Wilt Chamberlain free throw dunks:

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Why do I get the feeling everybody has cherry picked the evidence and didn't read those newspapers. :facepalm

In 1956:
1.) NCAA Rules regarding big men (Wilt) included banning free throw dunks are suggested by a committee.

2.) NCAA Proposed rules to stop the big men (Wilt) regarding free throw dunks were voted on and approved by a committee.

3.) Tex Winter claims he's the guy behind the curtain and describes Wilt dunking free throws. He says Wilt took 3 giant strides. Oddly enough this looks [I]identical[/I] to how Wilt practices and competes in High-Jump even though Tex Winter doesn't know that or give a f_ck about it. Just some strange coincidence right?

4.) In 1989:
Wilt, independent of any of that, tries to claim he dunked free throws his freshman year for some interview for the LA Time's. Of course, he's going to embellish this in some way shape or form. This is only [I]support[/I] that he dunked free throws it is not the tool to determine the specifics of [I]how [/I]he dunked them because of his well known and well understood reputation for embellishing. :hammerhead:

5.) In 2011:
Tex Winter once again recalls the event of Wilt dunking a free throw. He once again claims 3 steps - exactly as he did fifty five years earlier. Not only this but now he touches base on the [I]other[/I] rules that were changed that involved Chamberlain and they all match [I]perfectly[/I] with the actual proposed and changed NCAA rules in 1956




Is it a god damn coincidence? :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]

Look, you have OVERWHELMING PROVED Wilt was dunking his FTs, and at worst, he did so with a leap that NO other legitimate NBA player ever has.

Now, the onus is on the "anti-Chamberlain" clan to supply evidence which DISPUTES your well established claims. They NEVER do, nor will they EVER do it.

Once again, we have HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of accounts of Wilt's amazing physical skills, and yet we don't have ONE LEGITIMATE source that actually was around Wilt in his lifetime, that DISPUTES them. How come????

[QUOTE=jlauber]Look, you have OVERWHELMING PROVED Wilt was dunking his FTs, and at worst, he did so with a leap that NO other legitimate NBA player ever has.

Now, the onus is on the "anti-Chamberlain" clan to supply evidence which DISPUTES your well established claims. They NEVER do, nor will they EVER do it.

Once again, we have HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of accounts of Wilt's amazing physical skills, and yet we don't have ONE LEGITIMATE source that actually was around Wilt in his lifetime, that DISPUTES them. How come????[/QUOTE]

So then care to explain why Wilt claims he could dunk from inside the FT circle when Tex said he started behind the circle? :confusedshrug:

Also a 70%FT shooter is not [B]somewhat[/B] better than a 50% FT shooter, 20% is a big difference. Wilt IS a terrible free throw shooter according to stats. I do agree however that stats can be very deceiving when taking circumstances in consideration. :no:

[QUOTE=jlauber]Look, you have OVERWHELMING PROVED Wilt was dunking his FTs, and at worst, he did so with a leap that NO other legitimate NBA player ever has.

Now, the onus is on the "anti-Chamberlain" clan to supply evidence which DISPUTES your well established claims. They NEVER do, nor will they EVER do it.

Once again, we have HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of accounts of Wilt's amazing physical skills, and yet we don't have ONE LEGITIMATE source that actually was around Wilt in his lifetime, that DISPUTES them. How come????[/QUOTE]

I haven't [I]proven[/I] anything. But I have organized the events from the past and presented them. It all adds up. It is getting to be a bit of a stretch to suggest that it didn't happened exactly how Tex describes it... the NCAA rule changes happened exactly how Tex described it and he gives perfectly reasonable explanations as to why. No other athletic big man was going to be in the NCAA at the time to be effected by these rules except Wilt, because Russell and Uhl graduated before the 56-57 season. Why does all of these make so much logical sense?

:lol

[QUOTE=Asukal]So then care to explain why Wilt claims he could dunk from inside the FT circle when Tex said he started behind the circle? :confusedshrug:

Also a 70%FT shooter is not [B]somewhat[/B] better than a 50% FT shooter, 20% is a big difference. Wilt IS a terrible free throw shooter according to stats. I do agree however that stats can be very deceiving when taking circumstances in consideration. :no:[/QUOTE]

cuz Wilt like'd to add whipped cream and a cherry on top of his stories :lol

c'mon dude quit playing dumb you know damn well this shit makes perfect sense exactly how Tex described it. What Wilt says only curtails as [I]support[/I] that this occurred stop taking Wilt's words literally when I KNOW you've called him a liar before in the past. :hammerhead: Tex is the man that tells the story. What does Tex say. That's what probably happened - and it probably happened exactly how he described it and not like how Wilt described it. Use your brain.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]cuz Wilt like'd to add whipped cream and a cherry on top of his stories :lol

c'mon dude quit playing dumb you know damn well this shit makes perfect sense exactly how Tex described it. What Wilt says only curtails as [I]support[/I] that this occurred stop taking Wilt's words literally when I KNOW you've called him a liar before in the past. :hammerhead: Tex is the man that tells the story. What does Tex say. That's what probably happened - and it probably happened exactly how he described it and not like how Wilt described it. Use your brain.[/QUOTE]

Dude, I'm talking to jlauber. Since he believe everything Wilt said, maybe he can explain the inconsistency. :facepalm

Wilt was the real deal.

[QUOTE=305Baller]Wilt was the real deal.[/QUOTE]

:cheers:

3-step High-Jump champ. 3-step free throw dunker.

javale mcgee would drop 50 on wilt according to ish

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Why do I get the feeling everybody has cherry picked the evidence and didn't read those newspapers. :facepalm

In 1956:
1.) NCAA Rules regarding big men (Wilt) included banning free throw dunks are suggested by a committee.

2.) NCAA Proposed rules to stop the big men (Wilt) regarding free throw dunks were voted on and approved by a committee.

3.) Tex Winter claims he's the guy behind the curtain and describes Wilt dunking free throws. He says Wilt took 3 giant strides. Oddly enough this looks [I]identical[/I] to how Wilt practices and competes in High-Jump even though Tex Winter doesn't know that nor does he give a flying f_ck about it. It's just some strange coincidence right?

[url]http://www.desmoinesregister.com/VideoNetwork/50386121001/Relays-history-Wilt-Chamberlain-high-jump[/url]

4.) In 1989:
Wilt, independent of any of that, tries to claim he dunked free throws his freshman year for some interview for the LA Time's. Of course, he's going to embellish this in some way shape or form. This is only [I]support[/I] that he dunked free throws it is not the tool to determine the specifics of [I]how [/I]he dunked them because of his well known and well understood reputation for embellishing. :hammerhead:

5.) In 2011:
Tex Winter once again recalls the event of Wilt dunking a free throw. He once again claims 3 steps - exactly as he did fifty five years earlier. Not only this but now he touches base on the [I]other[/I] rules that were changed that involved Chamberlain and they all match [I]perfectly[/I] with the actual proposed and changed NCAA rules in 1956

Is it a god damn coincidence? :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]

The most authoritative guy in all of basketball, a HOF, a guy whose credentials had to be impeccable because he was at the head of the most authoritative committee in the sport, speaks on how he made a particular rule from visual evidence. We are supposed to believe that one of the most respectable guys in the whole sport isn't a reliable source.

[QUOTE=Asukal]Dude, I'm talking to jlauber. Since he believe everything Wilt said, maybe he can explain the inconsistency. :facepalm[/QUOTE]

First of all, I don't believe everything Wilt claimed. BUT, much of what he gets "credit" for, he did NOT claim. The famous "mountain lion" story, was a second hand account, and NOT directly given by Chamberlain. The famous "broken toe" story was NEVER attributed to Wilt. It was, in fact, claimed by the very person to whom it supposedly occurred.

The "20,000" women? Wilt regretted that claim, and in fact, he pulled that number from a fiend who ran a hotel in which Wilt stayed for 10 days. According to the story, the man counted 23 different women going to Wilt's room in that 10 day stay. Wilt was 48 at the time. He multipled 2.3 women per day, times 30 years (Wilt from 18-48.)

In any case, it was WELL-KNOWN that women FLOCKED to Wilt (and NOT the other way around.) Nate Thurmond told the story, that, after a practice, Wilt asked him what he was going to do that night. Thurmond told him that he was probably going to catch a Kim Novak movie. According to Nate, Wilt told him that he had a better idea. They jumped into Wilt's car (Bentley I believe), and drove awhile. They pulled up to a secluded home, and lo-and-behold, out comes Kim Novak. (BTW, just google her...she was beautiful.) And there were MANY more stories of Wilt's "companions" many of them among the hottest women at the time.

As for the rest...the 500 lb. bench...WAY too many accounts to believe that this was some kind of fabrication. Same with dunking on a 12 ft rim, or touching the top of the backboard, or dunking from the FT line. There was enough physical evidence, including VIDEO footage of amazing leaps by Chamberlain, as well as the well known fact that Wilt was a multi-event track star, who won high-jumping championships (all while doing it part-time and with poor technique.) And why would I NOT believe Sonny Hill or Tex Winter?

Here again, provide me with something concrete that DISPUTES most of these so-called "myths."

[QUOTE=swi7ch]javale mcgee would drop 50 on wilt according to ish[/QUOTE]

I know...there are actually some dorks here who believe that nonsense. I have long claimed that you could pull Wilt's corpse from the ground, prop it up under the basket, and McGee would not score a point.

[QUOTE=swi7ch]javale mcgee would drop 50 on wilt according to ish[/QUOTE]

:lol JaFail

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQiInX37oys[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27-jM2NvBIc[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR6TnQSgxO8[/url]

:roll:

Marques Johnson
Wilt played all summer with us at UCLA around 1980 or 1981. He was in tremendous shape and could dominate younger players even then. After we had run full court for a couple of hours, a few of us were shooting around. My former college teammate David Greenwood was giving Wilt a hard time about his stats and telling him, 'You know, you could never score 100 points in today's game, the competition was weak when you played.' Wilt decided he wanted to play some two-on-two. It was David, who played for the Bulls, and the Piston's Roy Hamilton (my boss at Fox Sports) against me and Wilt. On the first couple of possessions David scored and really turned up the trash talking. Wilt was really fired up now. He pulled me to the side, put his arm around me, and told me to not shoot the ball, just pass it to him, every time. Of course, I did what I was told. Wilt proceeded to DUNK, that's right DUNK the next 10 straight times right in Greenwood's grill. He would either back him down or establish position real close to the hoop. I'd feed him, he'd jump, turn in mid-air and smash - one of the most impressive basketball moments I have ever witnessed. After we had won the game, Wilt didn't say a word, just left the gym. True story! - KBLAZE

I have heard this exact same story before.YEARS AGO.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]And Wilts Ft issue wasnt skill based. By most reports he shot them fine in practice. Just like Shaq. We have all see Shaq wet FTs over and over working out. His issue like Wilt...was mental. They had Wilt seeing psychiatrists and shit.

Like Nick Anderson after the finals disaster. He would shy away from taking Fts. miss them at unusual rates even though he could shoot his ass off. Guy shot like 40% from the Ft line one year but he was wetting 25 footers with defenses trying to stop it all day.

Fts are funny. Its rare a guy just lacks the skill to make them if they put in any work. And Wilt worked. shaq worked. Nick kept trying to get his shot right.

But you cant practice enough to just beat that mental block. And all the practice and tips and doctors and hate grows and guys get even worse at te line.

Its rarely about skill on high levels.[/QUOTE]
Do you have Shaq's practice free throws video?

[QUOTE=bwink23]His "goofy looking skillset" allowed him to average over 41 points a game on 48%FG vs Bill Russell and the Celtics defense in 12 games in 1962....:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
It is a bit goofy because he used his right hand exclusively even if it exposed the ball.

[QUOTE=gyu]Do you have Shaq's practice free throws video?[/QUOTE]


It has been mentioned several times in years past that Shaq could make his FT's in practice.....not all the evidence your ever gonna find is in videos....:facepalm

[QUOTE=gyu]Do you have Shaq's practice free throws video?[/QUOTE]

Have you forgotten Wilt went 28 for 32 when he scored 100 points?

Or is that myth too? :hammerhead:

Clearly its psychological - no NBA player, including Wilt, has ever been [I]physically[/I] incapable of hitting consistent free throws. Sorry brah.

[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Cm2c74za2GE/T0VbCzeMoOI/AAAAAAAAC_U/WJUvQ7BDBHk/s400/U%2520mad.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=gyu]It is a bit goofy because he used his right hand exclusively even if it exposed the ball.[/QUOTE]

So you have VIDEO footage of the 61-62 ECF's?

Keep in mind that even Red Holzman a HOF coach who was coaching against Wilt in the 60's and 70's, claimed that Wilt had a good outside shot when he came into the league. Of course, we have SEVERAL single game college highlights which PROVE it, as well as this highlight video.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWrGWuU2Ak[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhH_fPBWShQ[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7hJeRajeYo[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3wJzDOdWaQ[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT2_FnTXMQo[/url]

Even his FT shooting looked much better in college and in his early NBA career.

Overall, how about this video, which chronicles his high school career to the first half of his NBA career.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4WZXiaDzyc&feature=related[/url]

Now, you tell me that Wilt looked a "bit goofy."

[QUOTE=jlauber]So you have VIDEO footage of the 61-62 ECF's?

Keep in mind that even Red Holzman a HOF coach who was coaching against Wilt in the 60's and 70's, claimed that Wilt had a good outside shot when he came into the league. Of course, we have SEVERAL single game college highlights which PROVE it, as well as this highlight video.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWrGWuU2Ak[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhH_fPBWShQ[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7hJeRajeYo[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3wJzDOdWaQ[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT2_FnTXMQo[/url]

Even his FT shooting looked much better in college and in his early NBA career.

Overall, how about this video, which chronicles his high school career to the first half of his NBA career.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4WZXiaDzyc&feature=related[/url]

Now, you tell me that Wilt looked a "bit goofy."[/QUOTE]
That last video you posted is the one I just watched yesterday, it's the one I based my judgement off of. I know he can shoot, but I'm talking about anything close to the basket he used his right hand only even if it means showing the ball directly to the defender.

I don't know why Wilt was such a bad FT shooter.

Looking at his college days, he had a pretty solid form. I'd say that he could have shot 60% from the line.. but for some reason, he couldn't connect on that much for his career.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Have you forgotten Wilt went 28 for 32 when he scored 100 points?

Or is that myth too? :hammerhead:

Clearly its psychological - no NBA player, including Wilt, has ever been [I]physically[/I] incapable of hitting consistent free throws. Sorry brah.

[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Cm2c74za2GE/T0VbCzeMoOI/AAAAAAAAC_U/WJUvQ7BDBHk/s400/U%2520mad.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
If he can't do it consistently then it's most likely an outlier, same goes for great free throw shooters who have a bad or average shooting night once in awhile.

[QUOTE=gyu]If he can't do it consistently then it's most likely an outlier, same goes for great free throw shooters who have a bad or average shooting night once in awhile.[/QUOTE]


NO....it was definately psychological....talking of Shaq as well::

Number of games shooting 65% or better, year to year...

29,23,15,7,10,10,20,19,20,36,14,11,14,5,18...

This type of inconsistency is NOT CONSISTENT with being a "skills" issue. 65% is not an incredibly difficult % to make, yet you can see Shaq was all over the place with how often he could shoot that mediocre % per game. I'm sure his actual FT shooting skill didn't change that much yearly.

[QUOTE=PTB Fan]I don't know why Wilt was such a bad FT shooter.

Looking at his college days, he had a pretty solid form. I'd say that he could have shot 60% from the line.. but for some reason, he couldn't connect on that much for his career.[/QUOTE]

87.5% the night he scored 100
63.6% in 1961-62 NBA playoffs
62.7% his freshmen NCAA season
61.3% in 1961-62 NBA season
60.6% his sophomore NCAA season

Compare with his career lows:

38.0% in 1967-68 NBA season
38.0% in 1967-68 NBA playoffs
38.8% in 1966-67 NBA playoffs
39.2% in 1968-69 NBA playoffs

Its most likely all just psychological - nothing physical was barring his ft% He has long stretches of hot and cold that seem miles apart

[QUOTE=bwink23]NO....it was definately psychological....talking of Shaq as well::

Number of games shooting 65% or better, year to year...

29,23,15,7,10,10,20,19,20,36,14,11,14,5,18...

This type of inconsistency is NOT CONSISTENT with being a "skills" issue. 65% is not an incredibly difficult % to make, yet you can see Shaq was all over the place with how often he could shoot that mediocre % per game. I'm sure his actual FT shooting skill didn't change that much yearly.[/QUOTE]

I kinda figure he just chucked it up there, somethin goin through his mind all the time like "they changed the freaking rules on me that's freaking cheating, those freaking frzzles cheating on me because I can dunk this in their face"

[QUOTE]Kblaze, I really respect your opinion but that is not true.
Both Wilt and Shaq had terrible form and sure, ALOT of players in league history shot it odd and with unorthodox form a la Jamal Wilkes but they made them.

Both Wilt and Shaq had bad form and they always missed them, they were never even average..[/QUOTE]

Ive seen Shaq shoot fts waming up in person and barely miss. I cant say ive seen Wilt do it....but ive heard from the mouths of his teammates(not read a report...heard them say it) that he could shoot in practice.

And wilt...unlike Shaq...actually tried everything to help in game. Ive seen him do Shaqs kinda one handed flick, take 18 footers, granny style, and all that. He listened to so many people and put so much pressure on himself to perform he just broke down and got worse and worse. Wilt shot 63% in college in 1957 and shot 38% at the peak of his ability(76ers).

What...you think he got less skilled with all those years of playing ball, taking tens of thousands of shots, and being driven to improve by being mocked when he was one of the most proud athletes ever? This guy HATED the idea that bigmen were not skilled and worked his ass off to be a good FT shooter partly to fight that belief but he just could not make them in game.

Once they saw that he could shoot with guys like Chet Walker in practice but in games he might shoot 25% they had him talking with doctors and gave him a personal Ft coach to tinker with his form and all.

I remember seeing him and his coach talking about it on what I think was an NBA halftime when Shaq was young and his FT shooting was being discussed.

A lot of guys who cant make FTs in the NBA can outshoot guys who can in practice.

You shoot tens of thousands of FTs(he shot over 11000 in the league and many more by himself) you could learn to make them with any form if it were a matter of just....skill.

But it isnt. The mental side comes in. Especally with guys who for one reason or another are under unusual pressure at the line.

This shouldnt be hard to believe. There are too many examples of it. Including modern ones. Here is Dwight who has hired the same FT coach Shaq used(Guy has made 99% of his FTs for years...olds the world record of 1206 made in an hour). guy says Dwight shot 83%(likely 83 of 100 at the end of the workout which is how he did it withshaq).

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_cg08SXrQ0[/url]

So Dwight has a world class Ft coach and he shoots 49% this year.

Shaq with the same guy....shot 80% in practice too. Wilt did. Virtually everyone does.

And then still miss half or more in the games.

It just is not as simple as how skilled you are. It never has been.

Wilt like everyone else who takes many thousands of FTs and works hard to improve....could make them with nothing on the line and no pressure. Its a simple thing to do. In games the change is mental. Not the physical ability to throw a ball where it needs to go...the way you have done tens of thousands of times.

There was probably a good chance that Wilt would have shot FAR better from the line, had the NBA not banned the dunking of FTs BECAUSE of Chamberlain.

Of course, the NBA was always trying to find rules to curtail Wilt's dominance, so I suspect that they would have moved the line back to 20 ft, (or whatever they would have deemed necessary) to prevent Wilt's "freakish activity."

I don't know if it would have been that advantageous for Wilt to dunk his free throws though.
Taking off from the free throw line for every single free throw and with the amount of free throws attempted per game and minutes he played? Takes a lot of energy to take off from there.

[QUOTE=gyu]I don't know if it would have been that advantageous for Wilt to dunk his free throws though.
Taking off from the free throw line for every single free throw and with the amount of free throws attempted per game and minutes he played? Takes a lot of energy to take off from there.[/QUOTE]


That's a good point...but with the game on the line?? :confusedshrug:

Plus, no one said he had to dunk it...he merely could have jumped from the line to get close enough to flick it in.

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[QUOTE=jlauber]There was probably a good chance that Wilt would have shot FAR better from the line, had the NBA not banned the dunking of FTs BECAUSE of Chamberlain.

Of course, the NBA was always trying to find rules to curtail Wilt's dominance, so I suspect that they would have moved the line back to 20 ft, (or whatever they would have deemed necessary) to prevent Wilt's "freakish activity."[/QUOTE]

Yeah, NBA fans got robbed on 11862 FT-dunks because of the idiots in the NBA who banned Wilt's amazing FT-dunks..:roll:

[IMG]http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/012011/situation-omg.gif[/IMG]

I can't believe people are this retarded

This video clearly shows Wilt Chamberlain's incredible offensive repertoire:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWrGWuU2Ak[/url]

And no, those aren't just college players he's dominating against. Many of those highlights show Chamberlain dominating the likes of Bill Russell and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

You know, the same Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who outplayed Hakeem Olajuwon even when Kareem was in his 30s.

You know, the same Hakeem Olajuwon who outplayed Shaquille O'Neal.

You know, the same Shaquille O'Neal who outplayed Dwight Howard.

And yet some idiots think Wilt wouldn't be any better than Javale McGee :facepalm

[QUOTE=bwink23]That's a good point...but with the game on the line?? :confusedshrug:

Plus, no one said he had to dunk it...he merely could have jumped from the line to get close enough to flick it in.[/QUOTE]
Who knows, the game might not have been close at all because Wilt's wasn't able to produce at the same level if he used so much energy on his free throws. We can only guess

[QUOTE=WillC]This video clearly shows Wilt Chamberlain's incredible offensive repertoire:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWrGWuU2Ak[/url]

And no, those aren't just college players he's dominating against. Many of those highlights show Chamberlain dominating the likes of Bill Russell and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

You know, the same Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who outplayed Hakeem Olajuwon even when Kareem was in his 30s.

You know, the same Hakeem Olajuwon who outplayed Shaquille O'Neal.

You know, the same Shaquille O'Neal who outplayed Dwight Howard.

And yet some idiots think Wilt wouldn't be any better than Javale McGee :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Wilt never dominated Kareem :facepalm
Kareem dominated him

In the 1972 season, Kareem outscored Wilt 201-70 in their five regular season games.
In the six 1972 playoff games, Kareem outscored Wilt 202-67

[QUOTE=millwad]Yeah, NBA fans got robbed on 11862 FT-dunks because of the idiots in the NBA who banned Wilt's amazing FT-dunks..:roll:[/QUOTE]

OHHHH EMMMMM GEEEEEEEEEEE

Is dat wut doze newzpaperz said? da NBA waz in on it twooo?

:violin:
Millwad = a greater fibber than Wilt Chamberlain. He makes shit up out of the blue and claims it's part of the "Wilt's myths". Even though nobody except himself came up with it.

[QUOTE=WillC]This video clearly shows Wilt Chamberlain's incredible offensive repertoire:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWrGWuU2Ak[/url]

And no, those aren't just college players he's dominating against. Many of those highlights show Chamberlain dominating the likes of Bill Russell and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

You know, the same Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who outplayed Hakeem Olajuwon even when Kareem was in his 30s.



You know, the same Hakeem Olajuwon who outplayed Shaquille O'Neal.

You know, the same Shaquille O'Neal who outplayed Dwight Howard.

And yet some idiots think Wilt wouldn't be any better than Javale McGee :facepalm[/QUOTE]



[B]The same Kareem who called Wilt the most dominant scorer in NBA history.[/B]

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]OHHHH EMMMMM GEEEEEEEEEEE

Is dat wut doze newzpaperz said? da NBA waz in on it twooo?

:violin:
Millwad = a greater fibber than Wilt Chamberlain. He makes shit up out of the blue and claims it's part of the "Wilt's myths". Even though nobody except himself came up with it.[/QUOTE]
You and your Wilt ******ging butt buddies

[img]http://www.newrichstrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Old-Men-Quotes.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow][B]Wilt never dominated Kareem[/B] :facepalm[/QUOTE]

Yah... like the entire 1971 series... oh wait :lol

[CODE][B]Post season – 1970-71 – WCF playoffs[/B]
Date: Fri 04/09/71
- Chamberlain 22 pts, 20 rebs, 1 as, 8 blocks, 10-19 FG/FGA – 3 blocks against Jabbar L
-Abdul-Jabbar 32 pts, 22 rebs, 1 as, 1 blocks, 14-30 FG/FGA W
[B]Wilt diminishes Kareem's game impact by elevating his own offensive
production and diminishing Jabbars efficiency, but he does give up too
many rebounds to Jabbar.
Call it a draw.[/B]

Date: Sun 04/11/71
- Chamberlain 26 pts, 22 rebs, 0 as, * blocks, 10-21 FG/FGA - Wilt blocked numerious shots L
-Abdul-Jabbar 22 pts, 10 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 9-19 FG/FGA W
[B]Wilt completely erased Kareem's individual impact on the Buck's,
he actually took Kareem in the negative. He didn't just diminish
Kareem and Increase for himself, he flat out outscored and outrebounded
him despite the fact that the Buck's GO TO Kareem to score. [/B]

Date: Wed 04/14/71
- Chamberlain 24 pts, 24 rebs, 3 as, 3 blocks, 9-19 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 20 pts, 19 rebs, 6 as, 0 blocks, 8-16 FG/FGA L
[B]Same Result. Wilt individually dominated Kareem.[/B]

[B]Date: Fri 04/16/71
- Chamberlain 15 pts, 16 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 7-14 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 31 pts, 20 rebs, 5 as, * blocks, 14-20 FG/FGA W[/B]
[B]Given their duties on the teams, this is the [I]only[/I] game Kareem
had the upper hand.[/B]

Date: Fri 04/16/71
- Chamberlain 23 pts, 12 rebs, 4 as, 6 blocks, 10-21 FG/FGA – 5 blocks against Jabbar L
-Abdul-Jabbar 20 pts, 15 rebs, 5 as, 3 blocks, 7-23 FG/FGA W
[B]Wilt dominated the final match up. They both did not rebound well
because Kareem tried to take his game outside (and Wilt get's most of
his rebounds defensively not offensively.) Wilt outscored Kareem again,
and obliterated Kareem's fg% - he blocked Kareem 5 times. [/B][/CODE]

Video coverage:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWRmCBYymM0&t=13m50s[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnSEwXP_5gc&t=15m25s[/url]

[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r77rhK3LrGg/T0mwP9yvgzI/AAAAAAAADAE/-Bap67Kmjcw/s800/April%25208th%25201971%2520-%2520Lakers%2520hopes%2520rest%2520in%2520Wilt%2520%2528prior%2520to%2520Bucks%2520series%2529.jpg[/IMG]

Consensus of game 2:[I] Wilt bests Lew[/I]... [I]Wilt Devastating[/I]
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KqUzT3hmNHM/T0mwRDj0HDI/AAAAAAAADAY/w6tAYZV4h8c/s800/April%252012th%25201971%2520-%2520Wilt%2520bests%2520lew%2520but%2520Bucks%2520win.jpg[/IMG]

Consensus of game 3: [I]Even Bucks Oscar Robertson commented - "Chamberlain made a big difference"[/I]
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-y0utVbmcpFc/T0mwR-gTNbI/AAAAAAAADA0/fperatU7Ue4/s800/April%252015%25201971%2520-%2520Chamberlain%2520integral%2520to%2520Lakers%2520win%2520at%2520Bucks.jpg[/IMG]

Recap of the series 3 games in: [I]Veteran Chamberlain has kept the NBA Most Valuable Player Alcindor from dominating the series[/I]
[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nHxWpTOo2GM/T0mwRGtb3rI/AAAAAAAADAU/zEE_ivJI4-U/s800/April%252016th%25201971%2520-%2520Recap%2520of%2520Bucks-Lakers%2520playoffs%2520after%25203%2520games.jpg[/IMG]

[I]Milwaukee's[/I] recap of game 5, and the series: Despite the Buck's victory... A massive image of Wilt swatting their MVP is used to showcase the series and it takes up quite a lot of the sports page real estate... Again, this is the [I]Milwaukee Journal[/I] :bowdown: - they extended the game description going out of their way to talk about Wilt's performance for two pages.
Part 1:
[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-su644QKICVc/T0mwR82cKkI/AAAAAAAADAw/hIJy1IteT1E/s800/April%252019th%25201971%2520-%2520Lakers%2520lose%252C%2520Chamberlain%2520ovation.jpg[/IMG]
Part 2:
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0zccCuQRTV4/T0mwRa6V3OI/AAAAAAAADAg/dmJz1jlgwtw/s800/April%252019th%25201971%2520-%2520Part%2520two%2520Milwaukee%2520Journal.jpg[/IMG]

:violin:

Kill yourself.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]'71 series:
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r77rhK3LrGg/T0mwP9yvgzI/AAAAAAAADAE/-Bap67Kmjcw/s800/April%25208th%25201971%2520-%2520Lakers%2520hopes%2520rest%2520in%2520Wilt%2520%2528prior%2520to%2520Bucks%2520series%2529.jpg[/IMG]

Consensus of game 2:[I] Wilt bests Lew[/I]... [I]Wilt Devastating[/I]
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KqUzT3hmNHM/T0mwRDj0HDI/AAAAAAAADAY/w6tAYZV4h8c/s800/April%252012th%25201971%2520-%2520Wilt%2520bests%2520lew%2520but%2520Bucks%2520win.jpg[/IMG]

Consensus of game 3: [I]Even Bucks Oscar Robertson commented - "Chamberlain made a big difference"[/I]
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-y0utVbmcpFc/T0mwR-gTNbI/AAAAAAAADA0/fperatU7Ue4/s800/April%252015%25201971%2520-%2520Chamberlain%2520integral%2520to%2520Lakers%2520win%2520at%2520Bucks.jpg[/IMG]

Recap of the series 3 games in: [I]Veteran Chamberlain has kept the NBA Most Valuable Player Alcindor from dominating the series[/I]
[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nHxWpTOo2GM/T0mwRGtb3rI/AAAAAAAADAU/zEE_ivJI4-U/s800/April%252016th%25201971%2520-%2520Recap%2520of%2520Bucks-Lakers%2520playoffs%2520after%25203%2520games.jpg[/IMG]

[I]Milwaukee's[/I] recap of game 5, and the series: Despite the Buck's victory... A massive image of Wilt swatting their MVP is used to showcase the series and it takes up quite a lot of the sports page real estate... Again, this is the [I]Milwaukee Journal[/I] :bowdown: - they extended the game description going out of their way to talk about Wilt's performance for two pages.
Part 1:
[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-su644QKICVc/T0mwR82cKkI/AAAAAAAADAw/hIJy1IteT1E/s800/April%252019th%25201971%2520-%2520Lakers%2520lose%252C%2520Chamberlain%2520ovation.jpg[/IMG]
Part 2:
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0zccCuQRTV4/T0mwRa6V3OI/AAAAAAAADAg/dmJz1jlgwtw/s800/April%252019th%25201971%2520-%2520Part%2520two%2520Milwaukee%2520Journal.jpg[/IMG]

:violin:

Kill yourself.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.nickadamsweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/white-kid-dance-club.gif[/IMG]

Did not read lol

There are an awful lot of posts in topics like these that probably should be deleted.