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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Kevin_Garnett_5]:oldlol: If they were trying their best to trade him, why wasn't he traded? Surely if they wanted him gone so bad they could've shipped him away for scrubs or draft picks, right?
I swear some people on here are completely clueless.[/QUOTE]
Come on man don't try to get smart with me. Don't pretend like the FO wasn't trying to get rid of him for younger talent. Just because they didn't see any packages they wanted doesn't mean his ass wasn't getting shopped. They weren't trading him for the sake of trading.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]Come on man don't try to get smart with me. Don't pretend like the FO wasn't trying to get rid of him for younger talent. Just because they didn't see any packages they wanted doesn't mean his ass wasn't getting shopped. They weren't trading him for the sake of trading.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: Oh, so now they weren't "trying their best to trade him"? They were simply trying to see if they could get value for him? Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
The entire Big 4 was involved in trade discussions. Why should Ray be exempt?
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
He will receive hate by those who despise the Heat and some Celtics fans.
He shouldn't be hated if he chooses to go to another team.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Kevin_Garnett_5]:oldlol: Oh, so now they weren't "trying their best to trade him"? They were simply trying to see if they could get value for him? Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
[B]The entire Big 4 was involved in trade discussions.[/B] Why should Ray be exempt?[/QUOTE]
Do you have a link to this? I only remember Allen's name in potential trade rumors, and maybe Rondo. But I heard nothing of KG and I think the entire city of Boston would riot if Pierce were traded, even for LeBron.
While I think Ray Allen would be smart to sign the 2 year 12 million deal Boston is offering, I don't see why he would be so hated by reasonable Boston fans if he left. He's never had any issues with teammates or Doc even when his name was brought up in potential trades. He was also a big part of the championship back in 08. Nothing he does will be able to take that away from Boston.
You gonna hate the dude simply because he might make Miami more formidable?
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Kevin_Garnett_5]:oldlol: Oh, so now they weren't "trying their best to trade him"? They were simply trying to see if they could get value for him? Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
The entire Big 4 was involved in trade discussions. Why should Ray be exempt?[/QUOTE]
He shouldn't be. My point is that he doesn't owe the Celtics a damn thing and going to the Heat is no betrayal of any kind.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Ray has always stated once he was dealt from the Bucks - he would only chance the Bucks , unless a coat tail was available
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
no way he will be in miami
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=InfiniteBaskets]Do you have a link to this? I only remember Allen's name in potential trade rumors, and maybe Rondo. But I heard nothing of KG and I think the entire city of Boston would riot if Pierce were traded, even for LeBron.
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KG for Josh Smith was a big rumor at the deadline, Doc Rivers was even asked about it (He denied it of course), and Pierce's name came up in a bunch of different rumors. I think I remember hearing he was offered for the Nets draft pick and they ended up trading it for Gerald Wallace instead.
As far as Rondo goes, off the top of my head I remember him being rumored to be traded to the Hornets, the Lakers, the Pacers, the Warriors, and the Thunder.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
I'm not really a die hard fan of any team, I do like Boston, I guess more so since I live here now, and I do like Ray Allen, but I won't think less of him if he goes to Miami. He's been in trading discussions 2 seasons in a row, so it's not like Boston has really treated him like gold. And it's not like he's been on the Celts his entire career.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
A lot of people will lose respect for him cuz it'll make it look like he's lowering himself to being a "ring chaser." The same way Shaq did when he signed in Cleveland and then Boston.
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Fukk Boston and the horse they rode in on.
Ray Allen will never be more popular and will never have more notoriety than being a Miami Heatle..
and he knows this
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Hank]Fukk Boston and the horse they rode in on.
[B]Ray Allen will never be more popular and will never have more notoriety than being a Miami Heatle..[/B]
and he knows this[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: I'm sure he's dying for "Heat have lost four in a row, Lebron's supporting cast sucks again!" comments to come flying his way four or five times a year. Notoriety is friggin' awesome when you're 37 and on the tail end of your career.
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Will be interesting
If ray is going to be a backup he would much rather backup wade than Bradley I get the feeling.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]he's only gonna catch heat from boston fans.[/QUOTE]
Not true. The World Hates the Miami Heat. Shane Battier was one of the good guys. Now...he's a sellout who just runs in front of people and falls down anywhere on the court.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=nycelt84]No need to hate he gave the Celtics 5 good years and moved on. I appreciate what he did for the Celtics franchise no matter what jersey he may wear in the future except if it is a Laker jersey.[/QUOTE]
+1 Exactly.
Ray deserves a lot of credit and respect for what he has done during his time in Boston. He put his ego aside and accepted the concept and helped bring home another banner. Boston fans who hate on Ray are stupid except in the case of helping the Lakers (Satan's Team).
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Since he's already won a title then I'd be taking the $ and staying with the Celtics.
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[QUOTE=Rolando]+1 Exactly.
Boston fans who hate on Ray are stupid except in the case of helping the Lakers (Satan's Team).[/QUOTE]
Such a contradicting post
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
:oldlol: You must have missed the Memo, Miami is definitely Satan's team now.
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[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]Such a contradicting post
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
:oldlol: You must have missed the Memo, Miami is definitely Satan's team now.[/QUOTE]
Speaking as a lifelong Boston fan, Miami is nothing compared to the Lakers.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
people seem to think that the whole world watches basketball.
sure theres a lot of people who will care (mainly celtics fans, and fair enuf) but at the end of the day who gives a fk.
alot of you guys act like 14 girls with all the gossiping you do, its hilarious
and as for the guy saying look at mike miller, battier, jones etc now that they joined the heat?
umm they all have a championship ring and got the opportunity to play their choosen sport at the highest level with some of the best in the game.
none of them want out of it
battier is throwing opening pitches at mlb games and will forever be known as a winner (both ncaa and nba titles). he also said he got more criticism at duke lol
allen will do whatever is best for him and their will be a big commotion about it for a day then people will move on
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Miami won't get Allen :lol .. The'll get Rashard Lewis and maybe Camby if they are lucky.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Wait so choosing to stay based on money is more noble than leaving based on basketball... Right.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Quickening]Wait so choosing to stay based on money is more noble than leaving based on basketball... Right.[/QUOTE]
Lets be real though. He's staying with a good team, he'll stay with his boys KG and Pierce, with a team that just added some good pieces, with a team that will add some players else with them still having the midlevel to offer another player and the rights to Jeff Green. And on top of all of that, he'll get way more paid.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Nash]Lets be real though. He's staying with a good team, he'll stay with his boys KG and Pierce, with a team that just added some good pieces, with a team that will add some players else with them still having the midlevel to offer another player and the rights to Jeff Green. And on top of all of that, he'll get way more paid.[/QUOTE]
So he would primarily be staying for more money... and some people are acting like this makes him a martar... as opposed to leaving for basketball reasons.. since when does greed for money> grred for championships.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Barkley went to Houston. Malone went to LA. So what if an over-the-hill superstar wants to chase?
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Nash]Lets be real though. He's staying with a good team, he'll stay with his boys KG and Pierce, with a team that just added some good pieces, with a team that will add some players else with them still having the midlevel to offer another player and the rights to Jeff Green. And on top of all of that, he'll get way more paid.[/QUOTE]
He's staying with a team that should have been 2nd round playoff fodder and will only be worse next season. This team that's assembled will only go the route its previous big-3 did. Bird and McHale were miserable their last 3 seasons when age and injuries relegated them to losing to the likes of the Knicks (1st round), Pistons, and Cavs (2nd round). There's nothing "noble" about staying or going. The guy has already played for 3 teams in his career. At this point, he needs to decide what matters more: money, ring chasing, and/or having fun.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
if he leaves money on the table to go to Miami he will get roasted
if he takes the money and goes back to Boston he will get roasted
Shuttlesworth will get dealt by Ainge soon enough, thats why Ainge is now saying how bad they want him back, hadn't heard that the entire year. He just wants to trade Allen since he hasn't been able to the past 3 years. Ainge always gets it done, he swung and missed 3 years running, it won't be a 4th
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
I heard there are serious issues between Rondo and Ray Allen. This may be something which has him leaning towards leaving.
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No hate at all. If Paul Pierce dipped from Boston to join a rival then I can see the hate, but Ray Allen? That's stupid.
If people hate on him for that, it's not because they don't like Ray Allen, it's because they hate Lebron and don't want his team getting better.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
I doubt that Ray-Ray receives any major backlash if he joins the Heat. I am sure that there will be some minor heat..no pun intended placed on him for his choice. But Ray has been pretty clean his whole career, he gets a free pass and I doubt that he receives a lot of backlash.
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[QUOTE=LakersReign]A lot of people will lose respect for him cuz it'll make it look like he's lowering himself to being a "ring chaser." The same way Shaq did when he signed in Cleveland and then Boston.[/QUOTE]
yep basically.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Hes 37 years old, what else do you expect?
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
seems unlikely he goes back to Boston at this point (he'd be redundant assuming the Terry signing goes through)
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]Hes 37 years old, what else do you expect?[/QUOTE]
Character doesn't die with age. Ray Allen has great character. His character spells Boston Celtic. It'd be awful to watch him suddenly start dancing around during pregame warmups in a Heat uniform.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
I highly doubt he receives any public backlash if he signs with Miami. He's too well respected and classy. I'm getting sick of people claiming the Heat to be a team full of cocky ass holes who don't take the game seriously and dance around during pregame warmups.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Crown&Coke]if he leaves money on the table to go to Miami he will get roasted
if he takes the money and goes back to Boston he will get roasted[/QUOTE]
He won't get roasted for taking less money, it would be for ring chasing with a rival team.
If he stays in Boston why would anyone roast him? He's lived there and played there for 5 years. Must take a real scumbag to stay on a team with his friends and make money, and contend!
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
I am a huge fan of Ray but still I will be mad if he chooses Miami ahead of Boston.
He has a family here and he already mentioned he hates moving with the family, his son is receiving treatment here, he will get twice the offer than in Miami, he will probably have more minutes playing with Cs than with the Heat!
If he joins our biggest rival(right now), I will lose respect for him