[QUOTE=mrpibb]Wilt returns the greeting and asks how it feels to be second or lower.
[/QUOTE]
He's dead...
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[QUOTE=mrpibb]Wilt returns the greeting and asks how it feels to be second or lower.
[/QUOTE]
He's dead...
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]Shaq has no business being above West or Kareem....are you kidding me???
Wilt is only lower because he didn't start out with the Lakers.
Don't forget Baylor.....I have him over Shaq too.[/QUOTE]
Wilt shot under 37% from the freethrow line in the '69 & '70 NBA Finals
In the game 7s:
1-11 in '70
4-13 in '69
He had his chances but wilted
7:00 march 2nd is the wilt 100 point game documentary!
looks pretty good. cant wait
[QUOTE=DKLaker]Shaq has no business being above West or Kareem....are you kidding me???
Wilt is only lower because he didn't start out with the Lakers.
Don't forget Baylor.....I have him over Shaq too.[/QUOTE]
Baylor above Shaq? Then that means Wilt has to be 7th
Wilt and Russell are both trash
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[QUOTE=jlauber]It's downright disgraceful. But then again, when they can't fight back with ANY knowledge, or FACTS, or actual ARTICLES, or VIDEO FOOTAGE, or ANY rational conversation, they have to resort to shameful tactics...all on a SPORTS FORUM.
Best to completely ignore the ignorant.
BTW, I am convinced that those two clowns are actually the same poster. It is almost an impossibility that two people could both be that stupid.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :facepalm
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Baylor above Shaq? Then that means Wilt has to be 7th[/QUOTE]
As a "Laker" yes 7th
[QUOTE=DKLaker]As a "Laker" yes 7th[/QUOTE]
yep 6th or 7th
Alltime as in all teams he's 9th IMO
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]More Wilt Stories:
-Was better a badminton player than basketball player
-Climbed up Mount Everest than slid down it on a garbage can lid
-revived a coma patient by slapping him in the head with his d1ck.
- Played QB and WR at the same time in high school.
- Bowled a perfect game using a football
-played kicked ball using a medicine ball
-could light a match his his foreskin[/QUOTE]
More please.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]yep 6th or 7th
Alltime as in all teams he's 9th IMO[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
[QUOTE=DKLaker]Yeah, I'm with you on that.[/QUOTE]
What's your top 10 look like?
Mine:
1. Jordan
2. Abdul-Jabbar
3. Johnson
4. Russell
5. Bird
6. O'Neal
7. Bryant
8. Duncan
9. Chamberlain
10. Olajuwon
Here is an article with Iguodala saying Bill Russel is taller than Dwight Howard.
[url]http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20120227_Iguodala_s_All-Star_moments.html[/url]
I'll let the mathematicians use the transitive theory.
[QUOTE=randomword]Here is an article with Iguodala saying Bill Russel is taller than Dwight Howard.
[url]http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20120227_Iguodala_s_All-Star_moments.html[/url]
I'll let the mathematicians use the transitive theory.[/QUOTE]
That's because he's likely about 6'9.5 and Dwight Howard is 6'9 in his bare feet.
Russell was listed 6'10 in the Olympics of 1956, and throughout his NCAA career. He was only listed at 6'9 in the NBA - they liked to use round numbers back then. He's likely between 6'9 and 6'10. Does that sound about right to most people? He is definitely not "6'9" like how modern 6'9 players are, because back then players were given barefoot numbers where as today they are listed in shoes and grossly inflated even beyond that sometimes. That's probably why Iggy was surprised.
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You can tell most of the people in this thread have absolutely NO IDEA just how insane professional athletes are genetically. These guys are absolute monsters and how crazy is it to say Wilt(the top score in NBA History) was uncapable of these feats. Multiple newspaper articles and interviews have been conducted in which people speak of Wilts acts. Why would they make these things up for Wilt anyway? Why would he be special? You can look for an interview of a first-hand account who says Wilt was incapable of these feats, but you won't find it. The guy was one of the greatest athletes ever and probably the best overall athlete the NBA has ever seen. Next to LeBron James of course.
People rip on Wilts stats all the time and say he destroyed 6 foot white guys every night, but Russell only averaged 13 PPG on 42% shooting against the same exact competition with inferior rebounding numbers to boot.
-I heard during wilts 100 point game at half time he ran to china and had sex with 10 Asian women and then ran back to make it in time for the start of the third quarter. He was faster than the speed of light
- Wilt was the first man on the moon, he didn't need no space shuttle, he just used his insane vertical and jumped to the moon
[QUOTE=DKLaker]All of this is true except the dunking so hard it crushed toes AND could average 70 points per game in the 90's.
I have been around pro athletes since 1960 and was fortunate enough to talk to Wilt many times and even see him work out......he was a phenomenal athlete without any question.
People question the 20,000 women......[b]I can't say if he did it or not but I can say from experience that he could've easily done it if he wanted to and was physically able to perform.[/b]
A friend of mine who played pro baseball many years ago was in town for a 3 game series, I was at the team hotel and he asked me to help him get his mail.....I thought it was a stupid request until I saw he had 3 military style duffel bags full of mail. We started opening the mail and it was nothing but nude and half nude photos of women offering to meet him after the game for sex.....I mean incredibly hot women. Sure enough, after the game I saw every one of those chicks waiting for him and calling his name......he said it was like that in every city.....the mail, the women......and even more at home games.
He wasn't even a star player, he was good looking but not like a god.
I saw Wilt with a lot of women. Sex with 20,000......maybe he forgot a few thousand more. If you guys think any of this has changed for athletes today then you are nuts.......it's the same.[/QUOTE]
........
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]That's because he's likely about 6'9.5 and Dwight Howard is 6'9 in his bare feet.
Russell was listed 6'10 in the Olympics of 1956, and throughout his NCAA career. He was only listed at 6'9 in the NBA - they liked to use round numbers back then. He's likely between 6'9 and 6'10. Does that sound about right to most people? He is definitely not "6'9" like how modern 6'9 players are, because back then players were given barefoot numbers where as today they are listed in shoes and grossly inflated even beyond that sometimes. That's probably why Iggy was surprised.[/QUOTE]
Even Hakeem Olajuwon was listed at 7'0 before the early 90's. He just out of the blue (religious resolution or something) said the media had been misspelling his name & it was Hakeem (& not Akeem as it had been spelled previously) & he was only close to 6'10 & not 7'0 feet.
It's a modern thing to exaggerate players height & the average starting Center has been around 6'10 every since the early to mid 60's up until today.
on the other hand average Guards heights have grown significantly since just the 1980's.
Starting Centers average heights have benn about
[QUOTE=Fuhrer Hubbs]You can tell most of the people in this thread have absolutely NO IDEA just how insane professional athletes are genetically. These guys are absolute monsters and how crazy is it to say Wilt(the top score in NBA History) was uncapable of these feats. Multiple newspaper articles and interviews have been conducted in which people speak of Wilts acts. Why would they make these things up for Wilt anyway? Why would he be special? You can look for an interview of a first-hand account who says Wilt was incapable of these feats, but you won't find it. The guy was one of the greatest athletes ever and probably the best overall athlete the NBA has ever seen. Next to LeBron James of course.
People rip on Wilts stats all the time and say he destroyed 6 foot white guys every night, but Russell only averaged 13 PPG on 42% shooting against the same exact competition with inferior rebounding numbers to boot.[/QUOTE]
Plus anyone with an ounce of NBA history knows he never even played "6 foot white guys" - the 60's was the age of the center. The average height for centers back then, especially in only the 9-12 team leagues, was taller than today - this includes the 1961-62 season. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Walt Bellamy, Bill Russell... HOF'ers and 50 greatests with 2 of those guys constantly in GOAT conversations yet... Let's just brush them under the rug - it's so much easier [I]not [/I]to do research and believe the 6 foot white guy myths because it helps explain things like 100 points and 50 points per game. After all Wilt would just get slaughtered by today's Joel Anthony's and Jafail McGee's right? :facepalm
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][IMG]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/94421757_7dfc67f3f4_o.jpg[/IMG]
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Dont even compare the modern era to that weak era :facepalm
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Plus anyone with an ounce of NBA history knows he never even played "6 foot white guys" - the 60's was the age of the center. The average height for centers back then, especially in only the 9-12 team leagues, was taller than today - this includes the 1961-62 season. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Walt Bellamy, Bill Russell... HOF'ers and 50 greatests with 2 of those guys constantly in GOAT conversations yet... Let's just brush them under the rug - it's so much easier [I]not [/I]to do research and believe the 6 foot white guy myths because it helps explain things like 100 points and 50 points per game. After all Wilt would just get slaughtered by today's Joel Anthony's and Jafail McGee's right? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
0 players over 7' 230lbs that played more than 2 seasons :facepalm
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cyBo7RhkJk[/url]
Just look at this weak stuff :oldlol:
Revisionist historians jlauber and CavaliersFTW think that era is better/close to now :facepalm
[QUOTE=32jazz]Even Hakeem Olajuwon was listed at 7'0 before the early 90's. He just out of the blue (religious resolution or something) said the media had been misspelling his name & it was Hakeem (& not Akeem as it had been spelled previously) & he was only close to 6'10 & not 7'0 feet.
It's a modern thing to exaggerate players height & the average starting Center has been around 6'10 every since the early to mid 60's up until today.
on the other hand average Guards heights have grown significantly since just the 1980's.
Starting Centers average heights have benn about[/QUOTE]
Actually - Guard height's were tallest in the early 60's I think. I calculated the average height of the 1961-62 season and compared it with 1989-2012 NBA drafted players (thanks to [url]www.draftexpress.com[/url])
NBA PG's in 62 averaged about 3/4 of an inch taller than modern PG's
NBA SG's in 62 averaged about 1/2 inch taller than modern PG's
NBA SF's in 62 averaged about 1/4 inch shorter than modern SF's
NBA PF's in 62 averaged about 1/8th inch shorter than modern PF's
NBA C's in 62 averaged over 1/2 inch taller than modern C's
- I think the center position was "modern" in size since at least the mid 1950's - Mikan set the standard. Wilt and Russell didn't define the center position as "big" - big was already the standard, they set raised the bar in [I]athleticism[/I]. Guards got smaller with the success of players like Nate "Tiny" Archibald (who was 6'1 in his barefeet... not exactly tiny by today's standards). The smaller PG's were generally more agile than the 6'3-6'4 PG's that were being used in the early 1960's. Maybe PG's dipped really small in size in the 80's though, and is starting to climb again not sure. But forwards is what seemed to get bigger than in the early 60's. Not by much though. With only 9-12 teams it's easier to draft [I]big[/I] talent, not just talent.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Actually - Guard height's were tallest in the early 60's I think. I calculated the average height of the 1961-62 season and compared it with 1989-2012 NBA drafted players (thanks to [url]www.draftexpress.com[/url])
NBA PG's in 62 averaged about 3/4 of an inch taller than modern PG's
NBA SG's in 62 averaged about 1/2 inch taller than modern PG's
NBA SF's in 62 averaged about 1/4 inch shorter than modern SF's
NBA PF's in 62 averaged about 1/8th inch shorter than modern PF's
NBA C's in 62 averaged over 1/2 inch taller than modern C's
- I think the center position was "modern" in size since at least the mid 1950's - Mikan set the standard. Wilt and Russell didn't define the center position as "big" - big was already the standard, they set raised the bar in [I]athleticism[/I]. Guards got smaller with the success of players like Nate "Tiny" Archibald (who was 6'1 in his barefeet... not exactly tiny by today's standards). The smaller PG's were generally more agile than the 6'3-6'4 PG's that were being used in the early 1960's. Maybe PG's dipped really small in size in the 80's though, and is starting to climb again not sure. But forwards is what seemed to get bigger than in the early 60's. Not by much though. With only 9-12 teams it's easier to draft [I]big[/I] talent, not just talent.[/QUOTE]
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Wilt banged Katelyn Faber's grandmother back in the day.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]0 players over 7' 230lbs that played more than 2 seasons[/QUOTE]
Lettuce not forget your epic fail by claiming this the first time.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Yeah I'm so mad that some guy dominated short weak stiffs :oldlol:
And you have yet to list a single 7' 230 lb player too - tall tails don't count :lol[/QUOTE]
[SIZE="6"][u][I]Anyone[/I] over 6'10 qualifies as 7'0 in today's NBA.[/u][/SIZE]
[url]http://www.nba.com/playerfile/desagana_diop/[/url]
[url]http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Desagana-Diop-2241/[/url]
Hey Deuce What do all these 7 footers have in common?
Tyson Chandler
Brook Lopez
Robin Lopez
Hakeem Olajuwon
Patrick Ewing
Joakim Noah
Brendan Haywood
BJ Mullins
Darko Miclic
Spencer Hawes
Jerome Jordan
Chris Kaman
Tyson Chandler
Yi Jianlian
Andrew Bogut
Greg Oden
Javale McGee
Marcin Gortat
*Gasp! They aren't truthfully 7 feet tall at all! It's the post-1970's-media-age-NBA's best kept secret! Exaggerating player size for greater fan appeal.
[url]www.draftexpress.com/measurements[/url]
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:violin:
[SIZE="4"]Listed weights are not reality.[/SIZE]
In 1989, David Robinson was listed at 235lbs but at the Olympics he was weighed and found to be only 227lbs. Eventually he weighed more, obviously but at the time his list weight was actually exaggerated. Wilt Chamberlain was listed 275 in 1964 (and for the rest of his career) but when he stepped on the locker room scale in 1964 mid-season, it reads 292. hmmmm......... Bill Russell was listed a flat out unrealistic 215 for his entire career - in 1967 he openly talks about his increased weight progression up to 235, and in the off-seasons he weighed 240. Those vintage players in particular were listed via their draft weight's when they were skinny rookies. None of them stayed that weight, all of them gained weight especially playing in the post - some of them gained a massive amount of weight. :facepalm
[SIZE="5"][I]ALL *32[/I] of these men played Wilt for 2 seasons or more, are 7'0 tall by modern NBA standards, and exceeded 230lbs.[/SIZE]
[B]*Nate Thurmond (HOF, 50 greatest) THERES 1!
*Walt Bellamy (HOF) THERE'S 2!
*Kareem Abdul Jabbar (HOF, 50 greatest) THERE'S 3
*Tom Boerwinkle THERE'S 4!
*Ray Felix THERE'S 5!
*Bill Russell (HOF, 50 greatest) THERE'S 6!
*Walter Dukes THERE'S 7!
*Swede Halbrook THERE'S 8!
*Darrell Imhoff THERE'S 9!
*Bevo Nordman THERE'S 10!
*Mel Counts THERE'S 11!
*Jon Thompson THERE'S 12!
*Joe Strawder THERE'S 13!
*Reggie Harding THERE'S 14!
*Jim Fox THERE'S 15!
*Rich Niemen THERE'S 16!
*Dick Cunningham THERE'S 17!
*Dale Schlueter THERE'S 18!
*Dave Newmark THERE'S 19!
*Luther Rackley THERE'S 20!
*Otto Moore THERE'S 21!
*Neal Walk THERE'S 22!
*Greg Filmore THERE'S 23!
*Dennis Awtry THERE'S 24!
*George Johnson THERE'S 25!
*Bob Christian THERE'S 26!
*Tom Black THERE'S 27!
*Sam Lacey THERE'S 28!
*Bob Lanier (HOF) THERE'S 29!
*Elmore Smith THERE'S 30!
*Jim McDaniels THERE'S 31!
*William Smith THERE'S 32!
[/B]
Oops I mis-counted the first time. Seems he played against no less than thirty TWO 7 footers. :confusedshrug:
[SIZE="7"]FAIL[/SIZE]
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:lol
Deuce, you can't win, I know it's hard to accept change but your days of raping Wilt in the ass are over, sawry bud. You should go consume all the pills in your parents medicine cabinet, because you've dug yourself a deep grave with your sad attempts at trolling.
RIP Deuce :roll:
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[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow][IMG]http://www.magazine.uc.edu/content/dam/magazine/images/0109/Lsports11.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Cherry Picking is easy. Show a little effort bro, your losing :lol
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[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow][IMG]http://tjuice.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/facepalm.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Don't hold back the tears.... just let it all out :cry:
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow][IMG]http://www.magazine.uc.edu/content/dam/magazine/images/0109/Lsports11.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
a white dude with glasses, the era was worse then I expected .
[QUOTE=asdf1990]a white dude with glasses, the era was worse then I expected .[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Cherry Picking is easy. Show a little effort bro, your losing :lol
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He's taller than Lebron :oldlol: You fail
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]He's taller than Lebron :oldlol: You fail[/QUOTE]
Pump your brakes.
YOU SHOWED THE NCAA
Not the NBA.
[SIZE="7"][B]
FAIL.[/B][/SIZE]
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Pump your brakes.
YOU SHOWED THE NCAA
Not the NBA.
[SIZE="7"][B]
FAIL.[/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
people get taller in the NBA?
:facepalm
[IMG]http://www.grandstandsports.com/images/5425.jpg[/IMG]
Two GOAT candidate centers that stand 7'3 in modern shoes - one of them 320lbs
With a 6'6 230lb point guard
what a small weak era.
:lol
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]0 players over 7' 230lbs that played more than 2 seasons :facepalm[/QUOTE]
I know right.....I was at every Lakers home game in the 60's, saw all these guys play and it is a complete and utter joke to try to compare them to the players of today......the great players were truly great....but there were a ton of scrubs and he skills and especially the athleticism.....with few big exceptions was very pahetic. Jeez, I almost sh!t myself when Westbrook threw down that dunk, the first thing I thought was a PG in the 60's and 70's couldn't even dream of throwing down a dunk like that, wow has the game really changed!!!
Wilt was an absolute freak of nature way ahead of his time.
It amazes me tho that Elgin Baylor gets no mention on here.....career 27.5 points, 13.5 boards, 4 assists. Averaged 38ppg and 19rpg in one season, scored 71 points in a game......Kobe had to WORK to beat that one.......and had 61 in a playoff game....still the most in a regulation playoff game, Jordan's 63 was in double OT. Oh and Baylor had 22 boards in the 61 point game.
He also kept the Lakers franchise from going under......can you even imagine that?
Baylor is #4 with 87 40+ point games........there was NO 3 POINT LINE WHEN HE PLAYED!!!!!!! OR maybe he would've scored 100!!!
We need some love for Elgin Baylor :bowdown:
Q: Cavaliers dude......you do realize that Kareem came to the NBA in 1969 right?
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][IMG]http://www.grandstandsports.com/images/5425.jpg[/IMG]
Two GOAT candidate centers that stand 7'3 in modern shoes - one of them 320lbs
With a 6'6 230lb point guard
what a small weak era.
:lol[/QUOTE]
nice cherrypick
2 photos out of a 1000 :oldlol:
and that is the 70's
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]people get taller in the NBA?
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
:roll:
You tell me...
:hammerhead: