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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
I wonder if Houston has the right to void his contract.
As I recall, White did not attend to parts of the training camp because Houston did not map out a plan for him to over come his disorder.
I am sure if he is not attending games and team travel, Houston must have some right to complete void the contract. Then give him his free agency options. Any team willing to sign this kid right now, they will know what they are getting.
I hope that if this kid is released....take some time off and figure this thing out because if he signs on another team and display this kind of attitude, he is done from the league.
For those whom suggestd that he play's home games only, as a owner who is paying his rookie contract only to get half the production....would you be satisfied?
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[QUOTE=G-train]He's not the only guy in the NBA with anxiety and fear of flying. He is just the only guy acting like this.[/QUOTE]
He is just an immature idiot. He was exactly the same way going back to his days in high school at Delasalle and Hopkins.
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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
Tired of this bitch ass n-gga!
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I can understand him wanting them to support him but he's got to understand that they don't owe him a damn thing.
So I am not sure where the attitude comes from. They can cut him at anytime (they would still have to pay him) but its a business.
There are ways to get your point across and he's going about it the wrong way.
It looks like this guy should have gone undrafted.
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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
i dont wanna fly
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Give the fella sleeping pills before boarding and have someone carry him to the plane.
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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
Wow, so he makes all these demands and they meet them. He misses a bunch of practices and is out of game shape and then he gets upset about playing time? I think at this point we should all know it's beyond just the anxiety.
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Can't he go to some therapy? Pop a bunch of pills? It would be a shame to have this cost him an NBA career.
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What a b*tch. Acting like all his problems are the responsibility of the Rockets to hand-hold him through it.
Don't take the job if you can't handle what comes with it. You're only getting paid millions to play a game so quit fkin whining.
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it's reallllyyyyyy hard to have sympathy for this guy. he's extremely fortunate to have a guaranteed contract in the NBA, and he's taking a big crap all over his opportunity. he comes off as unbelievably immature. you reap what you sow ...
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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
I saw on ESPN earlier that currently his issue was at their suggestion for him to join the d-league. LOL. Come on man.
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Wow please void this guys contract :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
Welp reading through this I can see that some people still don't understand, it's not about the flying, that's merely a symptom of the larger problem which are his disorders. Drugs won't do anything for that except just to sedate him but once they wear off it all comes back. And he can, and will, meltdown like he did, and may still be doing.
What confuses the SHIT out of me is how this happened in the first place. How is it that, knowing allll of this before you snagged him, this wasn't set in stone completely before training camp even started? Royce is undoubtedly handling this wrong (SURPRISE! Another young athlete making bad decisions), but the Rockets didn't seem to really protect their investment here.
This is a bizarre situation, and I hope a resolution can be found. If it means Royce takes a year off basketball so be it, but I'd love to see this guy get on the court and produce because he def. has talent.
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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
[QUOTE=Timmy D for MVP]Welp reading through this I can see that some people still don't understand, it's not about the flying, that's merely a symptom of the larger problem which are his disorders. Drugs won't do anything for that except just to sedate him but once they wear off it all comes back. And he can, and will, meltdown like he did, and may still be doing.
What confuses the SHIT out of me is how this happened in the first place. How is it that, knowing allll of this before you snagged him, this wasn't set in stone completely before training camp even started? Royce is undoubtedly handling this wrong (SURPRISE! Another young athlete making bad decisions), but the Rockets didn't seem to really protect their investment here.
This is a bizarre situation, and I hope a resolution can be found. If it means Royce takes a year off basketball so be it, but I'd love to see this guy get on the court and produce because he def. has talent.[/QUOTE]
Right on all points.
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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
darn had him winning ROTY too guess that prediction didnt [B]fly[/B]:hammerhead:
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[QUOTE=MontaEllis24]darn had him winning ROTY too guess that prediction didnt [B]fly[/B]:hammerhead:[/QUOTE]
That's so bad that it's good. :lol
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I don't get the people who think that he's entitled to special treatment. There are millions of people in America and in the world for that matter who suffer from anxiety disorders and have to take on lower stress jobs that they can manage in order to pay bills and put food on the table. Yet he should get 1.8 Mill to miss practices, have twitter rants, hold his team hostage, and refuse to report to the team unless his demands are met. At the end of the day, yes it's basketball but it's also a job. One that if you can't do, you pick a different profession.
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Just give the dude a couple lorazepam or xanax. Anxiety. Gone.
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at first when i watch the video on grantland, i feel bad for this dude
but now i'm thru with it, i'm tired of his bitchass lame excuses
if you won't fly, dont take an nba job
rockets fo need to stop providing anything royce demand
he ain't done nothing yet for the franchise
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The guy is literally filling up my Twitter feed with retweets and making a real point of taking issue with Houston and the way things are going between the franchise and his 'needs'.
I had so much sympathy for the guy just a matter of days ago, but the more he spouts off on Twitter, the less I'm on his side. I don't see him working with the team towards some sort of solution, or if such solution doesn't exist, then a compromise. Instead he's sat there tweeting every hour of every day 'venting'. I also have issue with the fact he's basically coming off as that he has some sort of right to get playing time, that the D-League is beneath him, and that if Houston don't play him, it's because of his anxiety issues and not down to the fact he's missing practices/games and missed a chunk of training camp.
Terrence Jones, Montiejunas were there from the beginning. Jones especially had an impressive pre-season. But now neither are playing much if at all. Which makes it even harder for me to believe that White is being victimized. He needs to take his lumps and earn his playing time like any mid-1st round pick on a team trying to get into the playoffs.
It's such a sad situation though, for all concerned. I'm just disappointed at Royce's approach to everything. From the outside looking in, he's doing himself NO favours.
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how does he get into the nba with some mental disorder shit like this?
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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
[QUOTE=bluechox2]how does he get into the nba with some mental disorder shit like this?[/QUOTE]
Because he is a top 5 pure talent if you ignore his potential mental issues.
Point forward with PG vision, tight handles for a big.
Can shoot the jumper and has great post game.
Big enough to play PF, quick enough to play SF at times.
Rebounds like a boss.
This guy was basically a upgraded Lamar Odom on crack.
Rockets took a chance. Looks like it is blowing up on us right now. Don't know if White's career as a Rocket, or even in the NBA, can be saved right now.
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[QUOTE=noob cake]Because he is a top 5 pure talent if you ignore his potential mental issues.
Point forward with PG vision, tight handles for a big.
Can shoot the jumper and has great post game.
Big enough to play PF, quick enough to play SF at times.
Rebounds like a boss.
This guy was basically a upgraded Lamar Odom on crack.
Rockets took a chance. Looks like it is blowing up on us right now. Don't know if White's career as a Rocket, or even in the NBA, can be saved right now.[/QUOTE]
Good post.
What everyone is failing to understand is, the risk to pick White was a good risk. Sure it might not of come off this time, but if you can snag a top 5 talent and he ends up panning out, you then have more than just a role player who you could of picked at 16, which are a dime a dozen.
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Re: F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
[QUOTE=noob cake]Because he is a top 5 pure talent if you ignore his potential mental issues.
Point forward with PG vision, tight handles for a big.
[B]Can shoot the jumper [/B]and has great post game.
Big enough to play PF, quick enough to play SF at times.
Rebounds like a boss.
This guy was basically a upgraded Lamar Odom on crack.
Rockets took a chance. Looks like it is blowing up on us right now. Don't know if White's career as a Rocket, or even in the NBA, can be saved right now.[/QUOTE]
I thought he was a terrible shooter:confusedshrug:
So a glorified Boris Diaw is now a Top 5 talent?:wtf:
It's a unique skill set but people seem to be confusing 'unique' with 'Elite'
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The Rockets working to help him doesn't mean they need to do everything 100% the way he'd like it done. Listening to him talk, he sounds like a spoiled baby. I don't doubt for 1 second his issues, but he doesn't sound at all like a person trying to get better. Everything is me me me, do it like i want, do it like i need. It really reminds me of a drug addict blaming others for not allowing him to get better so they can keep taking drugs. I think it's easy, he blames them, and doesn't need to play, to fly, because the rockets "won't allow him to".
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His disorder should be called the sensitive bitch disorder. Cus thats exactly what he is. He thinks twitter is like his friend and is looking out for him. He doesnt realize its just a bunch of attention whores sympathizing with him to feel like they talked to someone important. Does this dude not have a dad or something? Hes basically a big black ******, he wants people to feel sorry for him. This generation of kids is so pathetic its unbelievable. Its like having character, being a man and earning respect don't exist for these people.
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[QUOTE=bingoa]I thought he was a terrible shooter:confusedshrug:
So a glorified Boris Diaw is now a Top 5 talent?:wtf:
It's a unique skill set but people seem to be confusing 'unique' with 'Elite'[/QUOTE]
Yea, or you simply don't know who you're talking about.
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I get the feelign some of you think the best think for Royce would be the Rockets giving in to every single demand he makes unconditionally. That's not how treatment works. That's not how anything works.
The Rockets set up a program with him to allow him to function (note: they are paying him to work) and he is not only not following it, he is publicly berating them at every turn, acting like a spoiled child.
This sounds like my daughter complaining she has a stomach ache because she didn't want to go to school. The point is not getting better, the point is avoiding the thing you don't want to do.
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Ok so this kid doesn't show up for training camp, misses practices and wants opportunity to earn playing time? Hahahahahahahahaha
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[QUOTE=Rekindled]he needs to go play in a small country where you dont have to fly to travel.
maybe go play in greece[/QUOTE]
Is he going to swim there?
Seriously if I didn't like to fly the NBA would be off my list of career choices. It would be right up there with pilot.
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[QUOTE=bingoa]I thought he was a terrible shooter:confusedshrug:
So a glorified Boris Diaw is now a Top 5 talent?:wtf:
It's a unique skill set but people seem to be confusing 'unique' with 'Elite'[/QUOTE]
Yes a
15/5/5 or 17/10/5 player like Diaw or Odom is a top talent in a NBA draft. Not everyone can be LeBron and average 30/10/10
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[QUOTE=niko][B]The Rockets working to help him doesn't mean they need to do everything 100% the way he'd like it done. [/B] Listening to him talk, he sounds like a spoiled baby. I don't doubt for 1 second his issues, but he doesn't sound at all like a person trying to get better. Everything is me me me, do it like i want, do it like i need. It really reminds me of a drug addict blaming others for not allowing him to get better so they can keep taking drugs. I think it's easy, he blames them, and doesn't need to play, to fly, because the rockets "won't allow him to".[/QUOTE]
Exactly! That's exactly how I see it. If he said "I want 10 chariots to take me to practice, I want a personal feeder to put food in my mouth so I don't have to, U want this I want that etc..." they shouldn't be forced to do everything he says because he has anxiety. If he makes a reasonable request and they deny it due to the anxiety then yes he has something to take issue with. If they do something like putting him in the D-League because he hasn't played or practiced and he cries anxiety, he's in the wrong. I feel the risk they took was beyond just the risk of him not panning out. It was a risk on his character, his maturity level, and on him being able and willing to meet them half way.
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they knew he had problems when they drafted him. him wanting to ride a bus to every game isn't going to work- white himself should know that.
i think they're going to end up cutting him or trading him to a team that might want to work around his disorder.
anxiety disorder is a mf'er. i myself had my 1st panic attack last week and i thought i was going to shut down and die.
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If he can't travel by a plane and can't practice and etc.. Rockets should kick his sorry ass out of franchise. Royce White is a disgrace to people with anxiety. There are many people with such mental illnesses and they give their best working in bad jobs, earning couple of bucks under shitty bosses.
Rockets gives him million of dollars, taking care of him like a baby and treat him like so important yet he is bitching about everything.How many companies treat like this to their employees?
There are many talented young men around the league and coming each year into the league as well. No big deal.
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This dude seems like an obnoxious brat, calls out his organization on twitter, misses training camp, training sessions and then he wants playing time over guys who work much harder than him
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Rockets took a huge risk in drafting him, and it appears they've been bitten in the ass by it.
I understand he has some mental problems, but honestly, he's in the wrong profession. Constant travel and public/media attention. At the end of the day, the Rockets aren't paying him to not play. It's their fault for drafting him, but it's his fault for not being available. He gives all these vague, repetitive statements on Twitter that don't explain exactly what's keeping him from things like training camp and practices. I used to be really excited about the guy being a Rocket, but he's wearing thin on me.
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well, i was trying to sympathize with the guy but i didn't know about the stuff on twitter. pretty crappy that he's not taking advantage of the mental help they're offering. sounds like a bad pick.
maybe he wants to pull a phil jackson type of deal. don't travel and just play home games.
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[QUOTE=jbot]well, i was trying to sympathize with the guy but i didn't know about the stuff on twitter. pretty crappy that he's not taking advantage of the mental help they're offering. sounds like a bad pick.
maybe he wants to pull a phil jackson type of deal. don't travel and just play home games.[/QUOTE]
lol has any NBA player only played home games before?
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[QUOTE=Darius]lol has any NBA player only played home games before?[/QUOTE]
Blatche?*
*Not sure if right. Trying to make joke about some player, who had really awful road statistics.
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The whole thing about having him only play home games is absolutely ludicrous.
If he can't meet the demands of his job, he needs to move on to another career. It's as simple as that. Look, I feel for his disorder, but if a regular person cannot attend work, they get fired. If Royce's disorder will not allow him to attend his job, he needs to get a new job.
Royce should not expect the Rockets to meet every one of his demands when he won't even go to therapy they have set up and he continues to spout off on Twitter about the organization.