10 seconds left, tied up, ball in Jordans hands. Who do you chose to defend him?

[QUOTE=TheMan]OTOH, Kobe takes "ill advised shots" no matter who's on him:lol

the second bolded part is just a retarded kobe stan spewing his usual ignorant crap:facepalm ,congrats idiot.[/QUOTE]


jordan didn't think they were ill advised shots when he ws sittin on the bench crying atfer Kobe dropped 55 on him..

did he?


did he?


ay my name...say my name!




back in my pocket kid..

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Stupid kids know your history!!![/QUOTE]
It's not like Dumars locked down Jordan, MJ still put up big numbers against the Pistons, it was more like the young Bulls not being ready to knock down Detroit...

[QUOTE=tmacattack33]Pippen had similar length actually.[/QUOTE]
7-2 wingpsan on a 6-7.5 frame

vs

7-4.75 wingspan on a 6-9 frame...

Those are their measurements. Pippen was long, but Durant is significantly longer.

[QUOTE=TheMan]It's not like Dumars locked down Jordan, MJ still put up big numbers against the Pistons, it was more like the young Bulls not being ready to knock down Detroit...[/QUOTE]


you mean ballhogging / shot jacking your way to a lost...

Mj was shooting like 28 - 30 times a game....Detrit would merk though..

How can anyone say Kobe lol. He let Gilbert score 60 on him.

[QUOTE=tmacattack33]Yet Rose himself said "It's pretty hard for me when I'm being guarded by a guy who is 6 inches taller than me yet can keep up with my every move" (not the exact quote, but it was similar).[/QUOTE]
Yet LBJ himself has said that no one stops Rose, it takes a team effort...not the exact quote but something to those lines...

Payton and Pippen

If Tony Allen isn't biting on fakes that day, he'd be my choice for a current defender. LeBron's gotta be up there too.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Prime Kobe could stay in front of him...[B]Kobe's longer arms[/B] would make MJ miss the pull up.[/QUOTE]
... both have a similar wingspan but technicaly MJ's were measured at 6'11.25 and Kobe's "just" 6'11... I'm sure MJ was defended by players with arms longer than that too. You can't defend a prime MJ any more than you can defend a prime Kobe - good scorers will score regardless of defense.

Choices you can't go wrong with:

- Scottie Pippen (one of the most versatile defenders of all-time, one of the best man-to-man of all time (imo the best) )

- Prime Rodman (severely underrated on this site as a defender, in the Bad Boy days would run guys into the dirt when playing man to man. And the guy could get into nearly anyone's head. MJ while mentally strong could even be suceptible to the Rodman Mind Game lol)

- Ron Artest (extremely gritty, physical defender. Would try to stick to MJ at all times, and is another player that loves to get into the head of the offensive player. Great choice.)

- 2000 Kobe Bryant (all jokes aside, Kobe in 2000 was one of the greatest man-to-man defenders i've ever seen. Extremely great defender with amazing lateral quickness and energy, brilliant defensive instinct. Due to Kobe's competitive nature, he would attempt to completely shut MJ down and would be a brilliant choice to defend Jordan)

EDIT: Dumars was also a good choice guys. Strong hands and great lateral quickness as-well. Put up as a good a defensive effort against Michael as anyone.

[QUOTE=Smoke117]That whole shit is a myth. I dislike MJ more than anyone, but frankly Payton didn't even defend MJ the first couple of games. He started out on Pippen who was ailing from various injuries [B]and wasn't moved onto Jordan till they were down 0-2 or 0-3.[/B] He didn't hold Jordan to anything either, Jordan was just missing shots he usually makes. Go watch that series again and it's clear as day that Gary Payton was not containing anyone, but Michael Jordan was just missing shots he would usually make.[/QUOTE]

Well that actually makes it more impressive than. Because MJ (at least statistically) played worse in the last 3 games of the series than the first 3. And games 4 and games 6 were his worst games.

I did watch a youtube video of a lot of Jordan's shots just now, and he was getting guarded by Hawkins a lot, so you may be correct.

The idiot strikes again...

Jordan was out of his prime against a youngster, is it so hard to understand? Kobe is getting further away from his prime the longer he plays, the moment some young upstart drops 40 on Kobe, I'll be here claiming young upstart>Kobe, I'll be taking a page from your retarded playbook:roll:

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]jordan didn't think they were ill advised shots when he ws sittin on the bench crying atfer Kobe dropped 55 on him..

did he?


did he?


ay my name...say my name!




back in my pocket kid..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheMan]The idiot strikes again...

Jordan was out of his prime against a youngster, is it so hard to understand? Kobe is getting further away from his prime the longer he plays, the moment some young upstart drops 40 on Kobe, I'll be here claiming young upstart>Kobe, I'll be taking a page from your retarded playbook:roll:[/QUOTE]
U mean like how Kobe disrespected Lin "who?" in the locker room, so Lin raped him for 38 points? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]U mean like how Kobe disrespected Lin "who?" in the locker room, so Lin raped him for 38 points? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Lin>Kobe:lol

Prime Bruce Bowen.

Pippen

Bruce Bowen

Dumars

Michael Cooper

Rodman

LeBron

"Ball in Jordan hands"...put The Glove on him.

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You reach, I teach:bowdown:

Honestly? Cover him with my two best wing defenders and let a role player shoot it and hope they miss. Still a better chance that we win that way, Steve Kerr notwithstanding.

Pippen and Gary Payton.

Triple team of: Rodman/Oakley/Cooper

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You reach, I teach:bowdown:[/QUOTE]

Payton's playing him right. Cut off the right, play him horizontally, keep a strong base, extend frame on left and right to create one man traps, stay low to the ground until necessary, close in on him, deny him the room to operate and keep him out of the post.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Judging by watching tapes of teenage Kobe vs Prime MJ...and Young Kobe vs old MJ...


no doubt Prime Kobe would be able to guard MJ.

Kobe had the foot speed/desire to make MJ take a ill advised shot.

and on the other side...no way MJ could guard Prime Kobe....Kobe by basically anything he wants.[/QUOTE]
When did Kobe face prime Mj? Kobe wasn't around 88-93 when Mj was in his prime

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]you mean ballhogging / shot jacking your way to a lost...

Mj was shooting like 28 - 30 times a game....Detrit would merk though..[/QUOTE]
Mj shitted on Dumars so bad they created the Jordan rules. After Mj had back to back 50+ points the made it. Let's get something straight Detroit can't guard Mj one on one especially 88-90 Mj who could run all day. Watch this video n look at the doubles n triple teams from the Pacers [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOS1qNTWb70&context=C4444d98ADvjVQa1PpcFM6hw86OyCEXwyVkWT8kCi102E8KxNc8zE=[/url] lol at guarding prime Mj with one person

Depends what team Jordan is playing on - real teams or some fantasy stuff? If it's the 2nd 3peat Bulls I'd double off Rodman. Leave the Center on Longley and hope he's quick enough to challenge Rodman if he gets an easy opportunity at the basket.

I'd try to get Jordan to pass the ball to an open teammate that hasn't got a good FT% and foul immediately if there's no more foul to give.

I'd put Kobe or Wade on Jordan and Grant(whatever PF is on the Lakerssquad, doesn't matter) or Bosh as a doubleteam. Although they're slower than Jordan they'd be there to consumate space and bait Jordan into passing to the open man.

I'd really try to get a last shot and rather go down by one, than gamble on Jordan himself and lose without a chance to tie/win.

...and I know that this has been tried and Kerr/Paxson hit the gws, but it#s stupid to double off spot up shooter.

[QUOTE=Poetry]Payton's playing him right. Cut off the right, play him horizontally, keep a strong base, extend frame on left and right to create one man traps, stay low to the ground until necessary, close in on him, deny him the room to operate and keep him out of the post.[/QUOTE]

GP had mind control over MJ.

-Smak

[QUOTE=Overdrive]Depends what team Jordan is playing on - real teams or some fantasy stuff? If it's the 2nd 3peat Bulls I'd double off Rodman. Leave the Center on Longley and hope he's quick enough to challenge Rodman if he gets an easy opportunity at the basket.
[B]The Sonics tried that in 96. He set a record for offensive rebounds in a game. Twice.[/B]


I'd try to get Jordan to pass the ball to an open teammate that hasn't got a good FT% and foul immediately if there's no more foul to give.
[B]So now youre team is in the penaly for long stretches of the game and you have players in fould trouble. [/B]

I'd put Kobe or Wade on Jordan and Grant(whatever PF is on the Lakerssquad, doesn't matter) or Bosh as a doubleteam. Although they're slower than Jordan they'd be there to consumate space and bait Jordan into passing to the open man.
[B]The lakers tried that in 91. The result is Jorddan found Paxson wide open time after time.[/B]


I'd really try to get a last shot and rather go down by one, than gamble on Jordan himself and lose without a chance to tie/win.
[B]If Jordan has the ball in a tie game with 17 seconds on the clock, you aint getting it back.[/B]

...and I know that this has been tried and Kerr/Paxson hit the gws, but it#s stupid to double off spot up shooter.
[B]Magic thought it made sense lol[/B]
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The only two players capable of contesting Jordan were Pippen and Rodman. You gotta throw Dumars in there cuz Jordan said he was his toughest defender. But he did have a lot of help.

James doesnt have the lateral quickness

Cooper would get posted up. Too skinny.

Bryant aint good enough

Julius

Can I choose a bookie with proof that Jordan put 10,000,000 on losing the game?

[QUOTE=bballnoob1192]yep kobe might not be the best defender all game but in any single possession that he puts every ounce of effort into he will make his opposing player look like a scrub

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4[/url]

many people use this video to support kobe as good defender, but got to say its those dedicated single possession of intense defense that gives him the edge in this kind of situation.[/QUOTE]
Funny thing is Kobe did this in 2007-2008 when Wade had 1000 injuries and could barely walk.

Next year they met up Wade was healthy and he dropped 35 and 28 on Kobe limiting Kobe to 27 and 19 points respectively.

[quote]Rodman (Detroit)[/quote]

In a 1 on 1 situation Dennis was about as good as it got, however even he has some problems. The proper answer for this thread is the team defense. Send a [B]hard[/B] double and take the ball out of his hands. When you send a soft double with little interior defense, [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9uhgkT9S9s#t=1h49m35s"]this may happen[/URL]. :no:


[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw6j1O8_naI#t=8m56s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw6j1O8_naI#t=8m56s[/URL]


[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4ZlHwMstDc#t=45s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4ZlHwMstDc#t=45s[/URL]

Individually I'd choose prime Pip, Payton or Bowen.

In reality, only a double or triple team trap can stop him. :rockon:

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]lol lebron is not as good a 1 on 1 defender as kobe ( when he wants to go 100% )
[B]
lebron just does chase down blocks and passing lane steals[/B]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4[/url][/QUOTE]


Dude you really believe that

A team of payton, coop/joe d, pip, rodman and hakeem and it's game over for MJ :lol

[QUOTE=Poetry]Payton's playing him right. Cut off the right, play him horizontally, keep a strong base, extend frame on left and right to create one man traps, stay low to the ground until necessary, close in on him, deny him the room to operate and keep him out of the post.[/QUOTE]

all mj has to do is pivot and get into the triple threat unless he picked up his dribble.

Or he can get flashy and put the ball on the floor behind paytons back and pull one of those and 1 moves.

Paytons more like a pesty player. Nothing he can do to stop mj especially when mj is the bigger dude.

[QUOTE=scandisk_]A team of payton, coop/joe d, pip, rodman and hakeem and it's game over for MJ :lol[/QUOTE]

Payton + Cooper +Pippen + Rodman + Hakeem > Jordan

(when healthy)

Kobe will steal the ball and will make a buzzer beater winning shots that will send Jordan into retirement.. Then Kobe will become the goat and Jordan will be known as bonafide choker..

[QUOTE=KOBE143]I'd pay big money to suck Kobe DA GAWD off. MMM BOY! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: [/QUOTE]
:wtf: :biggums: :bowdown:

the only people saying LeBron or Wade are Lebron Stan's and Heat bandwagoners. :oldlol:

only reasonable answers are the Glove and Pip. I'd also throw in a pre-injury Grant Hill in there as well.

Sefelosha :coleman:

prime Kobe. gg Bulls. better luck next time.

Kobe for me

I dont think he will allow his team to lose, then again, neither would MJ