[QUOTE=StacksOnDeck]What's with all this talk about Bynum leaving? There's no chance Bynum would leave if he was traded to any team. Do you know how much money he stands to lose if he leaves?[/QUOTE]
How much did Bron, Bosh lose?
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[QUOTE=StacksOnDeck]What's with all this talk about Bynum leaving? There's no chance Bynum would leave if he was traded to any team. Do you know how much money he stands to lose if he leaves?[/QUOTE]
How much did Bron, Bosh lose?
Bynum was a great trade. He'll definitely add that outside shooting that Philly lacks.
[QUOTE=Mr. I'm So Rad]Bynum was a great trade. He'll definitely add that outside shooting that Philly lacks.[/QUOTE]
they got jason richardson in the trade . . .
[QUOTE=GOBB]How much did Bron, Bosh lose?[/QUOTE]
Bosh and Bron were going into a situation where they finally wanted to win a championship, so they were willing to make that sacrifice. Bynum on the other hand won two championships with the lakers; And now he's looking to be individually dominant, be the #1 option, and get paid.
[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]thats why fcukings cavs are right where they are suppose to be....nobody reported they wanted both 4th picks TT and Waiters....
the deal was Zeller/TT and Varejao for sal purpose....
good luck in lottery...Waiters has bust written all over him just like TT...TT is going to be in same boat as Tyrus Thomas....
Bynum with Irving would be unstoppable next year or 2...but please continue with the rebuilding process where you wont trade proves 2nd best center in the league for draft prospects[/QUOTE]
trading them would never have been a probly if we knew bynum would commit. why rebuild, then trade your rebuilding pieces for bynum only to watch him leave and have to rebuild again.
if he'd said he'd resign then sure trade for him.
funny how people lable thompson a bust when in ford's redraft kyrie and thompson went one and two.
also funny how most people on ish lable waiters a bust after never seeing game, and most except rating that as a very good pick.
[QUOTE=Yung D-Will]Bosh and Bron were going into a situation where they finally wanted to win a championship, so they were willing to make that sacrifice. Bynum on the other hand won two championships with the lakers; And now he's looking to be individually dominant, be the #1 option, and get paid.[/QUOTE]
do you know how a sign and trade works?
[QUOTE=LBJMVP]do you know how a sign and trade works?[/QUOTE]
I was under the impression that if they had just signed, they could have easily gotten more money.
[QUOTE=LBJMVP]funny how people lable thompson a bust when in ford's redraft kyrie and thompson went one and two.[/QUOTE]
it was thorpes redraft that thompson went 2
[QUOTE=Mr. I'm So Rad]Bynum was a great trade. He'll definitely add that outside shooting that Philly lacks.[/QUOTE]
3 new additions...
Dorell Wright last 2 seasons shot 3&% (6 3pta) and 37% (5 3pta).
Nick Young is a career 38% 3pt, shot 37% last season
Jason Richardson whom they aquired with Bynum is a career 37% 3pt shooter
Now what
[QUOTE=Yung D-Will]I was under the impression that if they had just signed they could have easily gotten more money.[/QUOTE]
they sign with their original team and get all the money they would have gotten.... then said team trades that player to whatever team the player committed to in free agency.
this way the other team gets something in return like draft picks.
i think thats how it works.
we signed and traded lebron, but he didnt take the max anyway because miami wouldn't have been able to afford it.
i may be wrong.
[QUOTE=chips93]it was thorpes redraft that thompson went 2[/QUOTE]
thats right.
[QUOTE=LBJMVP]trading them would never have been a probly if we knew bynum would commit. why rebuild, then trade your rebuilding pieces for bynum only to watch him leave and have to rebuild again.
if he'd said he'd resign then sure trade for him.
funny how people lable thompson a bust when in ford's redraft kyrie and thompson went one and two.
also funny how most people on ish lable waiters a bust after never seeing game, and most except rating that as a very good pick.[/QUOTE]
He's an idiot. Thompson isnt a bust. Thorpe could have redid the draft and had him go 15. Way too premature to write off Thompson when anyone who watched him in college knew he had areas of his game to improve upon. Wouldnt happen over night. He doesnt know what he talks about.
fwiw, coach scott said that thompson has been the most improved player over the summer, working hard on developing a face-up jumper
although we didnt see much of it in vegas
i just wanna see him try some things out there, and not be afraid to fail.
tbh the cavs are a hard team to read.
they've drafted 3 players in 2 years on sheer potential. it'll be a couple of years at least before we can really judge that squad.
[QUOTE=GOBB]3 new additions...
Dorell Wright last 2 seasons shot 3&% (6 3pta) and 37% (5 3pta).
Nick Young is a career 38% 3pt, shot 37% last season
Jason Richardson whom they aquired with Bynum is a career 37% 3pt shooter
Now what[/QUOTE]
this.
If Bynum can be more successful passing out of doubles earlier, this is a very dangerous team.
sixers had arguably the best 2nd unit in the East last year, definitely best in the atlantic. they could easily be the best 2nd unit this year, they just have to commit to Doug Collins' style of play and not worry about who gets the shots on what night
[QUOTE=LBJMVP]trading them would never have been a probly if we knew bynum would commit. why rebuild, then trade your rebuilding pieces for bynum only to watch him leave and have to rebuild again.
if he'd said he'd resign then sure trade for him.
funny how people lable thompson a bust when in ford's redraft kyrie and thompson went one and two.
also funny how most people on ish lable waiters a bust after never seeing game, and most except rating that as a very good pick.[/QUOTE]
did Bynum commit to philly??? no
did deron williams commit to Nets??? he talked to Nets, Mavs & then signed with the nets
the fact is....if you get a player like bynum for unproven quantities like TT and waiters...u go ahead and do that...
Bynum would not turn down and opportunity to play with a upcoming star pg in Irving and the maxed 5th yr...just no way....
sometimes u have to roll the dice....
[QUOTE=GOBB]He's an idiot. Thompson isnt a bust. Thorpe could have redid the draft and had him go 15. Way too premature to write off Thompson when anyone who watched him in college knew he had areas of his game to improve upon. Wouldnt happen over night. He doesnt know what he talks about.[/QUOTE]
fcuk off GOBB I owe you like my little B!tch...in past few conversations....you dont even know what i was saying....try to comprehend 1st before calling somebody idiot...
dont bother replying cause I am not going to waste my time arguing with a dumb fcuk like u
[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]fcuk off GOBB I owe you like my little B!tch...in past few conversations....you dont even know what i was saying....try to comprehend 1st before calling somebody idiot...
dont bother replying cause I am not going to waste my time arguing with a dumb fcuk like u[/QUOTE]
You said Waiters has bust written all over him yet never explain why. You compare Thompson to Tyrus Thomas. Why? Because both have TT initials? Because nbadraft.net compared them? You cant explain the crap you type.
Idiot.
[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]did Bynum commit to philly??? no
did deron williams commit to Nets??? he talked to Nets, Mavs & then signed with the nets
the fact is....if you get a player like bynum for unproven quantities like TT and waiters...u go ahead and do that...
Bynum would not turn down and opportunity to play with a upcoming star pg in Irving and the maxed 5th yr...just no way....
sometimes u have to roll the dice....[/QUOTE]
we weren't in a posistion to risk all of our assets except irving for what could be a 1 year rental.
i feel very good with the decision we made. i wish we did get bynum, but im not the least bit upset we didnt.
I think this team is getting a bit overrated. Hawes is going to make them have a slow front court. And as of right now Turner has to prove himself. Big Bynum and Holiday fan though.
[QUOTE=LBJMVP]we weren't in a posistion to risk all of our assets except irving for what could be a 1 year rental.
i feel very good with the decision we made. i wish we did get bynum, but im not the least bit upset we didnt.[/QUOTE]
what assets dude??? u guys have like 6-8 1st round picks in next couple of yrs
just dump them on magic...
[QUOTE=Nets fan 93]I think this team is getting a bit overrated. [B]Hawes is going to make them have a slow front court[/B]. And as of right now Turner has to prove himself. Big Bynum and Holiday fan though.[/QUOTE]
as opposed to elton brand at the 4?
this team's style of play doesn't really need turner to "prove himself" as long as he plays good enough defense their wings can score by committee and they'll be pretty good tbh
i think Holiday and Bynum will be an awesome combination though
[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]what assets dude??? u guys have like 6-8 1st round picks in next couple of yrs
just dump them on magic...[/QUOTE]
than if bynum leaves we have no draft picks to rebuild with and we are a place that attracts free agents... plus loose the the players we drafted to rebuild with.
why risk that for what could be a one year rental.
[QUOTE=Burgz V2]as opposed to elton brand at the 4?
this team's style of play doesn't really need turner to "prove himself" as long as he plays good enough defense their wings can score by committee and they'll be pretty good tbh
i think Holiday and Bynum will be an awesome combination though[/QUOTE]
Will that kind of system win them playoff games?
[QUOTE=Nets fan 93]Will that kind of system win them playoff games?[/QUOTE]
honestly? it might get them deep, or it might crash and fail miserably and cost Doug Collins his job. once it's the ECF it all comes down to who can take their guy one on one. Which is why Bynum is the key and the major difference from last year.
Collins is very old school, very grind it out, he likes to push the ball off turnovers and he doesnt like to call a lot of set plays. last year it was brutal to watch because they didnt have a guy they could throw it to in the post to open up the three point line. This year that could be totally different
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GOBB's right.
That front court is HUGE. Two 7'1 players.
But somebody mentioned it earlier, i'd much rather have it like this. I'm assuming they want to bring in Thad for bench production though.
Jrue Holiday/Royal Ivey
Evan Turner/Jason Richardson
Dorrell Wright/Nick Young
Thaddeus Young/Arnett Moultrie/Lavoy Allen
Andrew Bynum/Spencer Hawes/Kwama Brown
These guys go 10 deep. Definitely a team to look out for.
use to love watching Miller and Iggy fastbreak on teams as underdogs and upsetting constantly
definitely will tune in to some Sixer games this season
Good for 8 seed.. Without Kobe, Bynum will be expose big time next season..
[QUOTE=Dr. Cheesesteak]Yeah, usually adding an overrated 19ppg SG and a 18/8 C while losing most of your bench depth takes you from worst to first in a division that had 3 playoff teams the year before.
However, i do agree Atlantic is stacked. Toughest division in the league now, imo.[/QUOTE]
They lost bench depth? How exactly did they lose bench depth? Sundiata Gaines, Johan Petro, Sheldon Williams, Deshawn Stevenson, Jordan Farmar and Jordan Williams is bench depth? They improved their bench. CJ Watson, Mirza Teletovic, Marshon Brooks, Tyshawn Taylor, Toko Shengalia, Reggie Evans, Al Thornton and Jerry Stackhouse is a much better bench than they had last year. And yes, adding Joe Johnson (Who was forced to be the #1 option on offense in Atlanta, who will now be the #2 or 3 option on the Nets), and adding a healthy Brook Lopez who won't be double and triple teamed every night most certainly could turn them into the #1 seed in the Atlantic. Don't forget that Gerald Wallace only played 15 games for the Nets last year, and D-Will, Wallace and Lopez didn't play one game together last season. The Nets are going to have a lethal scoring punch off the bench with Brooks and Teletovic.
There's also a good chance Bynum gets exposed next season. No more Kobe and Gasol to take the pressure off of him anymore. I expect him to crack under pressure as the #1 option being double and triple teamed nightly. And Spencer Hawes is slow and un-athletic as $hit. He's a poor mans Gary Bradley.
Call me crazy but with the addition of Bynum I think Sixers have a shot at HCA. A 4 seed wouldn't surprise me at all, especially with Bulls being crippled for now. I think the top 3 will be Heat, Celtics and Pacers. Then Sixers, Nets and Knicks will fight for the 4-6 seeds. 7 and 8 is pretty up in the air though I'd like to say Cavs and Wizards.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Call me crazy but with the addition of Bynum I think Sixers have a shot at HCA. A 4 seed wouldn't surprise me at all, especially with Bulls being crippled for now. I think the top 3 will be Heat, Celtics and Pacers. Then Sixers, Nets and Knicks will fight for the 4-6 seeds. 7 and 8 is pretty up in the air though I'd like to say Cavs and Wizards.[/QUOTE]
I'd say they do also. They're a complete team now, with some depth and coaching and finally a legit number 1 option in Bynum. But, I'm not really sold on how great a number 1 option Bynum is, he should be a number 2 guy. I'd say this team is dangerous, but probably finishes at 6.
Also, I think the Pacers will be right there competing with them for that spot. I like Indy, but that team will absolutely not be the 2nd seed in the East as some project, and I doubt they finish with 4th best record in the East (though they will win division). Boston and New York have similar depth to a team like Indy, but actual high end talent/ stars.
They should try to trade J-Rich for a true starting SF
Turner/Young
?/Wright
Bynum is going to have a monster year next season. What a incredible pickup. You have the best big man in the East and one of the very few legitimate post presences. They have some guys who can space the floor which will open up the lane for him. Defensively they will be much better too. Doug Collins is a good coach for him.
I wonder if the Sixers will regret drafting Evan Turner.
They could've had Greg Monroe alongside Bynum for instance, which may have been a a blueprint for a championship team.
As they are they're a few pieces away from true contention.
[QUOTE=BoutPractice]I wonder if the Sixers will regret drafting Evan Turner.
They could've had Greg Monroe alongside Bynum for instance, which may have been a a blueprint for a championship team.
As they are they're a few pieces away from true contention.[/QUOTE]
Turner will put up good numbers next season. Evan will probably not live up to his hype but he will become a solid starter in the NBA. (16-17 ppg in his best statistical season).
Guess I'm the only one who doesn't like the team composition? I'm interested to see how much Collins runs the offense through Bynum. Sixers won games last year by playing unselfish, team ball (I believe one of the top APG teams). That's no exactly Bynums specialty.
[QUOTE=bdreason]Guess I'm the only one who doesn't like the team composition? I'm interested to see how much Collins runs the offense through Bynum. Sixers won games last year by playing unselfish, team ball (I believe one of the top APG teams). That's no exactly Bynums specialty.[/QUOTE]
well, he has to get better. he's going to be in a situation where he's forced to. it's not like the guy is incapable of passing. he just needs to recognize doubles better and not be stubborn or whatever. it's a process but if he gets that down and stays healthy, it's going to be a huge boost for that team. they were sort of transitioning towards more halfcourt offense anyway. with iggy and williams gone, that's going to be even more the case....
[QUOTE=bdreason]Guess I'm the only one who doesn't like the team composition? I'm interested to see how much Collins runs the offense through Bynum. Sixers won games last year by playing unselfish, team ball (I believe one of the top APG teams). That's no exactly Bynums specialty.[/QUOTE]
the sixers won games last year because they were elite defensively. their offense was terrible
[QUOTE=chips93]the sixers won games last year because they were elite defensively. their offense was terrible[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Their offense was their defense (transition buckets). Halfcourt? I wanted to cry watching them.