Carmelo Anthony is currently the best player in basketball

[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks]Worst case scenerio I see him playing similar to how Jordan played during his Washington days... Athletcism long gone but he took to the post, [B]turn around fade-away jumpers[/B], a timely spin followed up with a headfake if the defenders still in front of him, etc.[/QUOTE]

my point is that these things still take athleticism. and timmy is a good case study for that.

if you arent a threat to blow by guys, with your athleticism, the defender can get way up into you, and make these shots much tougher.

[QUOTE=miggyme1]Ok kobe is sittin out right now so wats your point?
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His point is Kobe is now sitting out 4 or 5 games, and the last time he missed games was 2 years ago. The last time before that was 3 years prior, and all were for less than a handful of games. Doesn't equate with injuries Amar'e has had over the last few years.

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U dont have one!why u worried bout the knicks anyway?[/QUOTE]
No one is 'worried' about the Knicks but when someone makes a thread declaring a Knicks player the best in the world from less than 5 games, you have to expect some backlash.

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melo has been showin improvement....that is a FACT[/QUOTE]Melo has shown improvement in 5 games after having by far the worst season of his career for about 45. It doesn't quite make up for it, nor does it even come close to justifying considering him the best in the world. Any time Kobe LeBron or Durant do this (hot streak) the response is always "let's see what they do in the playoffs" but when Melo does it, he's all of a sudden the best? How low the standards are set for him by his own fans should show you that at the moment, he's not in the same league as LeBron/Durant.

[QUOTE=Fiasco]Now I know for sure your mother drank heavily when she was pregnant with you.

Let's play the retard game and use another 5 game stretch from this year.

[B]March 17th-24th: [/B]

[U]Carmelo Anthony [/U]

14. ppg / 5.8 rpg / 2.8 apg / 1.2 spg / 0.389 FG% / 0.117 3P FG%

Remember when you were........ oh right, you were nowhere to be found during then. :oldlol:

Figures a dickmuncher like you is only posting when Carmelo plays like the guy the Knicks traded half their team for.

Kill yourself. Please.[/QUOTE]

I love how you conveniently leave out minutes per game. Why? Because in that beginning stretch under Woodson the Knicks were destroying teams, blowing them out very early in games and Melo as a result hardly played over 30 minutes in most games, which of course took a toll on most of his stats.

The word "now" is kind of a heavy qualifier to what this thread is discussing, jackass. Melo couldn't get a rhythm going earlier in the season because of injuries, and then subsequently being underutilized in the offense and misused as a jumpshooter and bailout shot taker instead of as a post facilitator, which is his natural game. If you think a sub40 FG% defines Melo's abilities in any way, lay off the crack pipe. A healthy Melo in this league is a 30 ppg scorer, and without any consistent scoring threat on the Knicks, he has led the squad to an 8-4 record without both Lin and Amare.

last 12 games he is at +30 ppg, +50% FG. u mad?

[QUOTE=airchibundo507]I love how you conveniently leave out minutes per game. Why? Because in that beginning stretch under Woodson the Knicks were destroying teams, blowing them out very early in games and Melo as a result hardly played over 30 minutes in most games, which of course took a toll on most of his stats.

The word "now" is kind of a heavy qualifier to what this thread is discussing, jackass. Melo couldn't get a rhythm going earlier in the season because of injuries, and then subsequently being underutilized in the offense and misused as a jumpshooter and bailout shot taker instead of as a post facilitator, which is his natural game. If you think a sub40 FG% defines Melo's abilities in any way, lay off the crack pipe. A healthy Melo in this league is a 30 ppg scorer, and without any consistent scoring threat on the Knicks, he has led the squad to an 8-4 record without both Lin and Amare.

last 12 games he is at +30 ppg, +50% FG. u mad?[/QUOTE]


Yeah these idiots try to skew stats. I'm not going to check but Im assuming that was during the winning streak we had under Mike Woodson, where we were frequently blowing out teams and Melo would sit the majority of the 4th quarter. He was playing around 28mpg if I remember. People expecting Melo to score 28ppg in 28mpg, what dumbasses

is this a joke. the guys that melo were guarding scored a total of 58 points. pierce went 11-19 for 43 points and brandon bass shot 6-8 with 15 points.

best player in the league my ass. more like 1 dimensional streaky scorer.

[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]is this a joke. the guys that melo were guarding scored a total of 58 points. pierce went 11-19 for 43 points and brandon bass shot 6-8 with 15 points.

best player in the league my ass. more like 1 dimensional streaky scorer.[/QUOTE]

He had a Triple Double last night

I didnt know contributing extensively in 3 or more categories constitutes a 1 dimensional player

[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks]He had a Triple Double last night

I didnt know contributing extensively in 3 or more categories constitutes a 1 dimensional player[/QUOTE]

and 1 games stats constitutes as the best player in the league?

Not surprising he's doing well in Woodson's iso-driven offense. It's the same system that got Joe Johnson a friggin max contract.

Problem is it doesn't work nearly as well in the playoffs when defenses lock down.

He's obviously not the best player in general, but nobody in the league has played better the last month. Everyone knows about his scoring, he's as good of a scorer as anyone when he's healthy and motivated, but he's been consistently proving that he's a good passer(underrated, but some have taken more notice, Knick commentators have been talking about it all season), and he's one of the best rebounder SF.

[QUOTE=dunksby]Actually he sucked giant balls in the 4th, Knicks should thank Novak for closing the game like he did.[/QUOTE]

Novak was phenomenal, but Melo had an amazing all around game. I love having Novak, you need shooters like that, but there's really no way to diminish Melo's game last night.

[QUOTE=knickswin]
amar'e and melo are just a disaster. but i'm remembering it wasn't THAT bad last year. wasn't great, but wasn't that bad. why? because amar'e was hitting that 18-20 foot jumper very well. if you watch highlight tapes from amar'e from last year, his 25+ point games before melo featured a lot of points in the point. after melo came along there were a lot more jump shots. not ideal, because it makes amar'e less efficient, but I'd rather see that than the mess that has been most of this season.[/QUOTE]

They weren't anywhere near this bad together last season. You're right, Amare's jumper looked much better last night, but he was also more explosive.

Part of the problem is that Amare seems to play better at center offensively because he has more room for his jumper and more of a quickness advantage offensively over the man guarding him. Aside from that one stretch after the Shaq trade in '08, his best offensive basketball has always been at center.

Remember, he got off to a slow start last season, was switched to center and started playing arguably the best basketball of his career before the Melo trade.

Even after the trade they were a pretty high scoring duo last year. Here are their numbers after the all-star break.

Melo- 26.3 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 3 apg, 2.4 TO, 46.1 FG%, 57.5 TS%
Amare- 23.5 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.4 apg, 2.6 TO, 1.3 bpg, 49.1 FG%, 55.3 TS%

Obviously Amare wasn't nearly as good as he was before the trade, and it strangely brought down the other parts of his game, but about 50 ppg between a duo is pretty damn good. Only went 14-14, but that's not bad with a supporting cast of Billups(who missed 7 of those games), Toney Douglas, Landry Fields, Shawne Williams, Ronny Turiaf and Anthony Carter.

[QUOTE=airchibundo507]last 5 games:

31.4 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 4.4 apg, 1.6 spg, 52.2% FG, 37% 3P FG

and against elite defenses such as chicago, miami and boston

find me better numbers, btch[/QUOTE]

Last 12 games(since Lin and Amare went down)

30.4 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 3.4 apg, 2.9 TO, 1.6 spg, 50.4 FG%, 59.3 TS%

:applause:

[QUOTE=chips93]
well, they were wrong, timmy can barely score in the post anymore

there is a difference between not relying on athleticism, and relying on the mediocre athleticism that you have.[/QUOTE]

2 things wrong with this. Duncan was not a mediocre athlete for a 7 footer when he was young, and he's playing very well right now at about 36 years old.

He's had knee problems, and his stamina also hasn't been the same, which have affected his game. I did probably expect him to have stayed elite longer than he did, but how well he's playing right now at his age deserves a lot of respect, and he's remained an essential part of an elite team. Not many stars can make that transition so smoothly as they decline.

[QUOTE=ILLsmak]Duncan isn't as good of a player as people think he is. Sorry, but it's just true. If he was as tough and skilled as people said, he would still be scoring. He should be wetting jumpers, too. No reason why dude doesn't have 3 point range. I mean he does, but he could be shooting 3s. He should be wet from everywhere and be able to score on anyone in the post. He didn't suddenly get smaller. There aren't suddenly better players guarding him. [/QUOTE]

:wtf: Duncan should be shooting 3s? What the hell are you talking about? That would make no sense...at all.

He's always had a nice shot up to about 18-20 feet, and I wouldn't want him out any farther than that.

[QUOTE=hawksdogsbraves]Not surprising he's doing well in Woodson's iso-driven offense. It's the same system that got Joe Johnson a friggin max contract.

Problem is it doesn't work nearly as well in the playoffs when defenses lock down.[/QUOTE]

Well, there's a massive difference between Joe Johnson and Melo. I don't think anyone other than the Hawks thought giving Johnson a max contract was a good idea.

[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks]You pretty much had nothing to say in your reply aside from the fact that youre upset. Boohoo wahhhhh somebody doesnt like your team and it rubbed you the wrong way lmao. "wahhhh somebody doesnt like my Rockets wahhhhhh". Youre retort mirrors that of a 5 year olds temper tantrum, alot of noise and whining but when its over nothing of value was said or accomplished. What a loser so mad somebody isnt a Rocket fan[/QUOTE]

What the f*ck you just say? Seriously. Everything that you just said makes 0 sense. Wow you're an ever bigger retard than I initially suspected.

[QUOTE=ImmortalNemesis]What the f*ck you just say? Seriously. Everything that you just said makes 0 sense. Wow you're an ever bigger retard than I initially suspected.[/QUOTE]

I can already tell 2 things about you; you're probaby broke and have a low ranking position at your place of employment.

The next thing im wondering is: do you have a GED?

Melo has been the best player in basketball for about a month or so. Hopefully he can take it into the playoffs.

[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks]I can already tell 2 things about you; you're probaby broke and have a low ranking position at your place of employment.

The next thing im wondering is: do you have a GED?[/QUOTE]

2/10. Even your insults are garbage.

:cry: [I]NY is never lucky. Why can't New York get a decent pick like Houston or San Antonio. Wha! wha wha! Somebody call the whambulance.
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F*cking fakkit.

[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks]Where are the "fans" who said Melo was a cancer? Where you at?!?!

I NEVER wavered in my support of the guy while you chumps, you sheep who are controlled by the opinions expressed in newspaper articles turned your back on the most VERSATILE scorer in the game today.

[B]8 years of dominance [/B]> Half an injury fille season of inconsistent play

But ofcourse for you sheep its all about "what have you done for me in the past 24 hours".

Learn the damn game[/QUOTE]


Losing in the 1st round = dominance?

[QUOTE=Heavincent]Melo has been the best player in basketball for about a month or so. Hopefully he can take it into the playoffs.[/QUOTE]


Having a couple weeks where he is playing like ONE of the best players doesnt make him the best player.. He has free reign on Knicks with no Lin or Stat.. Imagine stats Lebron would put up ? Games like last night would be the norm..

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Having a couple weeks where he is playing like ONE of the best players doesnt make him the best player.. He has free reign on Knicks with no Lin or Stat.. Imagine stats Lebron would put up ? Games like last night would be the norm..[/QUOTE]

Exacly. Replace Melo with Lebron and the Knicks are easily a top 2-4 seed. Plus Lebron's game would fit amazing with Amare and the Knicks snipers around the arc.

[QUOTE=chips93]after lebron really overplayed melo's jumper, imo. there was no need in lebron getting that tight onto melo on a lot of melo's drives.[/QUOTE]
The Heat's gameplan was to have Lebron take away Melo's jumper and force him baseline, but Bosh/Haslem/Whoever was late on their rotations the whole game.

[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks]He has a quick first step yes.

But my point was...that nobody seems to be able to grasp...is that his game is NOT BASED ON ATHLETICISM. And unless you just started watching basketball recently youd know that.

75% of Melos scoring is in the post, or dancing around and pulling up for mid range jumpers. His game is pretty similar to Paul Pierces overall, slow moving overall but based on a lot of basketball savvy and guile. Because of this Melo will be an effective scorer for quite some time (just like Pierce)[/QUOTE]
Again, what are you talking about? Melo has one of, if not THE quickest first step in the league for his size, and his game revolves heavily around that. Melo is a good athlete who relies plenty on his athleticism.

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Losing in the 1st round = dominance?[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Exacly. Replace Melo with Lebron and the Knicks are easily a top 2-4 seed. Plus Lebron's game would fit amazing with Amare and the Knicks snipers around the arc.[/QUOTE]

What snipers? If you mean Novak, well D'umbtoni never even played him until Melo got hurt midway through the year. JR Smith didn't come till the end of the year either since he was in China.

So no, Lebron would not have been amazing with all our snipers. He would have struggled with Toney Douglas at the point, and Landry "Can't Hit A Jumper To Save My Life" Fields at the shooting guard, just like Melo did all year.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]What snipers? If you mean Novak, well D'umbtoni never even played him until Melo got hurt midway through the year. JR Smith didn't come till the end of the year either since he was in China.

So no, Lebron would not have been amazing with all our snipers. He would have struggled with Toney Douglas at the point, and Landry "Can't Hit A Jumper To Save My Life" Fields at the shooting guard, just like Melo did all year.[/QUOTE]


Hold on.. Melo is not as Good as Lebron end of story and Discussion.. Novak and JR Smith Both can go Crazy from deep Miller and Battier not shooting anywhere near as good nor are they as good/Consistent shooters. Also Lebron playing With Chandler alone on Pick and Roles and Drive and Dumps would get him a few assists per gm unlike the Trash/Stone hand bad Finishing centers Heat have.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]What snipers? If you mean Novak, well D'umbtoni never even played him until Melo got hurt midway through the year. JR Smith didn't come till the end of the year either since he was in China.

So no, Lebron would not have been amazing with all our snipers. He would have struggled with Toney Douglas at the point, and Landry "Can't Hit A Jumper To Save My Life" Fields at the shooting guard, just like Melo did all year.[/QUOTE]

And wherever Melo goes, JR follows. No way JR joins LeBron in NY without Melo's lobbying. JR would be in LAC right now or plotting a way to join Melo's team.

[QUOTE=airchibundo507]And wherever Melo goes, JR follows. No way JR joins LeBron in NY without Melo's lobbying. JR would be in LAC right now or plotting a way to join Melo's team.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: JR joined the Nicks because he liked NYC. Not because he likes the taste of Melo's dick :lol :facepalm

[QUOTE=KingBeasley08]:oldlol: JR joined the Nicks because he liked NYC. Not because he likes the taste of Melo's dick :lol :facepalm[/QUOTE]

JR even said himself that Melo was the one who persuaded him to come to NY. They are super close if you haven't realized; Melo is the godfather of his child. JR was even more likely to join the Clippers anyway due to Billups going down right around the time the Chinese regular season had ended. He would have had more playing and greater opportunity to showcase his talent. Of course no one expected the injuries New York has endured.

"Carmelo Anthony is currently the best player in basketball"

I'm going to answer the question and the question only. Yes carmelo is currently the best basketball player in this Month span. Do I expect him to keep it up? maybe. I bet my balls he's gonna be over shadowed by at least 3 other superstars when the playoffs start. There are better players than Melo. Fact.

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Losing in the 1st round = dominance?[/QUOTE]

6 years of averaging 24+ ppg. Career high of 29ppg in 07-08 i believe. Individual dominance. Advancing in the playoffs is a team accomplishment. You cant take 1 player put them against a team of 5 and expect them to win right? Its a team game.

But go ahead manipulate words and stats to suit your individual preferences. Its obvious you have an agenda. Bias has no place in this thread

if you mean in the last 10 games or so then your right.

Last couple weeks yes he has been.

I doubt he will be able to keep it up but I'm hoping he can play excellent consistently in the playoffs.

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Lebron would love to Have Snipers Like Novak and JR Smith on the Outside.. [B]Miller and Battier stinking it up right now[/B]..[/QUOTE]

It's because they don't have triple-double machine Carmelo Anthony making those perfect passes to their hands. :pimp:

[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks]How long have you been watching Kobe? Young Kobe was a slasher whos dunking ability rivaled Vince Carters. Hed blow by defenders with a quick first step and throw it down on some of the best big men around. But ofcourse you wouldnt know that, my guess is youve only been watching basketball for a few years.

Google the terms: "Ectomorph" , "Mesomorph" , and "Endomorph". Those are he 3 body type categories, and most people are a mix of the 3. There is no "right or wrong" bodytype (unless someone is morbidly obese ofcourse); people are born with different bone structure and genetic composition.

Some people are naturally very skinny and childlike in their bodys like Steph Curry, some are overtly muscular like Dwight Howard, some are naturally overweight like Zach Randolph, and others are somewhere in between like Melo. Why does Zach Randolph have a fat face and soft musculature despite all the time he spends in the gym? Its genetics and hes an effective player both despite it and because of it[/QUOTE]

Your first paragraph doesn't have anything to do with my joke about Kobe getting fat like Melo someday. Reading comprehension son. I've been watching basketball since the days of Magic and Kareem and I forgot more stuff than you will ever know about basketball.

Your other two paragraphs are full of bro-science and your 3rd grade edjucation is on full display. Better luck next time.

Man, this Knicks team with healthy Amare and Lin would be scary.

[QUOTE=Kobe 4 The Win]Your first paragraph doesn't have anything to do with my joke about Kobe getting fat like Melo someday. Reading comprehension son. I've been watching basketball since the days of Magic and Kareem and I forgot more stuff than you will ever know about basketball.

Your other two paragraphs are full of bro-science and your 3rd grade edjucation is on full display. Better luck next time.[/QUOTE]

3rd grade? Got a Finance degree, and ill be taking the GMATs within the year...but nice try brah.

Secondly i was explaining how there are different ways to score i.e. the Kobe example, and different body types that are perfectly acceptable. Ectomorph, Mesomorph, and Endomorph. Not every athlete has the prototypical body of an athlete, but under the exterior many of them still possess many of the attributes that are essential to elite level athletes. Melos body is that of Mesomorph, one that is naturally bulky and strong, broad shoulders, puts on slow twitch muscle quite easily but also has a propensity to gain fat quite easily. He has alot of power under the soft exterior

Bump.

He's garbage.
Not a team player.

[QUOTE=The Ownage]Last couple weeks yes he has been.

I doubt he will be able to keep it up but [B]I'm hoping he can play excellent consistently in the playoffs[/B].[/QUOTE]

:biggums:

He gave it his all tonight. Unfortunately no other Knick really showed up and the Heat role players went HAM from 3.

:hammerhead:

LOL

[QUOTE=Bladers]Bump.

He's garbage.
Not a team player.[/QUOTE]

Why'd you predict the Knicks to beat the Heat then?

[QUOTE=Simple Jack]Why'd you predict the Knicks to beat the Heat then?[/QUOTE]

Cause I thought he would step up and play an all around game like he did in the end of the reg season..

But he's just going one on one and chucking and falling right into miami's hands.

Archibundo is a fakkit who is worse than all of the Heat bandwagoners. Now, where is this guy? :roll:

basically the only team with a chance is Boston now. Miami got it going good this year lol