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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=32Dayz]I definitely dont think it would be illogical to think a Young/Skinny Wilt could touch the top of the back board.
With his length + hops it should be possible.
I dont think we can say for certain if he could or couldn't without more video of Young Wilt but believing he could is not stupid.
It's obvious though "based on what we know and have seen so far" that for someone of his size he had some of the greatest hops ever.
Even Young Kareem I believe mentioned how even older Wilt had tremendous hops which helped him when he attempted to defend his Sky-Hook.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EpVZS26BUs[/url]
And yes, an OLD Wilt was outjumping a YOUNG Kareem.
And how about a 34 year old Wilt, at 300+ lbs, and on a surgically repaired knee...with a straight-up jump (no running start at all)...reaching the top of the square with his fingertips. Take a look at just past the 30:00 mark, and then they do a slow motion replay several times, including a couple just past the 31:00 mark.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipl5DeHnMVI[/url]
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[IMG]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc[/IMG]
Ok, so after seeing the above video and seeing Wilt's insane athletic ability, not only am I proclaiming Wilt as a giant sized Kevin Durant, I am going to go ahead and validate his 50ppg season as an extraordinary achievement of athletic proportions.
Titles really do not begin to become relevant until after bringing up 50ppg in 61-62.
My new top 6:
Wilt - Superhero-type separation.
Kareem - Total package, most consistent.
Shaq - Most dominant of the modern age.
Russell - Greatest team center ever?
Hakeem- Only one more skilled is Kareem
Robinson - His 70 point game puts him over Malone, Walton
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[QUOTE=305Baller][IMG]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc[/IMG]
Ok, so after seeing the above video and seeing Wilt's insane athletic ability, not only am I proclaiming Wilt as a giant sized Kevin Durant, I am going to go ahead and validate his 50ppg season as an extraordinary achievement of athletic proportions.
Titles really do not begin to become relevant until after bringing up 50ppg in 61-62.
My new top 6:
Wilt - Superhero-type separation.
Kareem - Total package, most consistent.
Shaq - Most dominant of the modern age.
Russell - Greatest team center ever?
Hakeem- Only one more skilled is Hakeem
Robinson - His 70 point game puts him over Malone, Walton[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWrGWuU2Ak[/url]
Hopefully more and more Wilt footage becomes available. I still hold out some kind of hope that we will get one of his 271 40+ point games, or even perhaps one of his 118 50+ point games. And how incredible would it be to see one of his 32 60+ point games (maybe his 62 point game against Russell, or his 73-36 game against 6-11 HOFer Walt Bellamy, or his 78-43 game against the Lakers in '61-62, or his last 60+ game, in 1969, in which he scored 66 points on 29-35 shooting.)
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[QUOTE=305Baller][IMG]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc[/IMG]
Ok, so after seeing the above video and seeing Wilt's insane athletic ability, not only am I proclaiming Wilt as a giant sized Kevin Durant, I am going to go ahead and validate his 50ppg season as an extraordinary achievement of athletic proportions.
Titles really do not begin to become relevant until after bringing up 50ppg in 61-62.
My new top 6:
Wilt - Superhero-type separation.
Kareem - Total package, most consistent.
Shaq - Most dominant of the modern age.
Russell - Greatest team center ever?
Hakeem- Only one more skilled is Kareem
Robinson - His 70 point game puts him over Malone, Walton[/QUOTE]
Your top-6 center of all-time?
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[QUOTE=D-Wade316]Your top-6 center of all-time?[/QUOTE]
yes
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LOL im so sick of this dude. Suit is old ass up and get him on the hardwood....
After hes done benching 500lbs....
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=La Frescobaldi]I don't know the myths on ish about Wilt dunking free throws.... but here is some fact.
Interview with of Tex Winter, Kansas State basketball coach back in the 50s, talking about being chair of the Coaches Rules committee, and going to see Chamberlain as a freshman at KU.
You may or may not know, but K State - KU is a terrific rivalry.......... so for Tex to come up with some rules that would stop the arch-rival is, well, typical college operations.
The whole interview is awesome, the Chamberlain talk starts about 3:15
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyz-FhP2ONk[/url]
Kind of like a Bill of Attainder lol "legislating" against Chamberlain.
Of course, no video footage, so it never happened right[/QUOTE]
Repped. This is a great find. The guys legislating against Wilt are stepping forward. This and top of the backboard are things that nobody since Wilt can claim. This is major slap in the face to those who say since guys today can't do it... so it can't be done.
I'm sure the 550 bench press can be gotten from the Terminator as well. A Mr Universe that was actively on steroids never admits that another guy is the strongest in the world, especially when the guy comes from a sport not known for strength building.
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Wilt was the F'ing man. We need to find more footage. The guy was so ahead of his time it was scary. This guy would dominate in any era. Love that no look bump pass when he drew two defenders.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=jlauber]Wilt, himself claimed that he accomplished that feat quite often. BUT, because there was no video footage of, the handful of "anti-Wilt" posters here naturally dismissed it. NOW, we have TEX WINTER confirming that fact.
SONNY HILL claimed that he witnessed Wilt touching the top of the backboard. The "Wilt-haters" dismissed it. It was impossible. No one else has done it. Not even James White. YET, we now have video footage of Chamberlain, while at KU, with his hand very near the top of the backboard...in a jump in which he goes straight up, and without benefit of a running start. We also have FOOTAGE of a 34 year old Wilt, at 300+ lbs., and only a year removed from major knee surgery, ...again, going straight up, with no running start, and his hand reaches above the square, or nearly 12 ft.
Of course, the "Wilt-bashers" will say...see, he couldn't do it.
Which gets me to my point on the 6-6 Gus Johnson, who some have claimed could touch the top of the backboard. We obviously don't have the VIDEO FOOTAGE, but here is what we do KNOW. He made a straight up leap, and touched a nail at the 11' 6" mark. On the surface, that doesn't seem so incredible. After all, we have had NBA players touch the 12' 6" mark.
HOWEVER, it took all that the 6-4 Joey Johnson could do, to equal that mark. So what you ask...or as Millwad chimed in with this:
I bet Millwad never saw Joey Johnson play, even though he was dunking on 11'-7" baskets back in the 90's. Or that he had a measured vertical of 52".
[url]http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildaboutazcats/2010/07/25/johnsons-potential-literally-through-the-roof/[/url]
Think about that. Joey Johnson with his head easily above the rim, had a difficult time, in 1988, touching the same nail that Gus Johnson touched in 1963.
And, that again brings us back to Wilt. We KNOW that with a standing leap, Wilt could nearly touch 13 ft. If Johnson's standing leap could only go slightly above 11' 6", just how high would a Wilt, with a running start, have topped out at?
At least we can finally put an end to the idiotic "anti-Wilt" clan continually denying what so MANY have claimed in the last 50+ years.
Incidently, as a sidenote about long-jumping...Bob Beamon jumped 29' 2" in 1968. That record stood until 1991, when Mike Powell jumped 29' 4"...which is STILL the record. So, in the last 40+ years, we have seen the long jump "jump" by a measely TWO INCHES. Kind of puts a different perspective on the athletes of the 60's and those of even today (who have all the advantages of modern technology.)
Which brings me to this guy...
Most rational Chamberlain posters, and I am certainly in that category, have claimed that Wilt was capable of around a 42" vertical leap, and a 500+ bench press. (The "non-rational" Wilt fans will point out that the internet is loaded with accounts of Wilt with a 50+ vertical, or 550-600 lb. bench press.) We will probably never see any kind of footage confirming Wilt's bench, but we have first hand accounts of him doing it. We also have articles as early as 1964 claiming he was benching 425 lbs, and an eye-witness account of him benching 465 at age 59. And the net is plastered with a TON of accounts of his incredible strength.
As for the vertical, we now HAVE the footage's which show his phenomenal leaping ability. Of course, he was a HIGH JUMP champion, and with horrible form, and doing it PART TIME. He was also a 7-2 man, with a measured 7-8 wingspan, that was a LONG JUMPER, and a TRIPLE JUMPER at KU (as well as a SPRINTER.) In Wilt's first book, there is also a photo of him, playing volleyball sometime in the late 60's or early 70's, in which his waist is above the top of the net. Sportswriter George Kiseda measured a Wilt vertical leap at 42." We have SONNY HILL and TEX WINTER backing up his own claims.
AND, as I have LONG maintained here...where are all of those that actually saw Chamberlain play, who would DISPUTE these staggering claims? Wilt played with HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of different players in his career, and even after his NBA days. He was coached by SEVERAL coaches, and there were DOZENS of coaches who coached against him. He was followed by MANY members of the media. And his game was watched by perhaps MILLIONS of fans in his career. Where are those that would CHALLENGE the MANY astonishing physical feats that were attributed to Wilt? I have never read one LEGITIMATE eye-witness account that claimed that Wilt could not touch the top of the backboard, or bench 500 lbs.
There are the few that have scoffed at the idea that Wilt had a good outside shot. After all, he was a poor FT shooter (of course, Bruce Bowen won the 3pt title in a season in which he shot .404 from the line, too.) BUT, we had a HOF coach, and not one of Wilt's, who witnessed it.
And then, in the last few months, new VIDEO footage, as well as deleted old footage, has surfaced which CLEARLY shows Chamberlain hitting MANY shots from 12-15+ feet.
Hopefully one day, we will get some full games from perhaps a few of his 271 40+ point games, too.
In any case, one thing is becoming quite clear...it is getting worse-and-worse everyday, to be a "Wilt-basher."[/QUOTE]
I'm a believer!!
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His athleticism reminds me of David Robinson, he's no more athletic than him. People like to put Wilt up on a pedestal.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkTMOwJsto&feature=fvst"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkTMOwJsto&feature=fvst[/URL]
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[QUOTE=kumquat]His athleticism reminds me of David Robinson, he's no more athletic than him. People like to put Wilt up on a pedestal.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkTMOwJsto&feature=fvst"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkTMOwJsto&feature=fvst[/URL][/QUOTE]
Wilt had a longer wingspan.
Anyways, did DROB have the skills to avg 50 against scrubs?
DROB did get 70 points once but maybe yes this is the closest comparison, but could DROB do behind-the-back passes in transition?
I don't think so.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=jlauber][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EpVZS26BUs[/url]
And yes, an OLD Wilt was outjumping a YOUNG Kareem.
And how about a 34 year old Wilt, at 300+ lbs, and on a surgically repaired knee...with a straight-up jump (no running start at all)...reaching the top of the square with his fingertips. Take a look at just past the 30:00 mark, and then they do a slow motion replay several times, including a couple just past the 31:00 mark.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipl5DeHnMVI[/url][/QUOTE]
I don't get Wilt's incredible explosion. He routinely gets a similar height with this quick broad jump. And they weren't into stretching back then which adds about six inches to your quick jump and more explosion. Wilt rarely leaves his feet before the offender so his explosion is incredibly quick. His timing is also kind of eerie as he usually gets the ball just before the peak.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Pointguard]I don't get Wilt's incredible explosion. He routinely gets a similar height with this quick broad jump. And they weren't into stretching back then which adds about six inches to your quick jump and more explosion. Wilt rarely leaves his feet before the defender so his explosion is incredibly quick. His timing is also kind of eerie as he usually gets the ball just before the peak.[/QUOTE]
could it be a fake? nahhh
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Pointguard]I don't get Wilt's incredible explosion. He routinely gets a similar height with this quick broad jump. And they weren't into stretching back then which adds about six inches to your quick jump and more explosion. Wilt rarely leaves his feet before the defender so his explosion is incredibly quick. His timing is also kind of eerie as he usually gets the ball just before the peak.[/QUOTE]
And it is all so effortless, too. Even the mulitple blocks on Kareem when he was 35, over 300 lbs, and jumping on a surgically repaired knee.
I used to get a kick out those "non-believers" that would find a YouTube block by Chamberlain, and in it, they would claim that, "see, Wilt's head is not even at the rim." Of course, what was so laughable, was that here was Chamberlain easily flicking the ball out of the air, with virtually no effort. I guess they wanted Wilt to block the shot with his head, or perhaps his chest (or maybe even some other body part.)
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]"There is a common belief that Wilt was so good because he played in an era where there was no competition or size to compete with Wilt. I am going to show that Wilt would dominate in today
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Raph12]Of all the guys you just listed, only Lanier is close to Wilt's weight (275-300lbs), the next closest in weight was atleast 40lbs lighter.[/QUOTE]
This wasn't me who wrote all that.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=jlauber]And it is all so effortless, too. Even the mulitple blocks on Kareem when he was 35, over 300 lbs, and jumping on a surgically repaired knee.
I used to get a kick out those "non-believers" that would find a YouTube block by Chamberlain, and in it, they would claim that, "see, Wilt's head is not even at the rim." Of course, what was so laughable, was that here was Chamberlain easily flicking the ball out of the air, with virtually no effort. I guess they wanted Wilt to block the shot with his head, or perhaps his chest (or maybe even some other body part.)[/QUOTE]
Since when was Wilt "over 300lbs" in his playing career?
[img]http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1321/806074491_b7a703dfd4.jpg[/img]
According to that, 327lbs was the heaviest he had ever been, he was noticeably bigger and that was long after he was retired and weight lifting for a movie.
When he was on the Lakers he didn't look heavier than Bynum, who isn't even 300lbs.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=jlauber][B]And it is all so effortless, too. Even the mulitple blocks on Kareem when he was 35, over 300 lbs, and jumping on a surgically repaired knee.[/B]
[/QUOTE]
And what's really wild about those blocks is that Kareem's skyhook then, in the early 70's was less deliberate, more fluid off of his moves, and quicker on the release than the 80's skyhook. The later skyhook would have been timed a lot easier.
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[URL="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=CqxIAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xwANAAAAIBAJ&pg=3715,469887&dq"]Meriden Journal - Sep 6, 1963[/URL]
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Below he slams over 6'9, 240 lb Zelmo Beaty.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/eiEJD.jpg[/IMG]
[URL="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=340UAAAAIBAJ&sjid=wAAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7302,4611332&dq"]Toldeo Blade - Nov 28, 1956[/URL]
[I]'It seems Wilt has an unorthodox method of shooting free throws. The big guy takes aim at the basket from several feet behind the line. Then he takes about three giant steps, leaves his feet before reaching the line, and stuffs the ball through the hoop.
Under the old rule, it was perfectly legal as Wilt never touched the floor before letting go of the ball. In addition his percentage was fantastic.
"Why, he would have had a free throw percentage of 100," said [Tex] Winter. "He never missed."
Incidentally the rules committee did not mention Chamberlain by name as a reason for the change. The rule change was made, according to the committee, "[B]to prevent freak activity[/B]."[/I]'
[URL="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=1XYyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2OkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2229,2425147&dq"]The Miami News - Nov 7, 1962[/URL]
[I]'He can clean and jerk a 375-lb. weight, run the quarter mile in 47s, and high-jump over 6-11.'[/I]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1075691/2/index.htm"]Sports Illustrated - March 2, 1964[/URL]
[I]'The St. Louis Hawks' 6-foot-9, 240-pound Zelmo Beaty, for example, found out recently that he can no longer take Chamberlain's great strength for granted. Unable to slow Wilt down with conventional maltreatment, Beaty tried to yank his shorts off. Chamberlain, [B]who can press 400 pounds without breathing hard[/B], makes it a point to control his temper, primarily because he is genuinely afraid he might kill somebody. Beaty's unethical yank, however, was too much. Wilt flicked an arm, and Beaty flew across the floor like a man shot out of a cannon. Referee Mendy Rudolph rushed over to him and said: "For God's sake, stay down, man. Don't even twitch a muscle." Beaty didn't twitch, and he is still active in the NBA.[/I]'
[URL="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_dkLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=QlcDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7163,2399606&dq"]The Evening Independent - Sep 15, 1966[/URL][I]
'Chamberlain, like Brown, is a great athlete and seriously considered becoming a fighter a year and a half ago. Wilt and Jimmy have competed against each other in foot races and tests of strength.
"I'd rather fight Clay than Wilt," Brown said. "Chamberlain's too big and he's too strong, but I'm no fighter. I'm saving whatever fighting I've got to do for the Dirty Dozen."[/I]'
[URL="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=gPoNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=w3sDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7049,3815406&dq"]St. Petersburg Times - Feb 25, 1969[/URL]
[I]'Wilt Chamberlain is probably the first giant in history to be able to break 50 seconds in the 440, win a Big Eight high-jump title and be able to set a pick. In fact, he may not be a true giant. Medicine has taken the mystery out of gigantism. Most giants of the past were physical weaklings. Some were 90 percent legs.[B] Wilt Chamberlain, by common consent, is the world's strongest man.[/B][/I]'
He was even stronger during his later years in life.
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[URL="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=TSMoAAAAIBAJ&sjid=S1cDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2229,911381&dq"]The Evening Independent - Jan 6, 1967[/URL]
[I]"I'd bet you $1,000 I could lift 1,000 pounds," the 76ers singular 7-1 center said, "I have. I've also hand-wrestled two men at the same time and beat them. And there's nothing I'd like to do better than play pro football."[/I]
[URL="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_R8TAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lAUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6593,3084647&dq"]Ocala Star-Banner - Sep 17, 1975[/URL]
[I]'As inconspicuously as possible for a 7-foot 1-inch impresario, Wilt Chamberlain stopped by the New York Knicks' office for a quick social hello and now he was waiting for an elevator that would take him upstairs to the Madison Square Garden arena floor. When the elevator doors opened, Wilt stepped back as two husky workmen struggled to wheel a heavily loaded dolly into the corridor. On the dolly there were 10 big cartons of envelopes. For perhaps a minute the workmen pushed and pulled, trying to get the wheels of the dolly across the uneven gap between the elevator and the floor, huffing and puffing, they finally dropped their hands in frustration. "You look," Wilt said, "like you need a little help," His massive arms unencumbered by a chocolate sleeveless shirt, he reached down, grabbed the rope attached to the dolly and lifted the load into the corridor as if it had been a baby in a stroller. The workmen stared and thanked him. Wilt smiled, entered the elevator and the doors closed.
"I never saw anything like that," one of the workmen said. "These carton each weight about 80 pounds. [B]This is an 800 pound load.[/B]"
That's the approximate weight of four Knick teammates. And if Wilt were to join the Knicks for the approaching National Basketball Association season, he believes he could lift the team into contention with the Boston Celtics for the Atlantic Division title.'[/I]
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
There was a tale from John Havlicek on a physical confrontation Chamberlain had with NFL player and part time professional wrestler Big Daddy Lipscomb in the early 60's. It ended with Lipscomb on the floor and Chamberlain muttering, [I]"Nobody messes with Wilt"[/I]. :applause:
[IMG]http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2005/09/01/lipscomb.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2005/09/01/lipscomb365x445.jpg[/IMG]
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]^
Are you getting wet?[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]^
Are you getting wet?[/QUOTE]
Take that crap to another thread.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Take that crap to another thread.[/QUOTE]
a 50+ man spreading his man juice about how "strong" Wilt is, is a little odd
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]a 50+ man spreading his man juice about how "strong" Wilt is, is a little odd[/QUOTE]
He is spreading the legend.
You have sex thoughts. hahaa
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=abuC]Since when was Wilt "over 300lbs" in his playing career?
[img]http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1321/806074491_b7a703dfd4.jpg[/img]
According to that, 327lbs was the heaviest he had ever been, he was noticeably bigger and that was long after he was retired and weight lifting for a movie.
When he was on the Lakers he didn't look heavier than Bynum, who isn't even 300lbs.[/QUOTE]
this is a trip
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]a 50+ man spreading his man juice about how "strong" Wilt is, is a little odd[/QUOTE]
I'm sure that's not what he's implying, so enough of the smart ass comments and close this thread if you feel uncomfortable about whatever it is you are viewing and assuming.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=305Baller]this is a trip[/QUOTE]
Amazingly, Wilt was NOT 327 lbs during the filming of that movie, but was at only 255 lbs.
I won't take the time to look up that source, but I am reasonably certain that it was around 255.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=305Baller]He is spreading the legend.
You have sex thoughts. hahaa
[IMG]http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000983729/simpsons_haha_xlarge.jpeg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I think people just assume that we are all born at the same time and go through the same saying and definitions. Well it's not to be.
We are seeing the difference of a 50+ year old and another solid poster who, say they are homers or obsessed I don't care, trying to show something about legends I believe 99% of this board did not even see or were even born.
Then another poster, who must not even be an adult yet, who's posting some childish non-sense that is not only idiotic, brings up nothing to discussion about this thread. Weak, predictable, and very lame attempt at trolling.
Let's stick to the thread and if you don't want to contribute, please do us a favor and leave.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I think people just assume that we are all born at the same time and go through the same saying and definitions. Well it's not to be.
We are seeing the difference of a 50+ year old and another solid poster who, say they are homers or obsessed I don't care, trying to show something about legends I believe 99% of this board did not even see or were even born.
Then another poster, who must not even be an adult yet, who's posting some childish non-sense that is not only idiotic, brings up nothing to discussion about this thread. Weak, predictable, and very lame attempt at trolling.
Let's stick to the thread and if you don't want to contribute, please do us a favor and leave.[/QUOTE]
well yeah, thats why he got the HAHAA
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=305Baller]well yeah, thats why he got the HAHAA[/QUOTE]
I concur:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo[/url]
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]^
Are you getting wet?[/QUOTE]
Where's the rebuttal?
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I think people just assume that we are all born at the same time and go through the same saying and definitions. Well it's not to be.
We are seeing the difference of a 50+ year old and another solid poster who, say they are homers or obsessed I don't care, trying to show something about legends I believe 99% of this board did not even see or were even born.
[B]Then another poster, who must not even be an adult yet, who's posting some childish non-sense that is not only idiotic, brings up nothing to discussion about this thread. Weak, predictable, and very lame attempt at trolling.[/B]
Let's stick to the thread and if you don't want to contribute, please do us a favor and leave.[/QUOTE]
And when he attempts to contribute something related to basketball, it is something along the lines that when Chamberlain went 1-11 in game seven of the '70 Finals (which was over at halftime BTW, when NY led 69-42), that it cost him 3-4 rings.
Not sure what they are teaching in 3rd grade math anymore, but if he is any indication, the next generation is in even more trouble.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
I think he'd be like David Robinson, a bit stronger, a bit less dexterious.
ShaqAttack makes a good point about defensive systems not being as refined as now. I wonder if Chamberlain could learn to adapt and use more of his strength then.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=jlauber]Amazingly, Wilt was NOT 327 lbs during the filming of that movie, but was at only 255 lbs.
I won't take the time to look up that source, but I am reasonably certain that it was around 255.[/QUOTE]
He was doing those 50 mile marathons at the time... but 255 might be bit low. Isn't that less than his college days?
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=RobertdeMeijer]I think he'd be like David Robinson, a bit stronger, a bit less dexterious.
ShaqAttack makes a good point about defensive systems not being as refined as now. I wonder if Chamberlain could learn to adapt and use more of his strength then.[/QUOTE]
I won't take the time to repost my reply to these assertions, except to say that Wilt was not only SWARMED in his career, he was BRUTALIZED for much of it.
Only the uneducated would tell you otherwise.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=Pointguard]He was doing those 50 mile marathons at the time... but 255 might be bit low. Isn't that less than his college days?[/QUOTE]
I can't recall where I pulled that info from. Maybe from one of Wilt's own books? In any case, he bulked up again. I won't take the time to pull up his and Russell's interview with Costas in the late 80's I believe, but in it, he was a MASSIVE man, and made Russell look extremely frail in comparison. I suspect that even in his 50's he was around 300 lbs. Once again, there is an eyewitness interview in which he was seen benching 465 lbs., and at age 59.
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
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Imagine having to fight all 3 of those guys at once.
:eek:
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=RobertdeMeijer]I think he'd be like David Robinson, a bit stronger, a bit less dexterious.
ShaqAttack makes a good point about defensive systems not being as refined as now. I wonder if Chamberlain could learn to adapt and use more of his strength then.[/QUOTE]
Wilt was a natural scorer, he would have adapted. I use the Adrian Dantley/Charles Barkley comparison. Dantley was a natural scorer. In his prime he would have outscored Barkley eight times out of ten despite being smaller, slower, less athletic, less handle, less range, less explosion, less power, less quickness. He was just natural at scoring. Wilt was the same way.
And you have to factor in they didn't have the same practice facilities and rarely had practice time. Wilt also would have benefited from a lot of modern technology as well. We would have been a quicker and higher leaper as well. He would also have more moves.
He had a touch like Duncan and power like few others. The refs worked against him then, it would be different now. He would be allowed to hop, skip, plow over players, take extra steps with his long legs?
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Re: Why Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in today's game ! Bruce Blitz
[QUOTE=32Dayz]Imagine having to fight all 3 of those guys at once.
:eek:[/QUOTE]
I would change my imagination!