Consensus #1 pick (according to ISH) finishes w/6 points 9 rebounds against Indiana

[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]And Qwyjibo, go back in your igloo or whatever kind of housing they have in Canada and let me do this. I was the one touting Jonas Valancuinas when you were on Derrick Williams Johnson (get it?), now 9 months later you hyping Valancuinas, huh?

Whatever. For the Raps, Davis actually fits what you all need. MKG as well. Those two should be at the top of your board.[/QUOTE]



You're talking about over-hyping top prospects and ripping on people for changing their minds, when you ripped Kyrie Irving and now slurp him? Shouldn't you just not be talking?


Yep.

[QUOTE=Rowe]No. A "Bust" is someone who comes into the league and clearly doesn't have what it takes to make it. You can recognize that early on for some players.

He just turned 18 years old bruh.

Drummond can immediately make an impact at PF in the NBA, hes more comfortable playing PF rather than banging down low as a C. Hes at his best when he can face up and take shots or finish strong at the rim. At his size they're going to move him to Center in hopes he develops the instincts needed to be a dominant C.

If you look at the 2 best C's:

It took Dwight 4 years to come into his own as a #1 option.
It took Bynum 7 years to come into his own as an impact performer each night.

We're not going to know how good Drummond will be until hes 23-25 years old, so the whole "Bust" talk really wont matter. We'll know who the biggest Busts are in the 2012 NBA Draft by the time Drummond finishes developing his skills.[/QUOTE]
Dwight still isn't a #1 option, BRUH. But he is, and always has been, a great rebounder and defensive presence in the paint.

Can't say the same for Drummond.

Tristeza.

[QUOTE=JerrySteakhouse]:roll:
I dunno, I think hes legit. I mean you can't get worse than Kwame.[/QUOTE]
Kwame was an overnight sensation before he became the #1 pick.

Same with Darko.

These guys popped up within 5 month-9 months before the NBA Draft as being considered "Elite" prospects. NBA GM's did not do their due diligence in terms of scouting either player extensively before they entered their respective drafts. They saw a 5-9 month period of "potential" and gambled on it.

Drummond has been scouted/covered since he was maybe 14 years old. His family put him in prep school immediately to shield him from any sort of outside influences so he could develop his game. Im certain NBA GM's have done their homework on Drummond far more than they did on the likes of Kwame or Darko.

Its been firmly understood he would be the #1 pick whenever he came out based on the talent he showcases, and his freakish physical ability for a now 6'11 man. Thats one of the reasons I made a thread a few months ago comparing him to a young Shaq in that aspect. Drummond's a physical freak of nature. Just hope he stays healthy.

If he hadn't been so sheltered from the media/public as a prospect, there would be far more stories to tell about his athletic ability.

[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve][B]Dwight still isn't a #1 option, BRUH.[/B] But he is, and always has been, a great rebounder and defensive presence in the paint.

Can't say the same for Drummond.[/QUOTE]

Stop.

[QUOTE=Whoah10115]You're talking about over-hyping top prospects and ripping on people for changing their minds, when you ripped Kyrie Irving and now slurp him? Shouldn't you just not be talking?


Yep.[/QUOTE]
You think you know something about me yet I actually know nothing about you.

See the difference?

In the meanwhile, I remain a GAWD of my time who consistently supplies razor sharp scouting analysis. F*ck who you are. Additionally, you have a join date of Dec 2011. I should make you bow to my bunions, sucka.

[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]1. He's a finesse big who isn't greatly skilled
2. Struggles to gain low post position
3. Plays with below average awareness and basketball IQ
4. Can't shoot free throws
5. Doesn't display consistent basketball fundamentals


Need more? He essentially plays like he's content being the biggest guy on the court. That will get you by in high school and college, not the pros.[/QUOTE]

All of these things are fixable though, and he has shown offensive skill, the biggest problem is that his "PG" is 2nd in shot attempts per game on his team. The Uconn backcourt doesn't really try to get him the ball unless their own shot isn't available.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2l_Qwmf5Qk[/url]

Look at all the different ways he scored, jump hook, turn around, jumpshots etc.

[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]1. He's a finesse big who isn't greatly skilled[/quote]
How many big men are at his age?

If we're talking "low post skills" then definetly hes at a disadvantage like most big men are today.

But if you're talking about his ability to handle the ball, his touch around the basket, and timing on his blocks then you're wrong.

[quote]2. Struggles to gain low post position[/quote]
True. He prefers to play like a Forward.

[quote]3. Plays with below average awareness and basketball IQ[/quote]
Once again, how many big men are at his age?
Hes a freshman. Point Blank.

Everything hes doing is typically normal from most freshmen players, espescially the big men.

They have their moments of greatness and moments where they look like teenagers who aren't fully aware of whats going on.
[quote]4. Can't shoot free throws[/quote]
That can be improved upon.
[quote]5. Doesn't display consistent basketball fundamentals[/quote]
Thats essentially 3 worded differently.


[quote]Need more? He essentially plays like he's content being the biggest guy on the court. That will get you by in high school and college, not the pros.[/QUOTE]
Its firmly understood he has a lot to work on and improve on when he gets to the NBA. Thats why I said his timetable could be anywhere from 4-7 years before we really see him at his best.

You cant expect him to be the total package at C in the NBA at such a young age. Any team who drafts him will have to cultivate him to be a C or let him go free and do as he pleases at PF where he feels more comfortable.

[QUOTE]I was the one touting Jonas Valancuinas when you were on Derrick Williams Johnson (get it?), now 9 months later you hyping Valancuinas, huh?[/QUOTE]
Cool. Thanks for confirming you don't read ANYONE'S posts and just bask in your own psychotic narcissism. I many times said I wouldn't want Derrick Williams on the Raptors (if they got lucky in the lottery) before last year's draft.

Opinion disregarded.

[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]Forthe Cavs, they need the following, in order:

1a. Perry Jones III
1b. Michael Kidd Gilchrist
3. Andre Drummond
4. Jeremy Lamb
5. Harrison Barnes

This is how their top 5 Big Board should look. Perry is the most skilled guy in the draft, period. He fits perfectly with Kyrie Irving. He is a low post threat who runs the floor and has range comfortably out to 20 feet. Cavs could run P&R all day with those two. And I mean ALL DAY. F*ck the p*ssies who cry about his assertiveness. Skills > "Motor". You all kill me with that sh*t. It happens every draft and that's why the LaMarcus Aldridge and Rudy Gay's of the world get passed over every draft only to make three or four teams look stupid ass hell for not doing their homework.

The draft overall is strong. As normal, a great majority of the masses are overestimating the talents of the most hyped prospects (Davis, Drummond). MKG will be a baller and is the person I want after PJIII.[/QUOTE]
'Motor' really has nothing to do with it. I don't think assertiveness and 'motor' are the same thing at all. I don't doubt that Jones will try hard and that he is a guy that genuinely wants to reach his potential. However, you are either born with that assertiveness gene or you aren't.

Guys like Marvin Williams can have all of the skill and talent in the world, but they will never be truly great players because they aren't comfortable in that role. That is what I fear with Perry Jones.

I'm not saying I want nothing to do with him. He is talented enough and has the kind of frame that makes you think he could be a special player on the next level and maybe he will be... But, the thing I worry about most (assertiveness) is what the other guy at the top of your board has in spades.

MKG is an alpha. No doubt.

I fear Jones might have a little omega in his blood.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic][IMG]http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ANDRE-DRUMMOND-DUNK.gif[/IMG]


Drummond is going #1 anyway.[/QUOTE]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist <--------------- that's the guy i want @ #1

[QUOTE]That is something that all small markets should be aware of when making these kinds of franchise-altering selections.
[/QUOTE]

No young star im aware of has passed up his first chance at a big payday so anyone you draft who becomes a star is gonna be yours for at least 7 or 8 years. No GM is gonna draft based on his picks possible desire 8 years in the future. GMs have to prove themselves in much shorter timeframes than that. Not about to let the next star go to some other team because in 8 years he might leave. Gms thinking like that get fired long before that 8 years is up. Even an owner like Gilbert I cant see signing off on such a thing.

If the next Blake comes along but hes born and raised in LA and talks about dreaming of being a laker or if not a laker...a Knick...the Cavs would still draft him. And be right to do so.

7-8 years is a long time to build your team. Most stars arent anywhere for that long anyway.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]No young star im aware of has passed up his first chance at a big payday so anyone you draft who becomes a star is gonna be yours for at least 7 or 8 years. No GM is gonna draft based on his picks possible desire 8 years in the future. GMs have to prove themselves in much shorter timeframes than that. Not about to let the next star go to some other team because in 8 years he might leave. Gms thinking like that get fired long before that 8 years is up. Even an owner like Gilbert I cant see signing off on such a thing.

If the next Blake comes along but hes born and raised in LA and talks about dreaming of being a laker or if not a laker...a Knick...the Cavs would still draft him. And be right to do so.

7-8 years is a long time to build your team. Most stars arent anywhere for that long anyway.[/QUOTE]
Deron Williams was in New Jersey for 5 1/2 seasons, not 7-8 seasons. Paul was in NO for 6 seasons.

If the next "Blake" comes along and talks about wanting to play for the Lakers or Knicks, I would hope that the Cavs wouldn't draft him. You have big-time players forcing their way to the franchises of their choosing these days.

It should absolutely be taken into account by small market teams.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Deron Williams was in New Jersey for 5 1/2 seasons, not 7-8 seasons. Paul was in NO for 6 seasons.

If the next "Blake" comes along and talks about wanting to play for the Lakers or Knicks, I would hope that the Cavs wouldn't draft him. You have big-time players forcing their way to the franchises of their choosing these days.

It should absolutely be taken into account by small market teams.[/QUOTE]


Kevin Durant constantly talks about his love for the DMV area, if you used that rationale you'd pass up on him.

The key theme with Cp3, Melo, Deron, LeBron, Dwight and Bosh is that management failed to get a secondary star next to them while the Thunder have complimented Durant with Westbrook.

You can't be afraid to draft someone because they crave the bright lights, get great players around them and it won't matter.

[QUOTE=abuC]Kevin Durant constantly talks about his love for the DMV area, if you used that rationale you'd pass up on him.

[B]The key theme with Cp3, Melo, Deron, LeBron, Dwight and Bosh is that management failed to get a secondary star next to them[/B] while the Thunder have complimented Durant with Westbrook.

You can't be afraid to draft someone because they crave the bright lights, get great players around them and it won't matter.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to get into it, but James never had any intention of staying here and it is abundantly clear in retrospect. Durant is a different thing, because he is a very high character guy and a grounded individual. Like I said in my initial post, that has to be weighed heavily by small markets.

Loving your hometown and plainly stating you'd love to play for a couple of franchises other than the one who may draft you are completely different things.

Tristan Thompson was selected at No. 4 partly because of his high character. And I'm all for it.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I don't want to get into it, but James never had any intention of staying here and it is abundantly clear in retrospect. Durant is a different thing, because he is a very high character guy and a grounded individual. Like I said in my initial post, that has to be weighed heavily by small markets.

Loving your hometown and plainly stating you'd love to play for a couple of franchises other than the one who may draft you are completely different things.

Tristan Thompson was selected at No. 4 partly because of his high character. And I'm all for it.[/QUOTE]

I don't agree, I think had the Cavs been able to pair LeBron up with someone while he was still in his first 3 years he would have stayed because the odds of winning a title would be much higher. I think Paxson really ruined any chance of LeBron staying early on, losing Boozer, trading a first round pick for Jiri Welsch :roll: and taking Luke Jackson over Al Jefferson/Josh Smith. It was just terrible move one after the other and set the franchise back 3-4 years.


But, Durant loves the DMV area and has a huge Maryland tattoo, he could bolt for the Wiz in a few years if the Thunder bottom out, right? Like I said man, the common theme between all the teams losing their stars is that none of them had secondary star players.

[QUOTE=abuC]I don't agree, I think had the Cavs been able to pair LeBron up with someone while he was still in his first 3 years he would have stayed because the odds of winning a title would be much higher. I think Paxson really ruined any chance of LeBron staying early on, losing Boozer, trading a first round pick for Jiri Welsch :roll: and taking Luke Jackson over Al Jefferson/Josh Smith. It was just terrible move one after the other and set the franchise back 3-4 years.


But, Durant loves the DMV area and has a huge Maryland tattoo, he could bolt for the Wiz in a few years if the Thunder bottom out, right? Like I said man, the common theme between all the teams losing their stars is that none of them had secondary star players.[/QUOTE]
The whole Jiri Welsch thing is overstated. The pick that was traded was a first rounder in '07 and that turned out to be a very late pick that ended up no better than Welsch. I'm sure we could have gotten LeBron's No. 2 man with that pick.
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And, unfortunately, you don't have 20/20 vision when actually picking in the draft that you do in looking back years later. A lot of teams took inferior players over Smith and Jefferson. Also, as if either of those two guys would be the difference between James staying or leaving?

Nah. He was always going to leave. It is obvious in retrospect, which is why he pleaded with the organization to trade away any assets that it might have to build a foundation to 'win now' with vets that have bloated contracts.

Durant and James couldn't be further apart in their approach to the franchises that drafted them. Durant dealt with the losing for several years at the start of his career. James was already threatening to leave by the time his first player option came along.

The Thunder picked in the Top 5... What? 3-4 years in a row? The Cavs were never even close to that bad in the James years.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]The whole Jiri Welsch thing is overstated. The pick that was traded was a first rounder in '07 and that turned out to be a very late pick that ended up no better than Welsch. I'm sure we could have gotten LeBron's No. 2 man with that pick.
]
And, unfortunately, you don't have 20/20 vision when actually picking in the draft that you do in looking back years later. A lot of teams took inferior players over Smith and Jefferson. Also, as if either of those two guys would be the difference between James staying or leaving?

Nah. He was always going to leave. [B]It is obvious in retrospect, which is why he pleaded with the organization to trade away any assets that it might have to build a foundation to 'win now' with vets that have bloated contracts.

[/B]Durant and James couldn't be further apart in their approach to the franchises that drafted them. Durant dealt with the losing for several years at the start of his career. James was already threatening to leave by the time his first player option came along.

The Thunder picked in the Top 5... What? 3-4 years in a row? The Cavs were never even close to that bad in the James years.[/QUOTE]

So now Cavs fans have begun believing that LeBron purposely wanted to screw over the Cavs.

:oldlol:

[quote=RedBlackAttack]Deron Williams was in New Jersey for 5 1/2 seasons, not 7-8 seasons. Paul was in NO for 6 seasons.

If the next "Blake" comes along and talks about wanting to play for the Lakers or Knicks, I would hope that the Cavs wouldn't draft him. You have big-time players forcing their way to the franchises of their choosing these days.

It should absolutely be taken into account by small market teams.[/quote]

Deron has been under his rookie or second Jazz contract since summer 05. Its 2012. He couldnt leave for 7 years+. They decided to get rid of him assuming he wouldnt sign back. But fact is they had the ability to keep him for 7 years. This would be pauls 7th season in NO but he wasnt gonna sign after that so they did the smart thing and let him go early. Melo was in Denver all but 27 games of 8 years. Dwight has been on the Magic for 8 years. Amare was a Sun for 8 years. Lebron a Cav for 7. Bosh a raptor for 7.

These are not pitstops. Teams are built torn down and rebuilt....and torn down again...in less than 7-8 years.

If the Cavs can sign the next Blake they arent gonna take the next Al harrington because he seems less needy of the bright lights. They arent gonna be thinking "Well...in 2020 this might be a problem". They are thinking of the national tv coverage coming back,. the jersey sales, and someone to help make up that 100 million a year hole Lebron left in the city.

If you are gonna pass up all time greats because you are afraid what might happen in 6-8 years you might as well fold the franchise. You can never tell. Reggie Miller is a lifetime Laker fan from LA who played damn near 20 years in Indiana....and for all the talk of what is different now...I still see Dirks, and Duncans, and Durants(I suspect he stays) and Roses and plenty of others I suspect will have long careers where they are.

If you go in passing up talent because of a potential problem nearly a decade from now...that you can likely prevent if you manage the team well enough...you are just giving up. Cleveland gets mocked jokingly and all....but cmon. You cant be so afraid of the impression your town makes as to pass up a Blake like talent out of fear he will be miserable.

And ive always hated the idea that choosing not to sign to a team you dont want to play for anymore is a character issue. IT tells nothing of what you are as a person. Karl Malone plays in Utah for 19 years....and has sex with 11 year old girls and has to be taken to court over not wanting to pay 125 dollars in child support. Chris Paul has....worse character?

[QUOTE=abuC]I don't agree, I think had the Cavs been able to pair LeBron up with someone while he was still in his first 3 years he would have stayed because the odds of winning a title would be much higher. I think Paxson really ruined any chance of LeBron staying early on, losing Boozer, trading a first round pick for Jiri Welsch :roll: and taking Luke Jackson over Al Jefferson/Josh Smith. It was just terrible move one after the other and set the franchise back 3-4 years.


But, Durant loves the DMV area and has a huge Maryland tattoo, he could bolt for the Wiz in a few years if the Thunder bottom out, right? Like I said man, the common theme between all the teams losing their stars is that none of them had secondary star players.[/QUOTE]


toronto agreed to a trade for bosh in the 2010 offseason. we just had to wait on lebron to say he would stay, he refused to answer the question so we didnt do the trade.

also in the 2008-2009 offseasons we could have signed a couple good players. all of them asked lebron if he was gonna stay and once again he refused to answer.

it was partly his fault we could get any good free agents.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]And ive always hated the idea that choosing not to sign to a team you dont want to play for anymore is a character issue. IT tells nothing of what you are as a person. Karl Malone plays in Utah for 19 years....and has sex with 11 year old girls and has to be taken to court over not wanting to pay 125 dollars in child support. Chris Paul has....worse character?[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying that a guy leaving the franchise who drafted him is a character issue. I'm saying that teams should at least attempt to evaluate whether or not a player wants to play for a franchise and if they are of high character. One doesn't necessarily go along with the other.

I never equated the two.

Lets say next year an unknown player by the name of Adonis McMasco starts owning college basketball. I mean this guy comes in playing the 4 and drops 27/14 leading his "Thats a D1 team? For real?" level team to the sweet sixteen before winning the next 3 national titles. Last 3 years he puts up 32/15, 32/16, and 34/12 sweeping all the awards each year. The title game of his senior year is a 51/29/8 block/8 assist/4 steal game where me makes the title winning 3 over not one but two of Shawn Kemps basketball playing kids.

Hes projected to be the exact midpoint between Hakeem and Tmac in his prime.

Cavs have the #1 pick. Brooklyn Nets have the #2 pick.

Kid is from Brooklyn and openly admits he would love to play for his hometown team and says little to nothing about Cleveland.

Night before the draft hes asked if he will go to the Cavs if picked. He says "I'll go anywhere. Free agency still exists right? But all that is down the line. Im just trying to be the best player I can be and not let everyone down. All the rest I can leave to my agent for now".

Do you want to pick him? Trade the pick just in case he will be a problem in....4 to 8 yearS?

Just trying to get a feel for how big an issue this is for you.

[QUOTE=Rowe]So now Cavs fans have begun believing that LeBron purposely wanted to screw over the Cavs.

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]



That's clearly not what he said. He said that Lebron didn't give a shit about the long-term because he was only in for the short-term and subsequently pushed the front office to make a bunch of middle of the road moves and accommodate his own personal considerations.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]And ive always hated the idea that choosing not to sign to a team you dont want to play for anymore is a character issue.[/QUOTE]

great point. it really bothers me when people take up this line of reasoning.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Michael Kidd-Gilchrist <--------------- that's the guy i want @ #1[/QUOTE]

Gilchrist has no chance to be #1 :roll:

[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]great point. it really bothers me when people take up this line of reasoning.[/QUOTE]
Even when that wasn't the line of reasoning being used? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Gilchrist has no chance to be #1 :roll:[/QUOTE]
Good. I want him a little further down.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Good. I want him a little further down.[/QUOTE]

Like around 8 or 9?

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Even when that wasn't the line of reasoning being used? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

In general, that line of reasoning bothers me. My post wasn't accusing you...:confusedshrug::cheers:

How can you tell who is the high character kid between Anthony Davis and MGK? :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=GOBB]How can you tell who is the high character kid between Anthony Davis and MGK? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Have you ever heard MGK speak?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GksjzD7-oUQ[/url]

Man its gonna get ugly on Draft Day.

The boy aint 100% there in the head.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I think he could play either spot. He is athletic enough and a good enough defender to stay with 2s and his offensive game will eventually be refined enough to fill that kind of role, imo. At 6-foot-7, he would be very difficult for 2s to deal with on the other side of the ball, because he has been working on his post play.

I think he is more naturally at 3 at this stage of the game, though, and his 7-foot wingspan makes up for any height problems on the next level. His raw athleticism and large frame would probably make him a SF at the start of his career.

He is a pretty damned versatile player, though. He isn't a 'tweener' that would have hard time finding his place, I don't think.... He is the kind of guy that could play multiple positions.[/QUOTE]

I've been saying all season long in the College Hoops forum that MKG might be my favorite prospect this year. Yes, Anthony Davis and Andre Drummond have higher ceilings but I LOVE Gilchrist's game. I see him with Scottie Pippen type ability. I'm not saying he's the next Scottie Pippen or anything, but I think he's from the same ilk. I don't think he'll ever be a 20-25 ppg scorer in the league but he can be a solid 16-18/8/3/2/1 second option on a contender. He's a long and rangy SF/SG type that can defend multiple positions, can already get to the rim off the bounce, and has a high motor. Needs to become more consistent with his jumper but he just oozes so much potential IMO. Also, what's really opened my eyes to him is that he's come up big in some of Kentucky's biggest games this year.

vs. Kansas: 12 pts, 9 reb, 4 ast, 3 blk, 1 stl, 4/9 FG, 1/3 3P, 3/5 FT
vs. UNC: 17 pts, 11 reb, 1 blk, 1 stl, 6/10 FG, 0/1 3P, 5/7 FT
at Indiana: 18 pts, 9 reb, 2 stl, 1 blk, 9/12 FG
[B]vs. Louisville: 24 pts, 19 reb, 7/16 FG, 2/4 3P, 8/13 FT[/B]
at Tennessee: 17 pts, 12 reb, 3 stl, 1 blk, 4/11 FG, 1/1 3P, 8/12 FT


That Louisville line is very impressive. Their game against UNC featured about 12-14 future NBA players and, on that day, Kidd-Gilchrist was the best player on the floor. He attacks the offensive glass relentlessly for a 6'7" SF, too, which I love.

Not saying I would take him over Drummond or Davis, but if I had the 3rd or 4th pick I'd have a very hard time passing him up. I even like how his game translates to the NBA (right now) slightly better than Harrison Barnes' game. As far as SF's go they're 1a and 1b in my mind, but I like MKG's NBA prospects a little more, and this is coming from a huge UNC fan.

I bet your dumbass is not watching Anthony Davis right now. Thread fail and future bump when Davis owns and you pretend you always liked him. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=GOBB]I bet your dumbass is not watching Anthony Davis right now. Thread fail and future bump when Davis owns and you pretend you always liked him. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

PB cant lose credibility, since he never had any

[QUOTE=chips93]PB cant lose credibility, since he never had any[/QUOTE]
Wow, harsh :roll:

[QUOTE=Rowe]Have you ever heard MGK speak?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GksjzD7-oUQ[/url]

Man its gonna get ugly on Draft Day.

The boy aint 100% there in the head.[/QUOTE]

Just looks like a guy who couldn't care less about the reporters. Never makes eye contact with the person holding the mic.

[QUOTE=Fiasco]Just looks like a guy who couldn't care less about the reporters. Never makes eye contact with the person holding the mic.[/QUOTE]

I dont think its that. He's just not comfortable with speaking in public. You can see in other interviews he often stutters and is nervous even when he attempts to hide it. I bet he dropped classes after the syllabus said[I] "oral presentations"[/I] to avoid them. :oldlol:

He's killing Florida by the way. :bowdown:

[QUOTE=GOBB]I dont think its that. He's just not comfortable with speaking in public. You can see in other interviews he often stutters and is nervous even when he attempts to hide it. I bet he dropped classes after the syllabus said[I] "oral presentations"[/I] to avoid them. :oldlol:

He's killing Florida by the way. :bowdown:[/QUOTE]

[B]MKG[/B]

Michael (another name for Jesus). Kidd (we'll assume that extra 'd' is a typo). Gilchrist (gil = "promise", Christ = "the anointed one").

What we're looking at is the Messiah of Basketball.

Jesus, Child of the Promised and Anointed One.

[I]We are not worthy. [/I] :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: