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[QUOTE=Punpun]He is averaging 1.2 FG3PA. He makes 0.278% of them. It's a huge dropoff compared to his prime numbers AND his career average.
He is also getting LESS to the line. Which was his speciality.
1. Show your stats
2. I've made NO excuses. You on the other hand. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Why are you harping on 3-point shooting, when that has never been Wade's specialty?
The guy is shooting 49.7 percent from the field...as a SHOOTING GUARD. Now deflect that.
[QUOTE=detroitdogg]before I embarrass you with actual numbers.[/QUOTE]
Show them dog. If you have any. Or what are you going to do ? Put PER on the table ? :oldlol:
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@Loney, Are you stupid or what ? Can't you ****ing see the image I've taken from the mother****ing ESPN site ?
Are they lieing ?
No they ****ing aren't. My point isn't that Wade is bad you dipshit. It's that he is declining. as shown from all his numbers going down.
as shown by his injuries.
As shown by what he does in game.
What do you have ? you have ****ing nothing.
Be more respectful of people who actually gives a shit about the NBA.
[QUOTE=LoneyROY7]Why are you harping on 3-point shooting, when that has never been Wade's specialty?
The guy is shooting 49.7 percent from the field...as a SHOOTING GUARD. Now deflect that.[/QUOTE]
LMAO at a drop in 3pt% meaning someone is on the decline. Lol at just how dump people allow themselves to look.
[QUOTE=detroitdogg]LMAO at a drop in 3pt% meaning someone is on the decline. Lol at just how dump people allow themselves to look.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, good things pretty much all his numbers are down. Be it compared to career average, last season average etc.
[QUOTE=detroitdogg]Lol at just how dump people allow themselves to look.[/QUOTE]
Kaboom!
[QUOTE=Punpun]Show them dog. If you have any. Or what are you going to do ? Put PER on the table ? :oldlol:
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@Loney, Are you stupid or what ? Can't you ****ing see the image I've taken from the mother****ing ESPN site ?
Are they lieing ?
No they ****ing aren't. My point isn't that Wade is bad you dipshit. It's that he is declining. as shown from all his numbers going down.
as shown by his injuries.
As shown by what he does in game.
What do you have ? you have ****ing nothing.
Be more respectful of people who actually gives a shit about the NBA.[/QUOTE]
ROFL at this troll resorting to cursing because he has no argument. You asked for stats, and I gave them to you...now run along.
[QUOTE=LoneyROY7]ROFL at this troll resorting to cursing because he has no argument. You asked for stats, and I gave them to you...now run along.[/QUOTE]
Point them out. Where are your stats somehow proving everything is alright with Wade ? :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Punpun]Yeah, good things pretty much all his numbers are down. Be it compared to career average, last season average etc.[/QUOTE]
Dwayne Wade's career field goal percentage: 48.6 percent.
Dwayne Wade's 2011-2012 field goal percentage: 49.7 percent.
Trading Bosh is the answer, b/c he is horrible. Do people even watch him?
Let's be real: If Bosh was even remotely as good as he was billed to be, as in top 10, it really would be "not 5, not 6, not 7". Imagine if Bosh was as good as KG, Dirk, Love, Blake, Pau, hell even LMA. I'm not even sure he's better than Zbo, Millsap or Josh Smith.
[QUOTE=Punpun]Yeah, good things pretty much all his numbers are down. Be it compared to career average, last season average etc.[/QUOTE]
So you are going to just straight up ignore the 4 less minutes played arent you.
Which would not matter if the percentages were down, but they are not, so just shut the fukk up. When Wade has a year shooting Kobes career average, then we can talk about a decline you fukkin idiot. Fukk outta here lil fella.
And what is that supposed to prove ? Look guys I can understand your anger. Seeing your idol declining, going bad etc. That's painful. I know that.
It's no reason for being disrepectful.
[QUOTE=Punpun]And what is that supposed to prove ?[/QUOTE]
Great counter-argument. :applause:
It's supposed to prove that he is still being very productive and extremely efficient as an NBA shooting guard.
Heat without Wade right now wouldn't get past the Celtics, Bulls or even the Magic with Dwight. :no:
[QUOTE=LoneyROY7]Great counter-argument. :applause:
It's supposed to prove that he is still being very productive and extremely efficient as an NBA shooting guard.[/QUOTE]
And ? Never said he was bad. Just said he was declining. Can you even read ? :biggums:
Look guys I can understand your anger. Seeing your idol declining, going bad etc. That's painful. I know that.
It's no reason for being disrepectful.
[QUOTE=Punpun]And ? Never said he was bad. Just said he was declining. Can you even read ? :biggums:[/QUOTE]
If he's declining, then why is he more efficient now?
ROFL at this troll repeating the same post over and over.
[QUOTE=pmj]Trading Bosh is the answer, b/c he is horrible. Do people even watch him?
Let's be real: If Bosh was even remotely as good as he was billed to be, as in top 10, it really would be "not 5, not 6, not 7". Imagine if Bosh was as good as KG, Dirk, Love, Blake, Pau, hell even LMA. I'm not even sure he's better than Zbo, Millsap or Josh Smith.[/QUOTE]
And to clarify, look at what the Heat's biggest problems are:
Rebounding
Lack of easy interior buckets / post play - leading to weak half court O at times
These are things a PF is supposed to fkn do, especially a max contract PF.
[QUOTE=Punpun]And what is that supposed to prove ?[/QUOTE]
The only thing thats declining is his hops, same as Bron, same as Melo (who barely gets in the air now), same as Amare, why, cause in NBA history dudes start to lose their hops at 28, all these dudes are around that age. Matter of fact, show me one player 28+ still jumping like they did at 23 (K Mart is a exception, dude still jumps high and dunks hard).
Wanna talk about a visible decline, look at Amare, a dude who used to posterize somebody every night, he has bout 4 good finishes as a Knick period. Wade is not jumping as high, but he still splits the double better than anyone in the league, he still averages more shots in the paint than every other perimeter player in the league (even Lebron) (Parker is still up there as always, him and Wade leads every other perimeter player in attempts in the paint per game). wade still gets to the rack at ease, he has missed a bunch of layups that were in and out, I mean seriously, shyt was down and rolled out numerous times. Fukk what you are talking about, when he cant get there anymore then come holla at me about a decline.
So trade your only proven closer/non-choker and a proven Finals MVP who has done it before with the very city that renamed its county (Dade - Wade) after him?
GREAT IDEA
I'm going to bump this thread come playoff time lol
[QUOTE=LBJDW305]I'm going to bump this thread come playoff time lol[/QUOTE]
Good thing my first statement is "Pat Riley has to trade Wade during the off season. Regardless of the result during the post-season." :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=LoneyROY7]If he's declining, then why is he more efficient now?
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No point in talking with someone who can't even read a chart.
[QUOTE=Punpun]Good thing my first statement is "Pat Riley has to trade Wade during the off season. Regardless of the result during the post-season." :rolleyes:
No point in talking with someone who can't even read a chart.[/QUOTE]
So if the FG% is exactly the same, but the shot attempts and minutes per game are down, you are gonna sit here and tell me that minutes are not the reason, you fukkin fool, smh, just.......
[QUOTE=Punpun]Good thing my first statement is "Pat Riley has to trade Wade during the off season. Regardless of the result during the post-season." :rolleyes:
No point in talking with someone who can't even read a chart.[/QUOTE]
No point in talking with someone who can't even comprehend basic statistics.
You do understand there is a reason why his minutes are down right ? And that's not because there is Lebron and Bosh. Even comapred to last year he is playing less minutes. He is also averaging compared ot last year worse stats from the three, worse stats from the FT line and worse stats in FG.
His rebounding got worse too.
And by the way, this his his Second worse season in the FT category in his career. Which means he is fouled less. Which means he is actually driving less to the hoops.
All of this points out to Wade decline having begun.
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[url]http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Dwyane%20Wade[/url]
Look at the scoring stats and percentages, and then shut the fukk up and not comment in this thread anymore, bum ass nygga.
[QUOTE=detroitdogg]
Look at the scoring stats and percentages, and then shut the fukk up and not comment in this thread anymore, bum ass nygga.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://imageftw.com/uploads/20120414/Wade.png[/IMG]
See ? He got worse everywhere here. And if you think it's because his minutes went down (which actually favors the fact he is declining as his body can't take more minutes than this in a regular season), just look at the FG%. Down EVERYWHERE.
Even at the rim. You know, the place that made his career.
You gotta step it up.
[QUOTE=Punpun]You do understand there is a reason why his minutes are down right ?And that's not because there is Lebron and Bosh. Even comapred to last year he is playing less minutes.[/QUOTE]
Nope. Since the ASG Wade has been averaging 35.6min. 33.7min for the season is moot, really. Before the All-star break Wade destroyed teams during the first half, that he never had to play that much in the 2nd half.
[QUOTE]He is also averaging compared ot last year worse stats from the three,[/QUOTE]
When has Wade ever been a 3pter?
[QUOTE] worse stats from the FT line and worse stats in FG.[/QUOTE]
2nd best ft% and fg% for his career. :facepalm
[QUOTE]His rebounding got worse too.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Wade's current trb% is higher than his career average.
'11-'12: 8.6%
Career: 8.0%
[QUOTE]And by the way, this his his Second worse season in the FT category in his career. Which means he is fouled less. Which means he is actually driving less to the hoops.[/QUOTE]
If you mean FGA, yes. He is having his second lowest, not worst, free throw attempts per game. But he is having his 2nd best ft% for his career.
[QUOTE]All of this points out to Wade decline having begun.[/QUOTE]
Moron
[QUOTE=Punpun][IMG]http://imageftw.com/uploads/20120414/Wade.png[/IMG]
See ? He got worse everywhere here. And if you think it's because his minutes went down (which actually favors the fact he is declining as his body can't take more minutes than this in a regular season), just look at the FG%. Down EVERYWHERE.
Even at the rim. You know, the place that made his career.
You gotta step it up.[/QUOTE]
So you remove the rest of the pic, and you just choose to ignore the fact that Wade's shyt has fluctuated around 66% the entire time. So a drop of .6 means a decline, yeah, just as the drop of .3 in FG%. Damn you are one dumb dude bro. Why not post the rest of it, cause you are clowning yourself.
ITT: Stans can't udnerstand the meaning of DECLINING.
Declining doesnt mean that somehow you wake up and you are abum. Declining is slow and gradual. And it has begun. As I've shown thro grpahics.
Who gives a shit if shooting 3 isn't his forte ? Fact is, he got WORSe at shooting it. Which points out to him having begun his decline.
[QUOTE=Punpun]ITT: Stans can't udnerstand the meaning of DECLINING.
Declining doesnt mean that somehow you wake up and you are abum. Declining is slow and gradual. And it has begun. As I've shown thro grpahics.
Who gives a shit if shooting 3 isn't his forte ? Fact is, he got WORSe at shooting it. Which points out to him having begun his decline.[/QUOTE]
No, you fukk ass idiot. I can tell you dont watch games, so shut the fukk up clown. You are on a decline when you can no longer do the things you have been able to do in the past. Wade still does EVERYTHING he has been doing for the past 8 years, some things better some things a lil bit worse. The only decline in Wade, and all of the other stars from the 03 class is his hops, which is also affecting Bron, Melo, Bosh, ect. Why dont you try actually watching games you fukk ass whiteboy. Fukk outta this thread spewing bullshyt.
A decline is visually noticeable, as how everybody said Bron was on the decline when they noticed he does not jump as high. Thats not a fukkin decline as a playes, its an athletic decline you fukkin fool.
Wade has clearly declined. Only Wade and Heat homers would say otherwise.
On one hand you say he hasn't declined, on the other you say he has indeed declined. Thank you dog.
[QUOTE=Heavincent]Wade has clearly declined. Only Wade and Heat homers would say otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Everybody from that class is on an athletic decline, as all NBA players do around the age of 28.
Be specific nygga, a decline in what, cause if you say numbers you are just as big of a clown as the other nygga. He does EVERYTHING the same as he did in his prime, just does not get as high off the ground, same as every other nygga who was drafted around that time. You gotta come better then that my man.
Declining Wade in terms of scoring, right? That's the only category where I see that he has dropped, and maybe FTA.
Wade can still take over a game at any time, and is still the same player that was here last year. The shortened season and injuries have messed up his game. Just wait for the playoffs, and then bump this thread when Wade is holding up that Finals MVP trophy. :D
Wade has declined. Anyone that thinks he is still the same guy that was MVP-esque in 2009 needs to come back to reality.
All the Wade stans say is "Whos going to save LeBron when he chokes in the Finals?". Well Wade certainly didn't do that while LeBron did dominate the Bulls when Wade was choking, and without Wade it is proven LeBron is in a MUCH MORE aggressive mode. When LeBron plays like that he is superior to Wade in nearly every facet of the game. Maybe LeBron plays with balls if Wade isn't there. Who knows.
LeBron plays much more passive with Wade out there. One of the positives of trading Wade for a legit post presence would be a more assertive and dominant LeBron as well as the obvious shoring up the rebounding/interior problems.
And once again I don't think anyone is saying the Heat are better off without Wade, but if you replace him with more depth and a decent Center/power big man, it improves the team tremendously so stop talking like Wade would be gone for nothing. Him and LeBrons talents overlap for them to maximize their playing abilities.
:roll: @all these pathetic Lebronytes in here talking bout trading Wade.:lol
Yeah...that's right trade away the same guy who convinced Lebron to go to Miami in the first place. Since without Wade being on the Heat, Lebron was going to come to the Heat on his own anyway....right?:facepalm Their skillsets overlap each other as many people who know basketball said they would from the time they put this team together. But no.....the Heat championship dynasty was supposed to be built on their back....right?:oldlol: NOW....the answer to both Wade and Lebron being redundant, is to trade Wade instead of Lebron becoming the passer, huh? Makes sense if you don't think about it. More reason why nobody takes Lebronytes nor anything they say seriously.:facepalm
Its called "The Lebron Effect":
superstars become just very good players
very good players become good players
good players become average players
average players become below average
etc etc
Bleeding, you mean Lebron is cancerous ?
[QUOTE=Lebron23]This is probably one of your best posts in this forum.[/QUOTE]
oh give me a break. what are you the post judge? ive yet to see one decent post from you so i would work on handling your own post skills before passing approval onto others.
the heat would be stuuuuuuuuupid to trade wade. unless its for someone like dwight or to try and free up space for deron it would be a horrible move. the only way the heat would get better by dumping wade is by picking up one of those guys or someone of equal caliber. even with dwight what would you be getting yourself into? the heat dont need another basket case.
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]Its called "The Lebron Effect":
superstars become just very good players
very good players become good players
good players become average players
average players become below average
etc etc[/QUOTE]
Yes because Mo Williams has made many allstar games without LeBron and all those cleveland guys were so relevant after he left. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=returnofthemack]oh give me a break. what are you the post judge? ive yet to see one decent post from you so i would work on handling your own post skills before passing approval onto others.
the heat would be stuuuuuuuuupid to trade wade. unless its for someone like dwight or to try and free up space for deron it would be a horrible move. the only way the heat would get better by dumping wade is by picking up one of those guys or someone of equal caliber. even with dwight what would you be getting yourself into? the heat dont need another basket case.[/QUOTE]
STFU. I don't want to talk to you. Miami won't trade Wade. He's already 30 yrs.old. He will finish his career with the Heat.