Anyone who has Melo over Durant is a moron. Melo handles the ball 10x more than Durant and has no more assists/playmaking to show for it plus he scores at a less efficient rate. The definition of an offense killer.
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Anyone who has Melo over Durant is a moron. Melo handles the ball 10x more than Durant and has no more assists/playmaking to show for it plus he scores at a less efficient rate. The definition of an offense killer.
[QUOTE=28renyoy]I don't consider Gallo a SF and he's better than Marion[/QUOTE]
What do you consider Gallo then?
Wilson is a slightly above average player, far from a top 10.
Let alone Marion and Gallo (and Iggy, whom I consider a SF)... S-Jax, Beasley, Turkoglu, Ariza off the top of my head are better SFs than Chandler.
[QUOTE=Jasi]What do you consider Gallo then?
Wilson is a slightly above average player, far from a top 10.
Let alone Marion and Gallo (and Iggy, whom I consider a SF)... S-Jax, Beasley, Turkoglu, Ariza off the top of my head are better SFs than Chandler.[/QUOTE]
Gallo is a PF. Iguodala is a SG
Beasley, Turkoglu, Stephen Jackson, and Ariza are not better than Chandler.
[QUOTE=28renyoy]Gallo is a PF. Iguodala is a SG
Beasley, Turkoglu, Stephen Jackson, and Ariza are not better than Chandler.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if you ever watched Gallo play...
as for the rest, to each his own
[QUOTE=28renyoy]Gallo is a PF. Iguodala is a SG
Beasley, Turkoglu, Stephen Jackson, and Ariza are not better than Chandler.[/QUOTE]
:lol :lol :lol
[QUOTE=28renyoy]Gallo is a PF.[/QUOTE]
A PF that makes these plays?
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnO6pIb27H8"]Crossover on LeBron[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0idVvdt3ZU&feature=related"]Coast-to-coast with crossover and dunk on the Mavs[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2GubAdifTg&feature=related"]Same, on the Kings[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvFCPOuv6wk&feature=related"]Attacks Lakers defense and dishes out the layup[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jasi]A PF that makes these plays?
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnO6pIb27H8"]Crossover on LeBron[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0idVvdt3ZU&feature=related"]Coast-to-coast with crossover and dunk on the Mavs[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2GubAdifTg&feature=related"]Same, on the Kings[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvFCPOuv6wk&feature=related"]Attacks Lakers defense and dishes out the layup[/URL][/QUOTE]
Blake Griffin makes all of those plays and he is a PF
[QUOTE=28renyoy]Blake Griffin makes all of those plays and he is a PF[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see them... Bear in mind that all those plays were with set defenses.
[QUOTE=Jasi]I'd like to see them... Bear in mind that all those plays were with set defenses.[/QUOTE]
I'm not looking through youtube highlights, ask Clippersfan86 he's the biggest Griffin stan on this board.
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Anthony
4. Pierce
5. Iguodala
I knew Melo would get over rated as soon as he became a Knick but this is just ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Jasi]I'd like to see them... Bear in mind that all those plays were with set defenses.[/QUOTE]
Watched pretty much every Clippers game. Griffin doesn't make those types of plays. He'll have the occasional fast break cross over, but never like that on set defences.
[QUOTE=asu77golf]I knew Melo would get over rated as soon as he became a Knick but this is just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Melo has been the 2nd or 3rd best SF for 7 years now.:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Ronin]1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Anthony
4. Pierce
5. Iguodala[/QUOTE]
iguodala is a great defensive player, but not top 5 material
i'd be granger ahead of him
[QUOTE=Stuckey]iguodala is a great defensive player, but not top 5 material
i'd be granger ahead of him[/QUOTE]
Rudy Gay is easily and has been better than him for 2 years now.
Michael Beasley is as good as Danny Granger
[QUOTE=8BeastlyXOIAD]
Michael Beasley is as good as Danny Granger[/QUOTE]
not yet at least. Granger is better than Beasley at pretty much everything. :confusedshrug:
Ill take Beasley over Granger to. Granger is a good shooter who can barely create his own shot. One trick pony. Beasley is a complete offensive player who is good at everything but not great at alot besides Mid range shooting
[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]not yet at least. Granger is better than Beasley at pretty much everything. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Nope not scoring, and they're both equal at playmaking.
Beasley is a better scorer (more versatile, clutch,etc)
Both equal in playmaking
Danny is a better defender
[QUOTE=kaiiu]Ill take Beasley over Granger to. Granger is a good shooter who can barely create his own shot. One trick pony. Beasley is a complete offensive player who is good at everything but not great at alot besides Mid range shooting[/QUOTE]
This too
[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]Melo has been the 2nd or 3rd best SF for 7 years now.:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
He's been second to Lebron, but IMO it is clear that Durant has surpassed him.
Lebron/Durant
Durant/Lebron
Melo
That's how I see it.
I hate LeBron James to death.
But that doesn't matter, he IS the best small forward plain and simply. People take off the bias glasses.
LeBron
Durant
Melo
Pierce
Gay
Bye..
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Melo
4. Trevor Booker
Tell me one thing besides 3 point shooting that Durant can do better than Melo.
Melo = better ball handling, better rebounder, better mid range shooter, better post game, etc.
[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks][B]Tell me one thing besides 3 point shooting that Durant can do better than Melo.[/B]
Melo = better ball handling, better rebounder, better mid range shooter, better post game, etc.[/QUOTE]
It's actually funny but Melo had a better 3-pt % last season than Durant :lol
Especially in New York,he was draining threes like crazy.I'm pretty sure it was over 40% while playing in NY.
[B]By the way,stats per 36 minutes:
Melo: 25.8 PPG , 7.4 RPG , 2.9 APG 46/38/84 %
Durant: 25.6 PPG , 6.3 RPG , 2.5 APG 46/35/88 %[/B]
[QUOTE=Clutch]It's actually funny but Melo had a better 3-pt % last season than Durant :lol
Especially in New York,he was draining threes like crazy.I'm pretty sure it was over 40% while playing in NY.
[B]By the way,stats per 36 minutes:
Melo: 25.8 PPG , 7.4 RPG , 2.9 APG 46/38/84 %
Durant: 25.6 PPG , 6.3 RPG , 2.5 APG 46/35/88 %[/B][/QUOTE]
yupp..exactly.
so glad we got Melo man....best player we've had in years. It's really enjoyable to watch the guy play.
LeBron
Durant
Melo
Bron
Melo
Durant
Others
[QUOTE=bdreason]1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Melo
4. Pierce
5. Iggy
6. Granger
7. Gay
8. Wallace
9. Deng
10. S-Jax
What do I win?[/QUOTE]
This, not debatable, mods lock this thread down now plz.
LeBron
Durant
Melo
Rudy Gay
Paul Pierce
this should be renamed to Durant vs Melo thats the only thing to talk about
[QUOTE=Ikill]this should be renamed
LeBron
Durant
Melo
because that's the only logical top 3 in order[/QUOTE]
agreed
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Rudy Gay
5. Paul Pierce
[QUOTE=28renyoy]Blake Griffin makes all of those plays and he is a PF[/QUOTE]
Blake Griffin is athletic enough to play just about any position, but he can't shoot. He can't even make freethrows.
Gallinari's a small forward. You can play him as a power forward, but that better be plan B.
Or, if Gallo's a PF, then so is Durant. And that doesn't work either.
[B]melo[/B]
Gerald Wallace must acquire in there as opposed to Deng...
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[QUOTE=28renyoy]I'm done arguing with homers. 90% of unbiased posters at realgm, which is 10X the size of insidehoops, believe Durant is clearly superior to Anthony.
Stats back it up. Majority opinion backs it up. What else is there?[/QUOTE]
do you realize idiot that there are more idiots in the world than geniuses so it follows that only few geniuses will realize that melo is better than durant. geniuses analyze their games while idiots only look at stats coz they dont know how to analyze. if your an idiot, youll say lebron is better than kobe because of stats but its clear that kobe has the rings to back it up.
[QUOTE=knicksman]do you realize idiot that there are more idiots in the world than geniuses so it follows that only few geniuses will realize that melo is better than durant. geniuses analyze their games while idiots only look at stats coz they dont know how to analyze. if your an idiot, youll say lebron is better than kobe because of stats but its clear that kobe has the rings to back it up.[/QUOTE]
What's actually the worst is the fact that Durant doesn't even have better stats
[B]Carmelo Anthony per 36 minutes:
25.8 PPG , 7.4 RPG , 2.9 APG .455 / .378 / .838
Kevin Durant per 36 minutes:
25.6 PPG , 6.3 RPG , 2.5 APG .462 / .350 / .880[/B]
If joyner wants to have stats battle then if we just look at stats Melo is a better rebounder,passer and 3-pt shooter while Durant is only better at shooting free-throws.
Unless you see his 0.7 % better field goal percentage as advantage :oldlol:
If you want to base your opinion on games you watched then Melo is better.
Much more versatile scorer,better rebounder,best game-winning shot maker since he entered the league...
Only advantage that Durant has is defense and I think that's arguable.
Tell me one reason why Durant is better than Melo and spare me TS % crap or similar things.
that seems about right....
1. LBJ
2. Durant
3. Melo
4. Granger
5. Gay
6. Iggy
7. Pierce
8. Wallace
9. Deng
10. S.Jackson
HM
Gallinari - due for a big season in this contract year.
1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Paul Pierce
5. Rudy Gay
6. Danny Granger
7. Stephen Jackson
8. Andre Iguodala
9. Shawn Marion
10. Luol Deng