[QUOTE=B-Easy8]How do the Wolves get better from this?
No way we would do that awful trade.[/QUOTE]
Lakers don't get any better either. They add two knuckleheads onto a team that already struggles with the team concept.
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[QUOTE=B-Easy8]How do the Wolves get better from this?
No way we would do that awful trade.[/QUOTE]
Lakers don't get any better either. They add two knuckleheads onto a team that already struggles with the team concept.
I can see Lakers opening up talks with Rockets about Gasol-Lowry (being the main pieces in a deal). If the relationship with McHale and Lowry is sour, then its obvious Dragic who really blossomed is the guy they will lock up.
[QUOTE=blacknapalm]idk. i feel dragic has better court vision, is the better ball handler and is the more consistent shooter. those are all things LA needs. they don't need a bunch of scoring from the PG position...at least for the next couple seasons. i mean, depends what happens in the offseason of course. i'm almost certain dragic is going to command too much money for LA to go after him though. i think LA will stick with sessions for at least one more season and see how he does. it's not like LA is known for making sudden PG changes, lol[/QUOTE]
I think Lowry has the better court vision. He spreads the floor for everyone, creates transition, really makes other players better. He has unlimited range and is a better shooter, if he calms his shots down. But I agree that Dragic is a more consistent shooter. But Dragic is more a scorer than Lowry is.
The thing I'm most impressed with, with Kyle Lowry, is how he can affect the game in such different ways. He can give you 35 one night, but he might give you 2 the next...and rack up 15 assists, and really dominate the game. I think he's pretty special.
Dragic will make more than Lowry. And Houston is likely to stick with Dragic. I always thought that. McHale clearly prefers Dragic. McHale limited Lowry's game a lot during the season. Also, Lowry has the best contract in the NBA. And he's great. He would command a lot in a trade. And trading him is better than losing Dragic for nothing.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]I think Lowry has the better court vision. He spreads the floor for everyone, creates transition, really makes other players better. He has unlimited range and is a better shooter, if he calms his shots down. But I agree that Dragic is a more consistent shooter. But Dragic is more a scorer than Lowry is.
The thing I'm most impressed with, with Kyle Lowry, is how he can affect the game in such different ways. He can give you 35 one night, but he might give you 2 the next...and rack up 15 assists, and really dominate the game. I think he's pretty special.
Dragic will make more than Lowry. And Houston is likely to stick with Dragic. I always thought that. McHale clearly prefers Dragic. McHale limited Lowry's game a lot during the season. Also, Lowry has the best contract in the NBA. And he's great. He would command a lot in a trade. And trading him is better than losing Dragic for nothing.[/QUOTE]
Lowry is more balanced at this point due to his defense but offensively Dragic is better in every way to me. Better playmaker, better pure shooter, better at running the team on the court. It sounds so cliche because Nash mentored him and he's a white guy but Dragic truly looks like Nash 2.0 a lot of times. The way he goes right up the gut of the defense and makes flashy passes out of traffic to open shooters is beautiful.
[QUOTE=GOBB]I can see Lakers opening up talks with Rockets about Gasol-Lowry (being the main pieces in a deal). If the relationship with McHale and Lowry is sour, then its obvious Dragic who really blossomed is the guy they will lock up.[/QUOTE]
This is a no-brainer and it might have got done at the deadline if Lowry wasn't hurt
Right now Lowry might have more trade value than Gasol, and there's a huge disparity in their contracts. I don't know how is LA going to compensate since giving Lowry/Scola for Gasol seems like giving away too much for the Rockets.
Dragic doesn't seem like the most likeable guy.
[quote=Haymaker]Right now Lowry might have more trade value than Gasol, and there's a huge disparity in their contracts. I don't know how is LA going to compensate since giving Lowry/Scola for Gasol seems like giving away too much for the Rockets.[/quote]Even with gasol's declining value I think he is worth more than lowry but I also agree the lowry/scola would be too much to give up for Pau. Seems to me that a 3rd team is needed if this deal is at all possible.
[QUOTE=bdreason]Dragic doesn't seem like the most likeable guy.[/QUOTE]
No, the difference between Scola and Gasol is not a Kyle Lowry on a great contract..
Lol at Laker fans hyping Gasol as a top 3 PF after crucifying him online just a week ago
[QUOTE=sagr32]Even with gasol's declining value I think he is worth more than lowry but I also agree the lowry/scola would be too much to give up for Pau. Seems to me that a 3rd team is needed if this deal is at all possible.[/QUOTE]
The funny thing is that some lakerfans don't think that Scola and Lowry is enough, they even want Martin or Lee in the trade as well..:roll:
[QUOTE=BallsOut]Typical Knicks fan, still trying to justify the Jordan Hill trade. :oldlol:
Let's pretend like last year's draft wasn't one of the weakest drafts of all time. Irving was a legit #1 pick, then the rest of the draft picks may as well have been 2nd rounders. Are we gonna act like if Jordan Hill went into last year's draft out of college, he wouldn't be right there with Williams? :biggums:[/QUOTE]
It's easy to just say things and ignore the already immediate results of the draft.
A bunch of terrific players who came out of the draft and "they may as well have been 2nd rounders" is an ignorant statement.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Lowry is more balanced at this point due to his defense but offensively Dragic is better in every way to me. Better playmaker, better pure shooter, better at running the team on the court. It sounds so cliche because Nash mentored him and he's a white guy but Dragic truly looks like Nash 2.0 a lot of times. The way he goes right up the gut of the defense and makes flashy passes out of traffic to open shooters is beautiful.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Lowry has better vision and is a much better passer. What Dragic does better is run pure pick n' roll. He's a better slasher, naturally getting all the way to the rim. And I do think he's a better pure game manager.
But I can't see him being a better playmaker than Lowry, in any way. The thing that could be an issue for Lowry is his consistency in putting it all together. But like I said, his stat lines change every night, but he always produces. I think his assist totals don't do justice to how much better he makes players. He makes Scola a much better player. Obviously, he's the better rebounder and defender. I also think that, after the big 7, he's the best PG in the NBA.
If I was projecting, I'd say that Dragic might very well establish himself as a top 10 PG next season. But I'd have Lowry near the tier of the other 7.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]I disagree. Lowry has better vision and is a much better passer. What Dragic does better is run pure pick n' roll. He's a better slasher, naturally getting all the way to the rim. And I do think he's a better pure game manager.
But I can't see him being a better playmaker than Lowry, in any way. The thing that could be an issue for Lowry is his consistency in putting it all together. But like I said, his stat lines change every night, but he always produces. I think his assist totals don't do justice to how much better he makes players. He makes Scola a much better player. Obviously, he's the better rebounder and defender. I also think that, after the big 7, he's the best PG in the NBA.
If I was projecting, I'd say that Dragic might very well establish himself as a top 10 PG next season. But I'd have Lowry near the tier of the other 7.[/QUOTE]
Dragic was on a hot steak. Lowry should be a better player next year.
Dragic can hit some passes that Lowry clearly can't but he is more ball dominant. Lowry has more impact on the game. I rather keep Lowry as a Rockets fan.
[QUOTE=gasolina]Lol at Laker fans hyping Gasol as a top 3 PF after crucifying him online just a week ago[/QUOTE]
I all about keeping Gasol and trading Bynum though.
Dragic to NY needs to happen.
i wouldn't want to play for Mchale either. he's the same idiot that signed Dalembert when teams wanted him, then goes and gets Camby too. i'd have been pissed if i were Dalembert since he could've gone back to Sacramento with guaranteed PT. Mchale has always tried to make everything some competition and abruptly sits players in favor of others on a dime. He'd just be a horrible coach to play for if you're not a already known star guaranteed your minutes. can't blame Lowry at all, especially when you think you've proven yourself enough, but are going to have to fight for PT or emphasis again.
its sort of like the Bears signing Michael Bush while still having Forte, altho football's a little different since its nice to really have depth there and both are used more to spell each other. still, i don't blame Forte for being pissed.