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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]The only travel in this thread is that LeBron post up from the 1st game of the season v.s. the Celtics.
I actually love threads like these because this stuff interests me more than player a > player b ... bunch of random, useless stats, without context, etc. PER, win shares ... People can be fooled into certain people here actually know what they are talking about IE Indian Guy, etc.
In THESE threads, you really get to understand people who know the game, and play the game.
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I hear you. "Are you stupid that's a travel!" :oldlol:
These guys need to watch [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed9NxevRkm0[/url]
and this [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j6d2qCkTuY[/url]
Kobe and Jordan (who talks about moving your pivot foot, etc) teachin' them fundamentals.
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[QUOTE=d.bball.guy]:roll::roll::roll:
This is a travel as he switched his pivot foot.[/QUOTE]
AND shuffled the original (noticeable even in real time) before he blatantly switched pivot feet.
:facepalm
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[img]http://ishmaeldaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/MCHammer.gif[/img]
Can't touch this.
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh][IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/1t8ne0.gif[/IMG]
Watch the two dumb people in the stands (white t-shirts) motion for a traveling charge.
:facepalm
So many idiot fans don't know the rules of the game.[/QUOTE]
Jeff Van Gundy gonna rant all over those stupid guys.
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]AND shuffled the original (noticeable even in real time) before he blatantly switched pivot feet.
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
It took me a minute to really call it a travel.:lol
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[QUOTE=d.bball.guy]
This one looks like a travel as he switched his pivot foot. I'm not sure if he took 3 steps, though.[/quote]
Another one who doesn't know the game ... this has nothing to do with "steps" ... it's a travel because he shuffles and changes pivot foot. That's two traveling violations on the same play. There are no "steps" involved here.
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[QUOTE=d.bball.guy]It took me a minute to really call it a travel.:lol[/QUOTE]
Same here :oldlol:
Was thinking, wait, is it just me or was dude shuffling? Hid it pretty nicely but if you keep watching it, you'll be able to spot it.
whats hilarious is that he gets away with this type of crap ALL the time. refs just don't call shit...
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Nope. Just impeccable foot work. Left foot is pivot foot ... he fakes the defender with up fake, reverse pivot, attack foot step through. Legal.
See thats the problem with a lot of people. If they haven't seen a move before, or it looks illogical, they immedietly cast it off as a travel.
This is just a beautiful move from Kobe.[/QUOTE]
With the defender there it is hard to see but you ARE correct.. The Left foot does stay planted on the floor.. I retract my opinion of a walk and still think it is funky .. :rockon:
IT WAS A WALK..
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Another one who doesn't know the game ... this has nothing to do with "steps" ... it's a travel because he shuffles and changes pivot foot. That's two traveling violations on the same play. There are no "steps" involved here.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I think I can be better playing and analyzing with what you said.
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[QUOTE=stax]One thing Hakeem and Kobe have in common: played a lot of soccer as kids... I believe it helps, speaking from experience (I'm British and played soccer almost daily before eventually playing basketball daily in my teens).[/QUOTE]
I AGREE.. Steve Nash , manu, and tparker all have great foot work as well and I am sure they have all played soccer..
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[QUOTE=d.bball.guy]Thanks. I think I can be better playing and analyzing with what you said.[/QUOTE]
Didn't mean to come off douchey, just trying to help you, bro.
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Didn't mean to come off douchey, just trying to help you, bro.[/QUOTE]
Well, you helped me.
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[QUOTE=catch24][IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/1t8ne0.gif[/IMG]
Reverse pivot--favorite move of his. Been trying this for a couple years now and it still looks mad sloppy lol.[/QUOTE]
Keep trying them and you will wind up blowing out your knees and ankles..
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[QUOTE=thejumpa]Anything from Melo or Pierce?[/QUOTE]
Melo signature spin
[IMG]http://oi56.tinypic.com/2ep5zzl.jpg[/IMG]
LeBron literally moving like a crab :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=d.bball.guy]Well, you helped me.[/QUOTE]
You want real help. Study 2 or 3 players if you want to get better. And when I say study, I mean really study. Watch how well Kobe keeps his foot planted without sliding it or moving it while executing a ball fake in the post, or a reverse pivot, etc.
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[IMG]http://oi56.tinypic.com/w1420o.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]Keep trying them and you will wind up blowing out your knees and ankles..[/QUOTE]
lmao, that's not very nice :(
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[QUOTE=Fatal9]
LeBron literally moving like a crab :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Maybe if LeBron works on flexibility ... especially last season ... he wouldn't look so stiff and wooden.
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and finally jab step 101, using defenders momentum against him perfectly
[img]http://i53.tinypic.com/1zb5i85.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=Fatal9][IMG]http://oi56.tinypic.com/w1420o.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
The Jordan move ... nicely done. This is one of the few moves I have trouble with. I simply don't have the length to sell it as well as these guys. I can do it with an approaching pick to fake a defender out. But on its own its a difficult move.
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[QUOTE=Fatal9][IMG]http://oi51.tinypic.com/2e1ekh3.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Most never realized that Shaq had some great footwork for such a big dude.. :applause:
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One question I have is are you really allowed to pivot after a hop-step or a jump-stop or w.e it's called?
I don't know so I never use it, but I think I should, seems like a really imbalanced move since you can technically hop-step off the dribble in a different direction from which you're originally going right?
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]You want real help. Study 2 or 3 players if you want to get better. And when I say study, I mean really study. Watch how well Kobe keeps his foot planted without sliding it or moving it while executing a ball fake in the post, or a reverse pivot, etc.[/QUOTE]
He's the only player I study, lol. I watch most of his moves and I really see how he keeps his pivot foot. Maybe I should also play soccer.
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[QUOTE=Kiarip]One question I have is are you really allowed to pivot after a hop-step or a jump-stop or w.e it's called??[/QUOTE]
No, that counts as everything ... you can only go up straight up after a jump step or hop step. Because you're planting both feet and picking up your dribble.
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]No, that counts as everything ... you can only go up straight up after a jump step or hop step. Because you're planting both feet and picking up your dribble.[/QUOTE]
Alright, that's what I was thinking too.
And by definition it's basically when you leave the ground with both feet and gather the ball while in the air before landing right?
edit: and then land with both feet. ?
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[QUOTE=Kiarip]Alright, that's what I was thinking too.
And by definition it's basically when you leave the ground with both feet and gather the ball while in the air before landing right?[/QUOTE]
Correct.
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[QUOTE=Fatal9]Melo signature spin
[IMG]http://oi56.tinypic.com/2ep5zzl.jpg[/IMG]
LeBron literally moving like a crab :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Damn....LBJ really thought he was goin for the pull up. He couldn't have been more wrong.
Good shit:applause:
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Correct.[/QUOTE]
I see, is there a grey area here if you take a leap thing while dribbling and then gather the ball right after you land?
From what I understand you're allowed to jump up and down while you're dribbling ball all you want right?
Reason I'm asking is because I have no idea when to call travels on people when they hop-step into pivot, because I guess they can argue that htey gathered after landing.
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[QUOTE=Kiarip]
From what I understand you're allowed to jump up and down while you're dribbling ball all you want right?[/QUOTE]
You can take like a hesitation hop while dribbling the ball. It's a change of pace move. As long as the ball isn't being carried, it's legal.
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[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall][img]http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2709719/jordan1-o.gif[/img]
[img]http://www.gifsoup.com/view5/2709862/s132s2-o.gif[/img]
[img]http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2709868/3e132e-o.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
were they all in the same game.. ? Those remind me of mj at 35 in the finals
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Amar'e has some nice footwork too. He definitely has his own version of the Dream shake.
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[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]were they all in the same game.. ? Those remind me of mj at 35 in the finals[/QUOTE]
He is 35 in those clips.
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[IMG]http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/01/28/110128110119205578.gif[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Phong][IMG]http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/01/28/110128110119205578.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Well ... at least he didn't travel here.
:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Harison]Really? :wtf: I have seen better, plenty.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Well ... at least he didn't travel here.
:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
apparently he did. you said you can't pivot after jumpstop
edit:
he definitely put his left toe back on the ground, and the jumped off 2 feet for the sad layup attempt
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[QUOTE=Kiarip]apparently he did. you said you can't pivot after jumpstop[/QUOTE]
Oh snap ... you're right. I missed that on intial viewing. Thought he went straight up. Good catch.
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Oh snap ... you're right. I missed that on intial viewing. Thought he went straight up. Good catch.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, I think Lebron doesn't know this rule =\ He pivots after every jump stop.
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[QUOTE=Phong][IMG]http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/01/28/110128110119205578.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Keep it up!:roll::roll:
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[QUOTE=Kiarip]Honestly, I think Lebron doesn't know this rule =\ He pivots after every jump stop.[/QUOTE]
I have seen 8 year old kids PLAYING BBALL with better footwork than Lebron.. He just needs to get into the gym with someone who can teach him over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.. And then over and over and over and over and over and over .. Repetition is going to help him and his foot work.. He has added a nice midrange game but to become a go to guy at the end of games you have to have offense that can beat great defense.. Dirk is the king at this point against any defense.. :applause: