher, but no player is more overrated by those who never saw him.[/QUOTE]

You mean the top-3 don't you....this is their list...

[QUOTE]1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Bill Russell
[/QUOTE]

As for Kareem...I have him at #5, but I agree somewhat with what you said. I think a motivated Kareem was as great as anyone whoever played. And the same could probably be said for Shaq, too. But other than a few seasons, I don't think either played to the best of their abilities.

Kareem's career was considered even more of a disappointment than Wilt's...until Magic arrived. And that is why I have Magic ahead of Kareem. Magic MADE the Lakers a GREAT team. And they were STILL an outstanding team even after Kareem retired (hell, they went 63-19 the very next year...which was their second best record of the entire decade.) BUT, after Magic retired, the Lakers were no more than an ordinary team...or about what they were before he joined them.

What changes now?

Of course, this was before Dirk even won his first title.

I actually really like this list

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]What changes now?

Of course, this was before Dirk even won his first title.[/QUOTE]

and before his subsequent sweep out of the 1st round.

Tim Hardaway, Mullin, and Richmond all right next to each other suggests to me that the creator of that list was already getting tired and started listing players by who simply comes to mind next.

[QUOTE=Myth]Tim Hardaway, Mullin, and Richmond all right next to each other suggests to me that the creator of that list was already getting tired and started listing players by who simply comes to mind next.[/QUOTE]
Actually, are they really that far apart when you think about it?

where durant :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[QUOTE=griffmoney1784]how would that be cute.

kareem has just as much claim to top spot for career achivements

wilt has more of a case for individual statistical dominance

russell has more of a case for leading teams to championships

magic has a better case for making others better

kobe has a better case for being the most perfected skill wise


jordan isnt that far ahead of those guys[/QUOTE]

[B]kobe has a better case for being the most perfected skill wise[/B]

wat.

[QUOTE=Jotaro Durant]where durant :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
There was a 5 season criteria for the list. He was tops for the non-eligible players (Rose #2.)

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]
2. Wilt Chamberlain

5. Oscar Robertson[/QUOTE]
:facepalm

Danny Manning is waaaay too low. Just like Kevin Willis. Tisdale ditto. Odom is not a better player than Rod Strickland either. Just saying.

The season is over, any changes need to be made? I basically took all the active players a grouped them up (the first 200 at least.)



[QUOTE]9. Larry Bird
10. Kobe Bryant
11. Jerry West[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]28. Jason Kidd
29. George Mikan
30. Kevin Garnett
31. LeBron James[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]49. Dwyane Wade
50. Steve Nash
51. Walt Bellamy
52. Tiny Archibald
53. Dennis Johnson
54. Reggie Miller
55. Dirk Nowitzki[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]77. Paul Pierce
78. Joe Dumars
79. Ray Allen[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]85. Cliff Hagan
86. Dwight Howard
87. Tim Hardaway[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]
96. Pau Gasol
97. Tracy McGrady
98. Grant Hill
99. Vince Carter[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]105. Carmelo Anthony
106. Dan Issel
107. Chris Paul[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]123. Ben Wallace
124. Chauncey Billups[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]127. Rudy Tomjanovich
128. Deron Williams
129. Guy Rodgers[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]138. Paul Silas
139. Tony Parker
140. Ron Artest
141. Paul Westphal
142. Phil Smith
143. Manu Ginobili
144. Amar'e Stoudemire[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]151. Horace Grant
152. Shawn Marion
153. Gene Shue[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]171. Chris Bosh
172. Bill Bradley
173. Larry Johnson
174. Jermaine O'Neal
175. Andrew Toney
176. Reggie Theus
177. Elton Brand[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]183. Gilbert Arenas
184. Joe Johnson[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]199. Baron Davis
200. Bill Bridges
201. Lamar Odom[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]374. Larry Drew
375. Juwan Howard
376. Richard Jefferson[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]443. Spud Webb
444. Shane Battier
445. Albert King[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]The season is over, any changes need to be made? I basically took all the active players a grouped them up (the first 200 at least.)[/QUOTE]

Dirk at #55?

[QUOTE=jlauber]Dirk at #55?[/QUOTE]
List is from spring 2011 before Dallas won the title.

So Dirk went from 55 now at top 20-25 and Lebron from 31 to at least top 15.

I'd say Juwan moved from 375 up inside 60.

So Shaq is greater than 6 time MVP, 6 time NBA champ, all-time scoring leader, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?

:biggums:

Magic is also too low.

[QUOTE=d.bball.guy]So Dirk went from 55 now at top 20-25 and Lebron from 31 to at least top 15.[/QUOTE]
You have Dirk higher than KG?

[QUOTE=PHILA]:pimp:[/QUOTE]
I couldn't believe Luke F'n Jackson was on this list, until I realized there was another Luke Jackson from the 60's. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[B]BUMP[/B] for trending topic. Active players in [B]BOLD[/B].
This list was created in early 2011 before the All-Star game that season.

What changes would you make?


7. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
[B]8. Tim Duncan[/B]
9. Larry Bird
[B]10. Kobe Bryant[/B]
11. Jerry West


27. Scottie Pippen
[B]28. Jason Kidd[/B]
29. George Mikan
[B]30. Kevin Garnett
31. LeBron James[/B]
32. Willis Reed


48. Dennis Rodman
[B]49. Dwyane Wade
50. Steve Nash[/B]
51. Walt Bellamy


54. Reggie Miller
[B]55. Dirk Nowitzki[/B]
56. Connie Hawkins


76. Dave DeBusschere
[B]77. Paul Pierce[/B]
78. Joe Dumars
[B]79. Ray Allen[/B]
80. Chris Webber


85. Cliff Hagan
[B]86. Dwight Howard[/B]
87. Tim Hardaway


95. Dikembe Mutombo
[B]96. Pau Gasol
97. Tracy McGrady
98. Grant Hill
99. Vince Carter[/B]
100. Buck Williams


104. Walter Davis
[B]105. Carmelo Anthony[/B]
106. Dan Issel
[B]107. Chris Paul[/B]
108. George McGinnis


123. Ben Wallace
[B]124. Chauncey Billups[/B]
125. Bailey Howell


127. Rudy Tomjanovich
[B]128. Deron Williams[/B]
129. Guy Rodgers


138. Paul Silas
[B]139. Tony Parker
140. Ron Artest[/B]
141. Paul Westphal
142. Phil Smith
[B]143. Manu Ginobili
144. Amar'e Stoudemire[/B]
145. Vern Mikkelsen


151. Horace Grant
[B]152. Shawn Marion[/B]
153. Gene Shue


155. Mark Price
[B]156. Rasheed Wallace[/B]
157. Calvin Murphy


170. Clyde Lovellette
[B]171. Chris Bosh[/B]
172. Bill Bradley
173. Larry Johnson
[B]174. Jermaine O'Neal[/B]
175. Andrew Toney
176. Reggie Theus
[B]177. Elton Brand[/B]
178. KC Jones


183. Gilbert Arenas
[B]184. Joe Johnson[/B]
185. Joe Caldwell


198. Fat Lever
[B]199. Baron Davis[/B]
200. Bill Bridges

First change would be the inclusion of Kevin Durant.

Bird is too low. Below Duncan? LeBron, Wade and Dirk should be bumped up. Dwight should be bumped down. 86 is still too high.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]
332. Danny Granger
[B]333. Andre Iguodala[/B]
334. Michael Adams[/QUOTE]
So, where does Andre Iguodala go from here?

[QUOTE=westsideozzie]No Manu or Tony Parker? WTF?[/QUOTE]

Won 5 titles with not even another top 500 player on his team. Everyone else had tons more help. GOAT gonna GOAT.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Duncan and Kobe are too low.

# 5 and 8 respectively.

[QUOTE=HOoopCityJones]Duncan and Kobe are too low.

# 5 and 8 respectively.[/QUOTE]

:applause:

Wtf is carlos boozer and odom in the list and even if they should be in it would they even be in the 200 range wtf. I love kidd but should he really be that high?

[QUOTE=HOoopCityJones]Duncan and Kobe are too low.

# 5 and 8 respectively.[/QUOTE]

Agreed both deserve to be ranked higher and are two best players of their era.

Lebron at 31 all these years ago. Still there now.

[QUOTE=HOoopCityJones]Duncan and Kobe are too low.

# 5 and 8 respectively.[/QUOTE]

Agreed on Duncan. 5 Titles, 3 FMVPS (second most all time) and 2 MVPS
He's remarkable.
I'd have Kobe at 11 personally. Lebron and Hakeem are higher imo and in Lebron's case he's still climbing. Who knows just how far he'll end up.