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[QUOTE=Punpun]Dude, is it my fault there is Jordan's name there ? And that another player ihas the possibility to pass his record ? Is that my freaking fault ? Seriously ?[/QUOTE]
I didn't say it was your fault. It was just going to happen, no mater who the poster was.
I wouldn't really care either if LeBron James or Kevin Durant broke the record one day either... I would probably see the same thing happen, but to a lesser degree.
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]Its one shot per game.[/QUOTE]
No... stop it.
Stop making this more of Jordan vs Bryant debate than it already was forced to be.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]No... stop it.
Stop making this more of Jordan vs Bryant debate than it already was forced to be.[/QUOTE]
The difference between 50% and 45% on 20 attempts is one shot per game. I'm just talking math here, nothing attached to names.
:)
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]The difference between 50% and 45% on 20 attempts is one shot per game. I'm just talking math here, nothing attached to names.
:)[/QUOTE]
Okay... as long as we can keep it that way.
[QUOTE=chazzy]Yeah.. you didn't watch the game last night[/QUOTE]
Yes I did watch the game, I think Kobe should shoot, but his style of shooting at times makes guys quit or "stand and watch" way more than MJ, (except Jordans early days...he was the same way). Kobe is in season 16...shouldn't he be more selective by now?
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]Its one shot per game.[/QUOTE]
yup and over a career is 7 less ppg
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Kobe 3pt attempts: 858
Jordan 3pt attempts: 446[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Jordan now sucks because he had better shot seletion than Kobe....Kobe was forced to chuck those threes....which still result if less ppg
Amazing that these stans can act like Kobe is anywhere near the playoff performer Jordan was. :oldlol:
MJ's playoff numbers through his first retirement (111 games, 24 series):
[B]34.8 pts/6.7 reb/6.7 ast/2.4 stl/1.1 blk/51.5% FG[/B]. Yeah, that's basically 35/7/7/2+/1+/51% FG over 111 playoff games. Unreal that anyone thinks Kobe compares when he's had maybe - MAYBE - a half dozen series in his ENTIRE CAREER that are even ON that level, and probably only 2-3 that are clearly superior to it.
[QUOTE=Calabis]Yes I did watch the game, I think Kobe should shoot, but his style of shooting at times makes guys quit or "stand and watch" way more than MJ, (except Jordans early days...he was the same way). Kobe is in season 16...shouldn't he be more selective by now?[/QUOTE]
He had around ~22 shots going into the 4th and shot 7 or 8 down the stretch when he got them back into the game. His shooting isn't an excuse for Bynum's body language throughout the game.
[QUOTE=Calabis]yup and over a career is 7 less ppg[/QUOTE]
nvm. respecting Legends66 wishes.
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]nvm. respecting Legends66 wishes.[/QUOTE]
Yes, nevermind me and you have done this before..its pointless :cheers:
I'm in despair. Thanks for trolling me and ruining my thread.
[QUOTE=Calabis]Yes I did watch the game, I think Kobe should shoot, but his style of shooting at times makes guys quit or "stand and watch" way more than MJ, (except Jordans early days...he was the same way). Kobe is in season 16...shouldn't he be more selective by now?[/QUOTE]
What exactly are your credentials to determine how a five time champion should approach the game?
[QUOTE=The Iron Fist]What exactly are your credentials to determine how a five time champion should approach the game?[/QUOTE]
I think Kobe approaches the game fine, he's also a great playoff game performer.....but when you start comparing him, too arguable the best playoff performer, he comes up short period. Kobe in my mind tends to try to force the memorable moment too often....two seasons ago against the Suns, dude played brillant basketball, it was pure art watching him play that series. He played in the frame of the offense, took high quality shots, took what the defense gave him...therefore outstanding series performance.
[QUOTE=Calabis]I think Kobe approaches the game fine, he's also a great playoff game performer.....but when you start comparing him, too arguable the best playoff performer, he comes up short period.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.
I'd be disappointed if he doesn't considering how many more games he has played.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.[/QUOTE]
I don't either, but any Kobe/MJ thread, one or the other is brought up and comparison is made
[quote=Legends66NBA7]To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.[/quote]
this
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.[/QUOTE]
Dude, OP is a notorious Kobetard/troll. It was clearly his intention to imply Kobe>MJ purely to start trouble.
[QUOTE=Calabis]I don't either, but any Kobe/MJ thread, one or the other is brought up and comparison is made[/QUOTE]
Good point.
This is why I even told the OP, that things, like the comparisons on ISH, will be inevitable. Not his fault.
Not at all son. Though I'm notorious, now that's funny. :oldlol:
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Please, the only, I thought, thing susceptible to cause bs like that in my opening statement was me flat out writing the Lakers would make the finals.
Turns out, simply saying some player is going to break some other guy record is enough to turn a HIM vs HIM. Which really show you guys would talk about anything.
[QUOTE=NumberSix]It was clearly his intention to imply [B]Kobe>MJ [/B]purely to start trouble.[/QUOTE]
I didn't think he was trying to compare, at all, or even say Kobe > MJ.
If that was his intention, then really... we should already know by now who's better, anyways.
Dude, am I notorious ? :biggums:
[QUOTE=Punpun]Dude, am I notorious ? :biggums:[/QUOTE]
:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]To be honest, I don't think that was the OP's intention.[/QUOTE]
thats exactly OPs intention was.
There is a 8 ppg Playoffs difference btw Kobe & MJ.
Something Kobe can never think of overcoming.
Kobe is a "good" playoff performer not "great" & OP knows that.
MJ is not just "great" but "the greatest" playoffs performer ever.
Guys, Kobe is also going to shatters KAJ's record. Oh my god, am I impling something here too ?
:biggums:
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]The difference between 50% and 45% on 20 attempts is one shot per game. I'm just talking math here, nothing attached to names.
:)[/QUOTE]
NO IT' IT'S NOT....
If i take 20 and hit 10 for 50%...you take 20 hit 9 for 45%....you have to hit your next to shots to hit 50%.
You're 2 shots off pace. That adds up majorly over the course of a season.
Let's put it this way....if it was essentially just "1 shot", and it's so damn close. Then how come Kobe hasn't had add least ONE DAMN SEASON of 50%FG ?? If it was close, the odds would have swung in favor of 50%FG at least once.
Don't bring "3-pointers" into the argument either. Kobe's had a few seasons taking just 2-3 attempts from 3 and still never came close to 50%FG
[QUOTE=Punpun]Guys, Kobe is also going to shatters KAJ's record. Oh my god, am I impling something here too ?
:biggums:[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
So you want Kobe to shatter KAJs record so a muslim doesn't hold the records?
Fckin' racist.
And proud of it. Wacchu gonna do ? :coleman:
[QUOTE=Calabis]I think Kobe approaches the game fine, he's also a great playoff game performer.....but when you start comparing him, too arguable the best playoff performer, he comes up short period. Kobe in my mind tends to try to force the memorable moment too often....two seasons ago against the Suns, dude played brillant basketball, it was pure art watching him play that series. He played in the frame of the offense, took high quality shots, took what the defense gave him...therefore outstanding series performance.[/QUOTE]
Nobody is comparing them though. It was simply pointed out that a recored will be broken.
[QUOTE=The Iron Fist]Nobody is comparing them though. It was simply pointed out that a recored will be broken.[/QUOTE]
I know the OP's intention was not to compare, I simply replied to Deuce Bigalow who was doing exactly that
This thread is awfully premature. I will say I believe that it will happen, but all it takes is one injury and that hope is gone. If the Lakers play 12 games this playoffs, and he gets injured next year then he may never play another playoff game in is life.
I wish him the best of health though, and I want to see him hold that record. Just one more cherry on the sundae that is Kobe Bryant's NBA career. Truly one of the greats.
The amazing thing is that MJ is the only player to even average 30+ ppg in the playoffs for a career. In fact he is basically 4 ppg higher than anyone else. Not to mention Kobe has already played 34 more playoff games than MJ due to him going to a winning organization from the get go with a guy in his prime who was top 3 in the league from the get go.
[QUOTE=Duncan21formvp]The amazing thing is that MJ is the only player to even average 30+ ppg in the playoffs for a career. In fact he is basically 4 ppg higher than anyone else. Not to mention Kobe has already played 34 more playoff games than MJ due to him going to a winning organization from the get go with a guy in his prime who was top 3 in the league from the get go.[/QUOTE]
Jordan dumped 49 and 63 in the second playoff series he ever played against the eventual NBA champion Boston Celtics on their NBA-record 40-1 home floor. :wtf:
Just a sign of things to come....:pimp:
[QUOTE=bwink23]Jordan dumped 49 and 63 in the second playoff series he ever played against the eventual NBA champion Boston Celtics on their NBA-record 40-1 home floor. :wtf:
Just a sign of things to come....:pimp:[/QUOTE]
and got swept
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]and got swept[/QUOTE]
Yes....his sorry ass team got swept by the NBA Champion Celtics. Jordan didn't have the luxury of coming to a team that won 56 games the year prior like someone we both know....:lol
[QUOTE=bwink23]Yes....his sorry ass team got swept by the NBA Champion Celtics. Jordan didn't have the luxury of coming to a team that won 56 games the year prior like someone we both know....:lol[/QUOTE]
[SIZE="7"]KOBE[/SIZE]
[U]34 more playoff games[/U] and still has 62 fewer rebounds, 11 fewer assists, 75 fewer steals and 15 fewer blocks than MJ.
MJ took 166 more shots than Kobe, but incredibly Kobe has already missed 83 more field goals. :hammerhead:
PPG>>>>>>>>>>>Total points when you have a decent sample size.
[QUOTE=bwink23]Yes....his sorry ass team got swept by the NBA Champion Celtics. Jordan didn't have the luxury of coming to a team that won 56 games the year prior like someone we both know....:lol[/QUOTE]
And what championship does that 56 win team have?