Nets have emerged as favorites for Dwight; Howard expected to ask for deal there.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]WTF are you 12 years old dude? This isnt a pickup game at the local park bro, where we "let people win because they arent good enough"


This is a god damn business. And the business is TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, AND CHAMPIONSHIPS. The more you put into it as owners, the MORE you get out of it.

Wtf so ANY franchise that wins a lot should step aside, and "let someone else contend for a few friggin years?"



Come on now.


[I]"lolz We've been hoggin them rings...you take your turn now"[/I][/QUOTE]

If it's a business, then the owners should just said "hell no" to this deal. And good on them. They just lost 1/3 of a season in revenue to go back into a season where basically only two teams (the Lakers and Heat) have a real shot at the title for the next 4-5 years? Yeah I'd be pissed as an owner too.

Nixed deals happen all the time to a lot of deals in the NBA, most of the time, fans don't know about it.

Business is business, right? So deal with it.

Lakers can go build a good team like most everyone else (through the draft and years of proper development) instead of trying to get bailed out by desperate teams that have to give away their All-Stars.

[QUOTE=ZHAKIDD532]In all seriousness, this would be great for the league. Going into Brooklyn, having 2 real stars playing with one another would be amazing. And Deron Williams has already said publicly if the Nets get Dwight Howard he will definitely stay. With the money Prokhorov has, 2 superstars that compliment each other so perfectly, a new billion dollar arena, this could be incredible.[/QUOTE]


This Makes sense on alot of Levels

[QUOTE=monkeypox]what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?

Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE]


nah...the owners balked and forced Stern to block the deal...I don't know where u r getting your info from...

[QUOTE=monkeypox]what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?

Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE]

lol if people believe this shit they'll believe anything there told by the media. Stern blocks CP3 to L.A, but not Gasol to L.A? Doesn't block LeBron\Bosh\Wade. Doesn't block all the stupid trades that have happened over the years. Just this one. L.A has had tremendous luck over the years(like come the Sac-Town series??) and is one of the best if not the BEST market\franchise out there. What does he gain? What does the NBA gain by doing this. Nothing. Stern if he wanted to could probably change the landscape of the NBA if he truly wanted to. However if you even use a hint of logic than you'd obviously see there's NOTHING to gain by doing what he did today.

However using logic it'd make a ridiculous amount of sense that the NBA owning the Hornets completely changed the landscape of how it's going to go down.

[QUOTE=themurph]nah...the owners balked and forced Stern to block the deal...I don't know where u r getting your info from...[/QUOTE]
league released a statement saying otherwise

[QUOTE=ZHAKIDD532]In all seriousness, this would be great for the league. Going into Brooklyn, having 2 real stars playing with one another would be amazing. And Deron Williams has already said publicly if the Nets get Dwight Howard he will definitely stay. With the money Prokhorov has, 2 superstars that compliment each other so perfectly, a new billion dollar arena, this could be incredible.[/QUOTE]


I honestly wouldnt mind him on the Nets. I'd love to have them actually be a good squad headed into BK.


I just want a damn jersey that has "BROOKLYN" on it.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]WTF are you 12 years old dude? This isnt a pickup game at the local park bro, where we "let people win because they arent good enough"


This is a god damn business. And the business is TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, AND CHAMPIONSHIPS. The more you put into it as owners, the MORE you get out of it.

Wtf so ANY franchise that wins a lot should step aside, and "let someone else contend for a few friggin years?"



Come on now.


[I]"lolz We've been hoggin them rings...you take your turn now"[/I][/QUOTE]

Nooooo. No sir. You were nearly there:

The business is to make money. Lets never forget that. It often gets lost how much money turns this entire world. Sports are no different.

[QUOTE=beeazy]You sir are a true Net fan, always a cynic until something is concrete :)[/QUOTE]
Heh, after braving the 12-70 season, the LeBron sweepstakes, the Melodrama & all that stuff, it makes no sense for me to get overly excited over a rumour. Melo was supposed to be a Net on about 5 separate occasions, so I'm certain this story has a lot more twists & turns on the way tomorrow.

I really, really, really hope it's true, though.

[QUOTE=NuggetsFan][B]lol if people believe this shit they'll believe anything there told by the media[/B]. Stern blocks CP3 to L.A, but not Gasol to L.A? Doesn't block LeBron\Bosh\Wade. Doesn't block all the stupid trades that have happened over the years. Just this one. L.A has had tremendous luck over the years(like come the Sac-Town series??) and is one of the best if not the BEST market\franchise out there. What does he gain? What does the NBA gain by doing this. Nothing. Stern if he wanted to could probably change the landscape of the NBA if he truly wanted to. However if you even use a hint of logic than you'd obviously see there's NOTHING to gain by doing what he did today.

However using logic it'd make a ridiculous amount of sense that the NBA owning the Hornets completely changed the landscape of how it's going to go down.[/QUOTE]
well in all fairness the nba did release an official statement saying Stern veto'd the trade and the owners had no input whatsoever.

Dwight. :pimp:

Pave your own legacy. **** the Lakers.

[QUOTE=Timmy D for MVP]Nooooo. No sir. You were nearly there:

The business is to make money. Lets never forget that. It often gets lost how much money turns this entire world. Sports are no different.[/QUOTE]



Yes, but either way, the Hornets are screwed dude. Paul either gets traded to another team for pieces....he walks on that team after this season, and NO and the other team are left where?


In the SAME situation as with THIS trade...The difference being, he would have signed with LA. And THAT is where the issue lies here....the owners are TIRED of LA contending.



I mean really.....is any other trade, short of them landing another mega-star going to help the Hornets with their attendance?\


Or, even him walking for absolutely nothing?

[QUOTE=oh the horror]I honestly wouldnt mind him on the Nets. I'd love to have them actually be a good squad headed into BK.


I just want a damn jersey that has "BROOKLYN" on it.[/QUOTE]
As a Nets fan, the best part for me is that they would be getting 2 stars together who compliment each other so well. They could actually be the best duo in the league in terms overall talent, age, health, and ability to compliment each other. Wade and James are always stepping on each other's toes, getting in each other's way, and diminishing each other's impact just by the nature of their games. They're still awesome, but they'd both be better off paired up with other players. That's completely the opposite of the case with a potential Williams and Howard duo.

[QUOTE=monkeypox]what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?

Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE]

He needs to be more consistent then.
What happened when Gasol was gifted to the Lakers?
SMH

This is probebly the first time a player was blocked when being traded. The underlying fact being the team is owned by the NBA.

I honestly doubt the NBA/Stern blocks the DH deal. If they did, then it would be intruiging to know their reasons behind blocking the trade.

Chris Paul to the Clips, Dwight to the Nets. How cool would it be to have LA and New York rivalries?

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]well in all fairness the nba did release an official statement saying Stern veto'd the trade and the owners had no input whatsoever.[/QUOTE]

Ya, if I was a commish in charge of a proff business I'd probably say the same exact thing. He can't let the masses know that the owners can completely dictate his choices. He's suppose to be the voice of reason. Anyways that's what I'd assume, just my opinion tho.

However there's not ONE single thing to gain by saying .. nah L.A you can't have Paul. The NBA LOVES it when the Lakers compete. Why not stop Gasol from going to L.A? Would have had less media attention doing so. Paul's a bigger star. Lockout just ended, all eyes on you. Why wait to f*ck over the Lakers now? There's no logical explanation.

Yet if you look at the NBA owning the Hornets? It makes tooo much sense NOT to be true. Seriously like the Hornets dump Paul before the training camp even starts? Why the f*ck wouldn't you wait atleast 15 games until things unfold and you can see where you stand. Maybe you make a playoff run, maybe a team realizes they need to shake shit up. You don't dump your franchise player without careful thought .. esp when the owner of your team is the f*cking NBA.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the deal be tweaked with NO taking less money back, maybe another prospect from a third team(maybe a Budinger?) and Paul still ending up in L.A. It's just going to be a delicate situation and interesting because it's something we've never seen. A top 5 player on a team owned by the league.

Hornets GM bitching explains everything. Dude clearly knows he has no final say in the situation and the NBA is going to decide what happens. Sucks for the Lakers because they won the sweepstakes, isn't a plot against them just a shitty situation.

Nowhere near similar to Howard, who will go wherever he and the Magic owner wants to send him.

Im sure they could get better than Lopez and 2 firsts. Who wants a C that averages 5 boards a game? Especially right after you had Dwight.

Im sure a lot of teams could offer more than that.

So if the Nets win championships first do the Knicks fans jump ship?

[QUOTE=B-Easy8]Im sure they could get better than Lopez and 2 firsts. Who wants a C that averages 5 boards a game? Especially right after you had Dwight.

Im sure a lot of teams could offer more than that.[/QUOTE]

Bulls: Noah, Deng and Taj Gibson.

[QUOTE=ConanRulesNBC]Bulls: Noah, Deng and Taj Gibson.[/QUOTE]

Orlando should take that package and run.

That is way better than anything anyone else is offering, just wondering if Paxson has the balls to do it.

[QUOTE=ConanRulesNBC]So if the Nets win championships first do the Knicks fans jump ship?[/QUOTE]

Fake ones will, yes. Real ones won't.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Yes, but either way, the Hornets are screwed dude. Paul either gets traded to another team for pieces....he walks on that team after this season, and NO and the other team are left where?


In the SAME situation as with THIS trade...The difference being, he would have signed with LA. And THAT is where the issue lies here....the owners are TIRED of LA contending.



I mean really.....is any other trade, short of them landing another mega-star going to help the Hornets with their attendance?\


Or, even him walking for absolutely nothing?[/QUOTE]

My personal take is that they aren't worried about attendance in NO. I think they are resigned to NO being done. I think they are trying to out together a team that will attract the best buyers, who will then move the team elsewhere. And so they feel they're going to need a superstar of some kind. I doubt it'll be Paul unless they already have someone lined up to buy but I think they are going to try to find a marketable player to put in his place.

Again I don't think it has anything to do with them worrying about the team, but a business as a whole.

Bulls or Nets IMO is where he will End up..

[QUOTE=NuggetsFan]Ya, if I was a commish in charge of a proff business I'd probably say the same exact thing. He can't let the masses know that the owners can completely dictate his choices. He's suppose to be the voice of reason. Anyways that's what I'd assume, just my opinion tho.

However there's not ONE single thing to gain by saying .. nah L.A you can't have Paul. The NBA LOVES it when the Lakers compete. Why not stop Gasol from going to L.A? Would have had less media attention doing so. Paul's a bigger star. Lockout just ended, all eyes on you. Why wait to f*ck over the Lakers now? There's no logical explanation.

Yet if you look at the NBA owning the Hornets? It makes tooo much sense NOT to be true. Seriously like the Hornets dump Paul before the training camp even starts? Why the f*ck wouldn't you wait atleast 15 games until things unfold and you can see where you stand. Maybe you make a playoff run, maybe a team realizes they need to shake shit up. You don't dump your franchise player without careful thought .. esp when the owner of your team is the f*cking NBA.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the deal be tweaked with NO taking less money back, maybe another prospect from a third team(maybe a Budinger?) and Paul still ending up in L.A. It's just going to be a delicate situation and interesting because it's something we've never seen. A top 5 player on a team owned by the league.

Hornets GM bitching explains everything. Dude clearly knows he has no final say in the situation and the NBA is going to decide what happens. Sucks for the Lakers because they won the sweepstakes, isn't a plot against them just a shitty situation.

Nowhere near similar to Howard, who will go wherever he and the Magic owner wants to send him.[/QUOTE]

Look, I'm not saying the crybabies had nothing to do with it. But if you're going to come out and say you did it for basketball reasons, then you need to keep to that. If it's going to be about who cries the loudest, then just cop to that and enforce it that way. Either way, functionally what Stern did could have been done whether the NBA owned the team or not right? All the ownership situation did was add some fuel to the fire. So again, why is it so important that the league owns the Hornets when this all could have still happened if the League didn't own the hornets?

[QUOTE=chazzy]inb4 Stern[/QUOTE]
:roll:

Year of listening to offers for Dwight and losing him for nothing in summer 2012.

or

Trading him away for nothing right now...sorry Brook Lopez right now.

Besides MAYBE not the best idea to DEMAND a trade to a specific team, cause that commish does not likey player tampering these days. :lol

[QUOTE=B-Easy8]Im sure they could get better than Lopez and 2 firsts. Who wants a C that averages 5 boards a game? Especially right after you had Dwight.

Im sure a lot of teams could offer more than that.[/QUOTE]
Brook is extremely underrated. how many 7 foot centers average 20ppg?

Bynum>Lopez

[QUOTE=UK-NJ]Heh, after braving the 12-70 season, the LeBron sweepstakes, the Melodrama & all that stuff, it makes no sense for me to get overly excited over a rumour. [B]Melo was supposed to be a Net on about 5 separate occasions, so I'm certain this story has a lot more twists & turns on the way tomorrow.[/B] [/quote]
Melo was never rumored to want trade to NJ. Dwight is rumored to want to be traded to NJ. It's different this time around. I agree though. I'll believe it when I see it.

Nets don't have the best offer by far, but i'd rather what they have then no knees Bynum. Last rumour i heard was Orlando won't be trading him before the trade deadline mid season though, he had a meeting with management and gave ashort list of players he wants them to go after and commited for this season. Broussard is also probably the single worst person i've ever seen regarding terrible rumours from his supposed sources...

[QUOTE=Zedja]Bynum>Lopez[/QUOTE]

At this point are teams, players and agents really going to risk going down the road with the Lakers?

[QUOTE=Nets fan 93]Brook is extremely underrated. how many 7 foot centers average 20ppg?[/QUOTE]

He is 7 foot tall, plays 35 minutes per game and averages 6 boards a game. Didn't his coach call him out about it also?

[QUOTE=Zedja]Bynum>Lopez[/QUOTE]

Factoring that Bynum has the knees of a 40-year-old ... it's pretty close to a wash.

Noah + Deng + Gibson is a way, way, waaaaaay better deal.

[QUOTE=B-Easy8]He is 7 foot tall, plays 35 minutes per game and averages 6 boards a game. Didn't his coach call him out about it also?[/QUOTE]

he also doesn't defend other 5's very good. sure, he's good offensively but he's far from a complete player. that said, he's still a top 5 center which should tell you how weak the position is

[QUOTE=Nets fan 93]Melo was never rumored to want trade to NJ. Dwight is rumored to want to be traded to NJ. It's different this time around. I agree though. I'll believe it when I see it.[/QUOTE]
He's said on numerous occasions that he'd have been OK with NJ being his final destination. He actually thought he was heading to NJ a few days before he was traded to the Knicks, if I remember right? The Nuggets front office just played a few too many games with us in the end.

Granted, Carmelo never said 'I want the Nets' outright, but neither has Dwight. All we have is rumour & conjecture. I would bet you anything that it'll be a topsy turvy ride before we end up at any concrete resolution to the story. Not gonna get too excited.

Stern rejects rumor of trade!

Smokescreen for Howard to LA

[QUOTE=DirtySanchez]Stern rejects rumor of trade![/QUOTE]

For basketball reasons! :oldlol:

[QUOTE=hotsizzle]Smokescreen for Howard to LA[/QUOTE]

Clippers.

[QUOTE=UK-NJ]He's said on numerous occasions that he'd have been OK with NJ being his final destination. He actually thought he was heading to NJ a few days before he was traded to the Knicks, if I remember right? The Nuggets front office just played a few too many games with us in the end.

Granted, Carmelo never said 'I want the Nets' outright, but neither has Dwight. All we have is rumour & conjecture. I would bet you anything that it'll be a topsy turvy ride before we end up at any concrete resolution to the story. Not gonna get too excited.[/QUOTE]
You got a point. The Nets plan b is nene though. I'm fine with that.

Believe this: Lakers will end up getting CP3 and D12....