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Wilt Chamberlain
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Magic.
If he isn' #1 or #2 then Magic Johnson is #3.
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It's also between Magic or Bill for me. Then maybe Wilt should round up the top 5.
Bill Russell.
Wilt
I will go with Magic Johnson
The way I look at it is if you are going to rank Basketball players, you need to do so based on three things:
1. Rings (A single player in BBall can be the difference between a ring or not)
2. Personal Stats
3. Impact on the game (changes in officiating rules, being emulated by younger players, etc.)
It is clear that Magic, Wilt and Russell should all be considered for the Top 3 slot. Russell and Magic have Wilt beat on the ring counter front. However, Wilt and Magic have Russell beat on the personal stats front. Finally, Magic and Wilt have Russell beat on the impact on the game front.
From the above, it is quite clear that Russell is last on my list out of the three. He has not had a lasting impact on the game. His personal stats are not very impressive and he won in a weaker era. Magic edges out Wilt because he has had a longer lasting impact on the game of basketball (no look passes, point forwards, PG playing multiple positions, Showtime, etc.) and won more rings. While Wilt had more stellar personal achievements in scoring and rebounding, the Magic man was no slouch himself. So, I have to go with Magic. The way I see it:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Bill Russell
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Again, I fail to see how Magic has a legitimate argument to be this high, but that's just me.
WALLAH! MAGIC :pimp:
Bill Russell
Magic.
Bill Russell. Magic wasn't better than Bird in my eyes.
[QUOTE]Magic and Wilt have Russell beat on the impact on the game front.
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Nah. Russell is pretty much the reason teams started trying to win with defense. Magic had a popularity impact and some bigger players wanted to handle the ball and all but his impact cant really match Russell.
Wilt had the greatest impact on the way the rules are now considering hes the reason for offensive goaltending, not jumping at the Ft line, the lane being made wider, not being able to inbound the ball over the backboard and all that.
But far as how teams went about winning? What was considered defense? Before Bill Russell bigmen were taught to never leave the floor so they could react quickly and not be stuck in the air. Bill started jumping to block shots and was told to stop before people noticed the other teams were scoring 40-50 points when he was in college.
Bill literally changed the game.
Oh and I love magic....not like. Love. One of my favorite players in the history of sports. All sports.
But I remember the mid to late 80s/early 90s...
Lerry Bird was considered better than him. Even when people point to Magics best yearsl ike "This is when it became Magics time...." people still had Bird as the best. Then MJ.
Im sure someone felt Magic was best. But its like how some consider Durant and Kobe the best now.
Larry was Lebron of the 80s far as widespread belief that hes #1.
Jerry Sloan had him as the GOAT in his second season. Larry was so respected its hard to explain it with a modern player.
The idea that Magic was better than him really gained steam online. That wasnt what people thought at the time.
Same vote as last time, Bill Russell.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Oh and I love magic....not like. Love. One of my favorite players in the history of sports. All sports.
But I remember the mid to late 80s/early 90s...
Lerry Bird was considered better than him. Even when people point to Magics best yearsl ike "This is when it became Magics time...." people still had Bird as the best. Then MJ.
Im sure someone felt Magic was best. But its like how some consider Durant and Kobe the best now.
Larry was Lebron of the 80s far as widespread belief that hes #1.
Jerry Sloan had him as the GOAT in his second season. Larry was so respected its hard to explain it with a modern player.
The idea that Magic was better than him really gained steam online. That wasnt what people thought at the time.[/QUOTE]
And u dont think the fact bird was white had anything to do with people 'believing' he was better :rolleyes:
The f-ggot with HIV. Magic:pimp:
[QUOTE=lakersfan2046]I will go with Magic Johnson
The way I look at it is if you are going to rank Basketball players, you need to do so based on three things:
[B][U]1. Rings (A single player in BBall can be the difference between a ring or not)[/U][/B]
2. Personal Stats
3. Impact on the game (changes in officiating rules, being emulated by younger players, etc.)
It is clear that Magic, Wilt and Russell should all be considered for the Top 3 slot. Russell and Magic have Wilt beat on the ring counter front. However, Wilt and Magic have Russell beat on the personal stats front. Finally, Magic and Wilt have Russell beat on the impact on the game front.
From the above, it is quite clear that Russell is last on my list out of the three. He has not had a lasting impact on the game. His personal stats are not very impressive and he won in a weaker era. Magic edges out Wilt because he has had a longer lasting impact on the game of basketball (no look passes, point forwards, PG playing multiple positions, Showtime, etc.) and won more rings. While Wilt had more stellar personal achievements in scoring and rebounding, the Magic man was no slouch himself. So, I have to go with Magic. The way I see it:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Bill Russell[/QUOTE]
Only if he has the required supporting cast to work with around him....
To value a players individual career with this team accomplishment being the biggest and in some cases the only priority and totally discredit what the player did with what he had to work with around him (win or lose) is unfair, simpleminded and just stupid.... this is not tennis for gods sake...
[QUOTE=Doctor K]And u dont think the fact bird was white had anything to do with people 'believing' he was better :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Especially when it was mostly a old white media that was saying this
#3 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops Voting
37- Bill Russell
27- Magic Johnson
14- Wilt Chamberlain
2- Larry Bird
1- Kobe Bryant
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]#3 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops Voting
36- Bill Russell
26- Magic Johnson
14- Wilt Chamberlain
2- Larry Bird
1- Kobe Bryant[/QUOTE]
It's pretty clear how 4 and 5 will be voted.
1 MJ
2 Jabbar
3 Russell
4 Magic
5 Wilt
Can't really complain with that top 5, but I put them in a different order.
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell.