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[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]
I've considered adding defensive plays to the list, but I don't know how many of them have been out there this season so far.[/QUOTE]
That's be hard to keep track off. Because steals, rebounds and defensive stops happen all the time so you don't know what.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I've never heard or read that actually being the traditional definition, but I wouldn't disagree with that. I've read that if it's 24 seconds or less, it's game winning, but I also consider shots made before that timeline (and if a team does not tie) as just as much a game winner.
The fact that the Cavs did not tie the game and the Allen made the shot at the 18.2 second mark makes it more than a valid game winner.
The free throw Allen made just adds to the lead itself. It doesn't take away that he also made a game winner and the Cavs didn't tie.
[B]I've considered adding defensive plays to the list, but I don't know how many of them have been out there this season so far.[/B][/QUOTE]
Just remember the clutch block by wade in your heart and tell your grand kids about the greatest shot blocking guard to play the game.
[QUOTE=pauk]Yea, that is just to rare...
Plus you can have a gamewinning rebound, steal, forced turnover, shut down defense etc... :P[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]That's be hard to keep track off. Because steals, rebounds and defensive stops happen all the time so you don't know what.[/QUOTE]
True.
There's just so many scenarios. I wish it were possible to keep track off.
[QUOTE=AlonzoGOAT]Just remember the clutch block by wade in your heart and tell your grand kids about the greatest shot blocking guard to play the game.[/QUOTE]
Will do.
:cheers:
Ekpe Udoh i guess made a gamewinning layup with 57 seconds left since nobody scored afterwards (Doron Lamb assists); 93-92 Bucks Win vs Bulls
you havent updated rays shot yet on the list :D
[QUOTE=Boston C's]you havent updated rays shot yet on the list :D[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I just added it.
Been slacking.
George Hill now moves into a tie with Ray Allen for Game Winners this season, with 2.
Guess what happened again? :D
Nov 29: Ray Allen makes 24-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) with 22.6 seconds left; 105-100 Heat Win vs Spurs
I think it should probably count as a gamewinning shot because Ray made it 101-98 afterall... Spurs scored only 100 pts, thats 101-100.... thats the shot that won the game... those Lebron/Ray/Wade FTs later was just additional pts because of the fouls Spurs were forced to take...
[QUOTE=pauk]Guess what happened again? :D
Nov 29: Ray Allen makes 24-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) with 22.6 seconds left; 105-100 Heat Win vs Spurs
I think it should probably count as a gamewinning shot because Ray made it 101-98 afterall... Spurs scored only 100 pts, thats 101-100.... thats the shot that won the game... those Lebron/Ray/Wade FTs later was just additional pts because of the fouls Spurs were forced to take...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=pauk]Guess what happened again? :D
Nov 29: Ray Allen makes 24-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) with 22.6 seconds left; 105-100 Heat Win vs Spurs
I think it should probably count as a gamewinning shot because Ray made it 101-98 afterall... Spurs scored only 100 pts, thats 101-100.... thats the shot that won the game... those Lebron/Ray/Wade FTs later was just additional pts because of the fouls Spurs were forced to take...[/QUOTE]
While I was thinking "Deja vu ?", unfortunately I can't add it as a "game winner".
Reasoning ? The Spurs did end up tying the game at 100-100. However, I think I can add it as a "Take the lead with under 24 seconds rule". :cheers:
Ray Allen has been dangerous in the big moments and LeBron's looking for him. :applause:
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]While I was thinking "Deja vu ?", unfortunately I can't add it as a "game winner".
Reasoning ? The Spurs did end up tying the game at 100-100. However, I think I can add it as a "Take the lead with under 24 seconds rule". :cheers:
Ray Allen has been dangerous in the big moments and LeBron's looking for him. :applause:[/QUOTE]
Spurs never tied it at 100-100. they got to 100-101 after Splitter hit 2 FTs
[url]http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400277940&period=4[/url]
thats a game winner by Ray
Legends is actually right, after seeing the play by play... Ray Allen made it 100-98, it was LEBRON who made it 101-98 with a freethrow... Splitter then hit 2 fts making it 101-100... Splitter would have tied the game if Lebron didnt hit that freethrow...
where's kobe's three?
[QUOTE=pauk]Legends is actually right, after seeing the play by play... Ray Allen made it 100-98, it was LEBRON who made it 101-98 with a freethrow... Splitter then hit 2 fts making it 101-100... Splitter would have tied the game if Lebron didnt hit that freethrow...[/QUOTE]
Ray misses and the Spurs likely control the game. They were up 98-97 with 44 secods to go. Missing would give them the ball and a chance to go up by 3-4. That last shot was the last made shot of the game, and it was the one that essentially won the game for Miami.
[QUOTE=Pursuer]where's kobe's three?[/QUOTE]
Misses the criteria cut, because it's 0.5 tenth more than 24 seconds. I know, it's kind off a dumb rule (did not make that up, basketball analysts did) and I probably should have considered making more lists (clutch shot in 48 seconds or below; 1 minute and under, etc... probably still could, but it's pretty deep in the season already).
Kobe's shot is "clutch", regardless.
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Nice win by the Cavs.
Batum hit a 3 leaving 0.2 left on the clock in double OT against the Cavs for the win.
118-117.
[url]http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400277954&period=6[/url]
[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]Ray misses and the Spurs likely control the game. They were up 98-97 with 44 secods to go. Missing would give them the ball and a chance to go up by 3-4. That last shot was the last made shot of the game, and it was the one that essentially won the game for Miami.[/QUOTE]
It should be at least on the "Take the lead with 24 seconds or under shot" category here and Lebron assisting i guess would be in "Game Tying assists leaders"
[QUOTE=pauk]Great thread Legends.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Ledge definitely saved himself early on, before things got too outta control. That first premise would have had every player in history looking like a Superstar.
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JR Smith.
:applause:
Draymond Green joins the list, good stuff rook.
:cheers:
[SIZE="6"][B]DEMAR DEROZAN FOR THE WIN!!!![/B][/SIZE] :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Demar's shot is as clutch as it gets! 0.0 seconds left
[quote][B]Most Clutch NBA Players Today[/B]
This is always a high topic for debate, usually it's a matter of personal opinion. However, using my standards, (The shot is taken in the fourth quarter or overtime with 24 or less seconds left - making it as close to a last possession as we can for filtering stats. The game is tied or the shooters team is down by 1 or 2 points, this way any shot can tie and/or win the game.) you can see if your favorite player is one of the elite crunch time players in the league.
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List Criteria: Exclusively over the last 5 years. [/quote]
[url]http://www.ranker.com/list/most-clutch-nba-players-today/logblobo?page=2[/url]
[url]http://www.ranker.com/list/most-clutch-nba-players-today/logblobo?page=1[/url]
1. Carmelo Anthony - 13/24 - 54%
2. LeBron James - 14/26 - 54%
3. Brandon Roy - 8/16 - 50%
4. Chris Paul - 7/16 - 47%
5. Kobe Bryant 11/39 - 38%
6. Dirk Nowitzki - 5/14 - 36%
7. Ray Allen - 5/15 - 33%
8. Kevin Durant - 12/39 - 29%
9. Dwayne Wade - 5/17 - 29%
10. Derrick Rose - 6/22 - 27%
And yep, after DeRozan made a game-winning buzzer-beater, the next Raptors game just had another one, but this time with the opposing Kyrie Erving with a very deep three with 0.7 sec left.
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[QUOTE=Lebron23][url]http://www.ranker.com/list/most-clutch-nba-players-today/logblobo?page=2[/url]
[url]http://www.ranker.com/list/most-clutch-nba-players-today/logblobo?page=1[/url]
1. Carmelo Anthony - 13/24 - 54%
2. LeBron James - 14/26 - 54%
3. Brandon Roy - 8/16 - 50%
4. Chris Paul - 7/16 - 47%
5. Kobe Bryant 11/39 - 38%
6. Dirk Nowitzki - 5/14 - 36%
7. Ray Allen - 5/15 - 33%
8. Kevin Durant - 12/39 - 29%
9. Dwayne Wade - 5/17 - 29%
10. Derrick Rose - 6/22 - 27%[/QUOTE]
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[SIZE="6"][B]FUKKEN ROODIE GAY MAN!![/B][/SIZE]
Clutch shot in the OT with 1.7 second left for the Raptors win at Pacers' home!
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[QUOTE=kaiteng][SIZE="6"][B]FUKKEN ROODIE GAY MAN!![/B][/SIZE]
Clutch shot in the OT with 1.7 second left for the Raptors win at Pacers' home!
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
:banana: :banana:
[QUOTE=kaiteng][SIZE="6"][B]FUKKEN ROODIE GAY MAN!![/B][/SIZE]
Clutch shot in the OT with 1.7 second left for the Raptors win at Pacers' home!
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Two games later.....
ANOTHER ONE!!! WITH 4.8 SECONDS LEFT, AND RAPTORS WON!!!
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
LeBron hits the game winning layup vs. the Orlando Magic, game winning 3 pointer vs. Grizzlies, and the game winning jumper againts the Boston Celtics. Op needs to update this thread.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ0rmOtQi8I[/url] (Orlando Magic)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpqPFy4IsiM[/url] (Memphis Grizzlies)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fun8D0Z6uA[/url] (Boston Celtics)