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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
[QUOTE=WillC]If you say so, troll.
Wilt was quicker, stronger, a better leaper. If he played today, it's fair to say he'd have an even bigger advantage in those areas due to today's training methods, nutrition, etc.
In terms of his skill set, Wilt has Bynum beat in every area except free throw shooting:
- Wilt was an infinitely better ball-handler and passer, which he honed in his time with the Globetrotters.
- Wilt had a legendary finger roll.
- Wilt had a very effective turn-around jump shot.
- Wilt was one of the best rebounders ever (if not [I]the [/I]best).
- Wilt was a ferocious shot-blocker.
Keep living in your dream world where everything gets better as the years go by. I wonder what you'll think of Jordan in 50 years' time? I assume every shooting guard in the league in 2062 will be better players than Jordan was :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Wilt dominated shorter, weaker players it's just fact dude
blocking and rebounding against 6'8"-6'10" 200-220 lb players means he would dominate the league today? :rolleyes:
stronger?
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/BynumGasol.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8_ENa7sVpug/TNOucfV3SnI/AAAAAAAAPaA/uOX0CufP-zM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+was+congratulated+by+fans+9.jpg[/IMG]
and look at the 6'4"-6'8" center next to him, that is what he dominated
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[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]I'm not discrediting that Wilt for being tall
I'm just laying some facts that he played against small centers, much smaller
Imagine Andrew Bynum in that era, only 2-3 centers are 7' and none of them are close to 250 pounds :lol[/QUOTE]
Like imagining Shaq in the 2000's :lol
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[QUOTE=-23-]You'd have to be a retard to think he can dunk from the FT-line with 3 steps. Like an actual ****ing retard. How ****ing stupid are you? :facepalm
He'd have to jump with a 50" vertical to gain the horizontal distance to cover that distance, from 3 steps. You're a ****ing moron, never post again.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, who are we going to believe? The guy who clearly took the time to explain his point intelligently, or the guy who can't get his point across without swearing and throwing an immature little tantrum?
Difficult decision...
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[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]:oldlol: no he wouldn't, he'll be lucky to be as good as Bynum[/QUOTE]
Your silly child.....
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
[QUOTE=WillC]If you say so, troll.
Wilt was quicker, stronger, a better leaper. If he played today, it's fair to say he'd have an even bigger advantage in those areas due to today's training methods, nutrition, etc.
In terms of his skill set, Wilt has Bynum beat in every area except free throw shooting:
- Wilt was an infinitely better ball-handler and passer, which he honed in his time with the Globetrotters.
- Wilt had a legendary finger roll.
- Wilt had a very effective turn-around jump shot.
- Wilt was one of the best rebounders ever (if not [I]the [/I]best).
- Wilt was a ferocious shot-blocker.
Keep living in your dream world where everything gets better as the years go by. I wonder what you'll think of Jordan in 50 years' time? I assume every shooting guard in the league in 2062 will be better players than Jordan was :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Look at his avatar....this kid is just a baby....go easy on him...:pimp:
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[quote=-23-]You'd have to be a retard to think he can dunk from the FT-line with 3 steps. Like an actual ****ing retard. How ****ing stupid are you? :facepalm
He'd have to jump with a 50" vertical to gain the horizontal distance to cover that distance, from 3 steps. You're a ****ing moron, never post again.[/quote]
Watch the video I posted then delete your post.
The rules committe changed the rule of moving past FT line til ball hits rim because he was doing it.
Dont reply til you watch the video.
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[QUOTE=-23-]You'd have to be a retard to think he can dunk from the FT-line with 3 steps. Like an actual ****ing retard. How ****ing stupid are you? :facepalm
He'd have to jump with a 50" vertical to gain the horizontal distance to cover that distance, from 3 steps. You're a ****ing moron, never post again.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
tired of all this Wilt bullshit
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[QUOTE=bwink23]Your silly child.....[/QUOTE]
"your"....and I'm the silly child?
What does Wilt have over Bynum other than jumping and running?I've seen Wilt's highlights and there just jumping over and putting in shots over smaller weaker players
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[QUOTE=G-train]Watch the video I posted then delete your post.
The rules committe changed the rule of moving past FT line til ball hits rim because he was doing it.
Dont reply til you watch the video.[/QUOTE]
Watch what? Take a freshman physics course and come back to me. I've done enough physics in my engineering major to know that for a 250lb+ mass to generate the momentum, and height needed to dunk on a 10 foot rim on 3 steps is impossible. You're a idiot. Tall tales are exactly that, TALL TALES. You're a ****in moron, keep sucking Wilt's dick.
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[QUOTE=WillC]Hmmm, who are we going to believe? The guy who clearly took the time to explain his point intelligently, or the guy who can't get his point across without swearing and throwing an immature little tantrum?
Difficult decision...[/QUOTE]
Yes, lets trust every quote regarding Wilt, especially his own.
Wilt said that he crushed a mountain lion, that he had a 50 inch vertical, that he slept with 20 000 ladies, that he'd score 70 points per game in the modern era etc..
And then we should also trust all the other people's quotes a la, Wilt broke a guys toe with a basketball (not even possible, learn some physics), Wilt could dunk from the FT-line with 3 small steps, Wilt was a world class volleyball player etc..
The quotes and the stupidity never ends..
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[QUOTE=-23-]You'd have to be a retard to think he can dunk from the FT-line with 3 steps. Like an actual ****ing retard. How ****ing stupid are you? :facepalm
He'd have to jump with a 50" vertical to gain the horizontal distance to cover that distance, from 3 steps. You're a ****ing moron, never post again.[/QUOTE]:roll: :roll:
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[QUOTE=millwad]Yes, lets trust every quote regarding Wilt, especially his own.
Wilt said that he crushed a mountain lion, that he had a 50 inch vertical, that he slept with 20 000 ladies, that he'd score 70 points per game in the modern era etc..
And then we should also trust all the other people's quotes a la, Wilt broke a guys toe with a basketball (not even possible, learn some physics), Wilt could dunk from the FT-line with 3 small steps, Wilt was a world class volleyball player etc..
The quotes and the stupidity never ends..[/QUOTE]
I was actually referring to Pointguard's post compared with -23-'s.
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[QUOTE=WillC]Hmmm, who are we going to believe? The guy who clearly took the time to explain his point intelligently, or the guy who can't get his point across without swearing and throwing an immature little tantrum?
Difficult decision...[/QUOTE]
And who the **** are you? Another Wilt dick sucker? How's all that *** taste you daft pig. The fact that you can believe he can dunk the FT on 3 steps makes you a ****in moron.
:no: Not even a video of him ever SHOWING him cover both horizontal or vertical feats to dunk the FT line, let alone in 3 steps.
You'd think, something like that would be filmed, or at least a picture taken?
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[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]
[IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8_ENa7sVpug/TNOucfV3SnI/AAAAAAAAPaA/uOX0CufP-zM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+was+congratulated+by+fans+9.jpg[/IMG]
and look at the 6'4"-6'8" center next to him, that is what he dominated[/QUOTE]
Let me guess, you think this photo is an action shot from an NBA game?
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[quote=-23-]Watch what? Take a freshman physics course and come back to me. I've done enough physics in my engineering major to know that for a 250lb+ mass to generate the momentum, and height needed to dunk on a 10 foot rim on 3 steps is impossible. You're a idiot. Tall tales are exactly that, TALL TALES. You're a ****in moron, keep sucking Wilt's dick.[/quote]
Ok your made up physics > Tex Winters eye witness account. :facepalm
I doubted he could do it until I saw that video.
Nice internet tough guy insults. :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=G-train]Ok your made up physics > Tex Winters eye witness account. :facepalm
I doubted he could do it until I saw that video.
Nice internet tough guy insults. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:roll: You actually believe it :oldlol: :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]"your"....and I'm the silly child?
What does Wilt have over Bynum other than jumping and running?I've seen Wilt's highlights and there just jumping over and putting in shots over smaller weaker players[/QUOTE]
Yes, your a child....only children feel the need to correct grammatical errors. Nice avatar by the way. Children would take the time to seek it out and use it, like a true hype-driven little drone.....
Call me when you sprout your first pube son. :pimp:
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[quote=Deuce Bigalow]:roll: You actually believe it :oldlol: :oldlol:[/quote]
Watch the video.
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[QUOTE=-23-]Watch what? Take a freshman physics course and come back to me. I've done enough physics in my engineering major to know that for a 250lb+ mass to generate the momentum, and height needed to dunk on a 10 foot rim on 3 steps is impossible. You're a idiot. Tall tales are exactly that, TALL TALES. You're a ****in moron, keep sucking Wilt's dick.[/QUOTE]
How about you go ahead then and post those calculations here for us to see...
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[QUOTE=G-train]Ok your made up physics > Tex Winters eye witness account. :facepalm
I doubted he could do it until I saw that video.
Nice internet tough guy insults. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
You're the bigger moron to believe it.
Eye witness accounts? SO you think 9/11 missiles hit the WTC because of "eye witness accounts" or bombs going off because of "eye witness accounts".
Take off the tin foil hat, it's cutting off your circulation.
Moron.
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[QUOTE=bwink23]Yes, your a child....only children feel the need to correct grammatical errors. Nice avatar by the way. Children would take the time to seek it out and use it, like a true hype-driven little drone.....
Call me when you sprout your first pube son. :pimp:[/QUOTE]
What happened? too busy watching space jam instead of doing your homework when you were a child?
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[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]
[IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8_ENa7sVpug/TNOucfV3SnI/AAAAAAAAPaA/uOX0CufP-zM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+was+congratulated+by+fans+9.jpg[/IMG]
and[B][U] look at the 6'4"-6'8" center next to him[/U][/B], that is what he dominated[/QUOTE]
So the "[I][B]6'4"- 6'8" center next to[/B][/I] Wilt" who happens to be wearing the exact same team jersey that Wilt is wearing is the guy that Wilt dominated?
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[quote=Deuce Bigalow]I'm not discrediting that Wilt for being tall
I'm just laying some facts that he played against small centers, much smaller
Imagine Andrew Bynum in that era, only 2-3 centers are 7' and none of them are close to 250 pounds :lol[/quote]
Bynum can't even run with Wilt, Russell & Thurmond up the court. How is he supposed to compete with them when he can't even keep up without getting gassed. After a quarter of fighting Wilt for position under the boards he would look towards Coach Brown on the bench to pull him for a breather. Against Wilt & Nate he would be at a length disadvantage as well. He'd be unable to outreach, outmuscle, outposition, outquick, outjump, outrun, and ultimately outplay either of them. Wilt would block all of shot his attempts, while Nate would forbid him from even looking at the basket.
Can you say with a straight face that Bynum can run with Russell or even an overweight Bellamy?
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYj0wXPY1s#t=13m12s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYj0wXPY1s#t=13m12s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzaki4yEC4s#t=4m7s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzaki4yEC4s#t=4m7s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtG7-I2wBw#t=4m42s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtG7-I2wBw#t=4m42s[/URL]
[I][B]'Quick Talk w/ Nate Thurmond,"Extra Sauce", Bret Dougherty, 3/15/2004[/B]
[I]However, Nate
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[QUOTE=bwink23]How about you go ahead then and post those calculations here for us to see...[/QUOTE]
It does not take a engineer to conclude that a 250lb+ guy has to jump 18" (horizontal distance), while the effects of DRAG, and GRAVITY are pulling you down. How much speed you think he can get from 3 steps while losing over 2 feet a second while in the air?
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[QUOTE=-23-]And who the **** are you? Another Wilt dick sucker? How's all that *** taste you daft pig. The fact that you can believe he can dunk the FT on 3 steps makes you a ****in moron.
:no: Not even a video of him ever SHOWING him cover both horizontal or vertical feats to dunk the FT line, let alone in 3 steps.
You'd think, something like that would be filmed, or at least a picture taken?[/QUOTE]
First off it's more than capable of being done... Wilt use to do it in practice by getting a three to four step running start. Don't forget this is a guy who held NCAA records for the high jump and triple jump besides being a basketball standout. He never did it in a game, even Wilt admits to that but he did do it with the Harlem Globetrotters in his time there. Not sure if doing it against the New Jersey Generals counts
As for being filmed they didn't even film playoff games most of the time back then. And even those that were filmed are long gone now... Just a handful of films from that era remain
Ask yourself this if it's impossible to do why did the NCAA and one year later the NBA both put rules in place to ban players from jumping or taking steps while shooting free throws.
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[QUOTE=PHILA]Bynum can't even run with Wilt, Russell & Thurmond up the court. How is he supposed to compete with them when he can't even keep up without getting gassed. After a quarter of fighting Wilt for position under the boards he would look towards Coach Brown on the bench to pull him for a breather. Against Wilt & Nate he would be at a length disadvantage as well. He'd be unable to outreach, outmuscle, outposition, outquick, outjump, outrun, and ultimately outplay either of them. Wilt would block all of shot his attempts, while Nate would forbid him from even looking at the basket.
Can you say with a straight face that Bynum can run with Russell or even an overweight Bellamy?
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYj0wXPY1s#t=13m12s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYj0wXPY1s#t=13m12s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzaki4yEC4s#t=4m7s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzaki4yEC4s#t=4m7s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtG7-I2wBw#t=4m42s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtG7-I2wBw#t=4m42s[/URL]
[I][B]'Quick Talk w/ Nate Thurmond,"Extra Sauce", Bret Dougherty, 3/15/2004[/B]
[I]However, Nate
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[I][B]'Quick Talk w/ Nate Thurmond,"Extra Sauce", Bret Dougherty, 3/15/2004[/B]
[I]However, Nate’s admiration for the centers of today is obvious.
“I really like the centers that are coming out now,” he says. “They’re talented, quick, and agile. Most importantly, they have good footwork and lateral movement. That’s why I like Duncan and KG (Kevin Garnett). They have the athleticism.”
When I look at a center, I immediately ask, ‘can he run?’ [SIZE=4][B]You can’t coach a stiff. I want a guy that can run, not a galoof.[/B][/SIZE] Most guys today can run.”[/I][/I]
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[QUOTE=PHILA]Bynum can't even run with Wilt, Russell & Thurmond up the court. How is he supposed to compete with them when he can't even keep up without getting gassed. After a quarter of fighting Wilt for position under the boards he would look towards Coach Brown on the bench to pull him for a breather. Against Wilt & Nate he would be at a length disadvantage as well. He'd be unable to outreach, outmuscle, outposition, outquick, outjump, outrun, and ultimately outplay either of them. Wilt would block all of shot his attempts, while Nate would forbid him from even looking at the basket.
Can you say with a straight face that Bynum can run with Russell or even an overweight Bellamy?
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYj0wXPY1s#t=13m12s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYj0wXPY1s#t=13m12s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzaki4yEC4s#t=4m7s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzaki4yEC4s#t=4m7s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtG7-I2wBw#t=4m42s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtG7-I2wBw#t=4m42s[/URL]
[I][B]'Quick Talk w/ Nate Thurmond,"Extra Sauce", Bret Dougherty, 3/15/2004[/B]
[I]However, Nate
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[QUOTE=PHILA][I][B]'Quick Talk w/ Nate Thurmond,"Extra Sauce", Bret Dougherty, 3/15/2004[/B]
[I]However, Nate
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[quote=-23-]You're the bigger moron to believe it.
Eye witness accounts? SO you think 9/11 missiles hit the WTC because of "eye witness accounts" or bombs going off because of "eye witness accounts".
Take off the tin foil hat, it's cutting off your circulation.
Moron.[/quote]
Certified troll.
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[QUOTE=G-train]Certified troll.[/QUOTE]
Certified moron.
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Re: List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time
G-Train you also think Wilt beat up a mountain lion and threw it by it's tail?
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Shaq a stiff? He could run the floor great and jump with anyone at 340 lbs. Very quick feet as well.
Where do you think Shaq got that baseline spin? That was Wilt's move in the old days.
How often has Bynum shown such quickness in the pivot?
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewBnHq04CRg#t=14s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewBnHq04CRg#t=14s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DdX6bkVIk8#t=2m55s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DdX6bkVIk8#t=2m55s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpufnh4fmRk#t=34m46s"] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpufnh4fmRk#t=34m46s[/URL]
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[quote=Lebron23]Get that weak stuff out of here[/quote] Yes he should have dunked it.
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[QUOTE=G-train]Certified troll.[/QUOTE]Yep
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[QUOTE=PHILA]Shaq a stiff? He could run the floor great and jump with anyone at 340 lbs. Very quick feet as well.
Where do you think Shaq got that baseline spin? That was Wilt's move in the old days.
How often has Bynum shown such quickness in the pivot?
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewBnHq04CRg#t=14s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewBnHq04CRg#t=14s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DdX6bkVIk8#t=2m55s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DdX6bkVIk8#t=2m55s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpufnh4fmRk#t=34m46s"] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpufnh4fmRk#t=34m46s[/URL][/QUOTE]
If he was in the league in the 60s, people would say Wilt who?
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[QUOTE=-23-]You'd have to be a retard to think he can dunk from the FT-line with 3 steps. Like an actual ****ing retard. How ****ing stupid are you? :facepalm
He'd have to jump with a 50" vertical to gain the horizontal distance to cover that distance, from 3 steps. You're a ****ing moron, never post again.[/QUOTE]
:lol Like you are remotely smart enough to pretend knowing how high he had to get. You can't even hold a smart conversation on your better days.
Wilt, at Kansas triple jumped 45 feet plus - That's the distance from half court line to out of bounds - this is a little less than what women do today but I seen a Russian lady do 50 feet without much speed and I assure it wasn't a 50 inch vertical. Wilt long jumped 22 feet about 6 more feet needed for a foul line leap. The question is how much explosion momentum can Wilt get in three steps? I don't know and you don't know. We know he was very explosive. But I trust Tex Winters more than I do you. You think he could be in charge of rules if he was making things up.
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[QUOTE=-23-]It does not take a engineer to conclude that a 250lb+ guy has to jump 18" (horizontal distance), while the effects of DRAG, and GRAVITY are pulling you down. How much speed you think he can get from 3 steps while losing over 2 feet a second while in the air?[/QUOTE]
I don't see any calculations here.....surely you can put up some calculations.