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Bill Simmons doesn't know what he is talking about x and o wise. If you sit him down and go through tape with him he would be lost. He does know the history of tube well. But he cannot analyze what is happeningi the game at any given time. You don't have to learn the game through playing. But you do have to learn the game. Most people just don't understand what is happening on the court and why.
[QUOTE=Timmy D for MVP]So then it becomes even MORE important to have fan based experts in the sport. Otherwise it just becomes people talking about shop, and talking in a way that we can't relate to. A fan writing about a fan's experience is the best option for us no?
And it really is a simple game. I'm not sure why we'd argue this, this is part of it's beauty. Sure it gets more complex, but it's based in simplicity.[/QUOTE]
Yes its a simple game to people who have played the game but for someone who thinks they can just WATCH and understand the game :no:
For example I watch Football every season but only played on a High school level as for Basketball I have played on a higher level and Trust me there is so much more to learn then you kids think.
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]Yes its a simple game to people who have played the game but for someone who thinks they can just WATCH and understand the game :no:
For example I watch Football every season but only played on a High school level as for Basketball I have played on a higher level and Trust me there is so much more to learn then you kids think.[/QUOTE]
Trust me kid, you have much more to learn about grammar which in turn makes it hard to take you seriously when talking about how knowledgeable you are about basketball.
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]How are you going to say that and say Basketball is not Complicated. :facepalm
Trust me Kid Basketball is Complicated then you think in the Higher level.[/QUOTE]
Coaching basketball (ie. managing people) is extremely complicated. Playing basketball is not.
Theres a lot to learn and there are many different concepts, but none of them are complicated...
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Bill Simmons doesn't know what he is talking about x and o wise. If you sit him down and go through tape with him he would be lost. He does know the history of tube well. But he cannot analyze what is happeningi the game at any given time. You don't have to learn the game through playing. But you do have to learn the game. Most people just don't understand what is happening on the court and why.[/QUOTE]
Great post.
[QUOTE=OhNoTimNoSho]You guys are naive as hell. You dont need a second of basketball playing time in order to understand basketball. I am not too familiar with Bill Simmons.. but basketball is not very complicated. Anyone who studies it for an extended period of time will be able to understand it. Stan Van Gundy can be a fat diabetic slob and still know that a player needs better conditioning to improve his game. Wether the player chooses to listen is on him.
I find it amusing how u guys saying u cant be a good coach without having played... when none of you have coached or played in the NBA. How would you know what it takes to be a good coach? Or even what a good coach is?[/QUOTE]
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[quote=ZaaaaaH]I think you are the Silly one.
These players and Coaches put their life for the game as for the Fans its just a hobby.
If it was that simple game of Basketball why are you here and Not coaching?[/quote]
He does coach.
[QUOTE=OhNoTimNoSho]You guys are naive as hell. You dont need a second of basketball playing time in order to understand basketball. I am not too familiar with Bill Simmons.. but basketball is not very complicated. Anyone who studies it for an extended period of time will be able to understand it. Stan Van Gundy can be a fat diabetic slob and still know that a player needs better conditioning to improve his game. Wether the player chooses to listen is on him.
I find it amusing how u guys saying u cant be a good coach without having played... when none of you have coached or played in the NBA. How would you know what it takes to be a good coach? Or even what a good coach is?[/QUOTE]
Not saying you're wrong or right, but you just contradicted yourself. You said that you don't need to play in order to understand the game, then you asked how any of us can know how to coach without actually coaching or playing
If you can't be an expert in basketball without playing it, then you probably can't be a coach in the NBA or even know what it takes to be a coach without playing either
so what exactly did simmons say/do to make irving tweet this?
seems weird for irving to just throw this out unprovoked.
How much experience do you need to be an expert? Michael Jordan was the best but he can't coach and he certainly can't pick out star talent.
I play the game and watch it. I don't need to be an NBA player to see if someone is a bum.
[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Trust me kid, you have much more to learn about grammar which in turn makes it hard to take you seriously when talking about how knowledgeable you are about basketball.[/QUOTE]
Basketball and Grammer?
Nerd mad?
Fyi, Uncle Drew has been playing basketball since Bill Simmons was in diapers.
[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]- You are way off on your silly tangent...
- Ask an anthropologists about a certain tribes history (ones that he studied) and he may give you some great answers.....
But ask him how to live in the Jungle.....survive off the land......get water.....hunt?.....who's advice would you want?...
someone from the tribe who's been living in the jungle thier whole life....or an anthropologists who lived in the jungle maybe 2 weeks.
- Players are the ones Playing the game...they know what works....they know to attack 1' away from the defenders reach or 2'...they know how the game's soul and how it's bieng played at that time....
- No way someone who barely plays basketball and just watches knows more then those who spent thier whole lives playing......they might know the history and can resite certain plays....but they
- The tribes men know how to live and thrive off the Land....not an anthropologists...Kobe knows how to play basketball at a level 2nd to no one....and thrive on a basketball court......not Bill Simmons.
:facepalm .....@U......taking advice how to swim from someone who never been in the water......but watched Michael Phelps once on TV.[/QUOTE]
You are making my point for me. A primitive tribesmen (like an nba player) does have valuable information on their own small circle. But on a whole they have quite clear tunnel vision and outright false views of how the world they live in works.
Hey Chief, Why aren't the crops growing? Chief - "We didn't pray to the rain god enough."
Hey Jordan, Where does Kobe rank all time? Jordan - " For guards, He's probably top 10."
Math has proven that being "On Fire" is a myth, and that having one guy going iso on the last possession to win the game is one of the lowest % shots you can have but Players still "feed the hot hand" and in a tie game with the shot clock off Every team just has their best player go one on one for a win. Despite all of the evidence to the contrary, Nearly ALL players buy into these ideas. You're a big Kobe fan, I suppose you reluctantly agree with him when when he says Jerry west is the best Laker of all time? No, of course you don't.
Have you ever watched the news when someone gets charged with murder and they interview the mother..."Oh no, not my boy. He's so sweet and he would never hurt anyone. You don't know him like I do." then a few months later, Convicted of murder in the first degree.
The obliviousness of players gets even more ridiculous when they are dealing with criticism. They (like most people) just can't come to terms with the fact that they might be screwing up and some of the dumbest things come out of their mouth.
It all depends on the questions you have. If you want to know the best way to defend OJ Mayo, you should probably ask another western conference shooting guard, if you want to know why the hell the Blazers haven't benched JJ Hickson so they can have some scoring off the bench. Probably the worst person to ask would be Hickson.
Don't put yourself in the position of having to defend what Nba players say. Especially when so many of them can't tell their ass from a hole in the wall.
Oh and I can't believe I missed it
[QUOTE]The tribes men know how to live and thrive off the Land....not an anthropologists...Kobe knows how to play basketball at a level 2nd to no one....and thrive on a basketball court......not Bill Simmons.[/QUOTE]
Hey Kobe! What's your opinion on shooting contested 3's over double teams?
Kobe: Take at least 5 a game and you'll be in good shape
Seriously though, Kobe is great and I've seen interviews with him where he actually does have really good advice, not to knock him, but he is the perfect example of someone who has the most hilariously retarded answers when he's trying to defend his litany of boneheaded plays.