ESPN Spin On Lance Armstrong Cheating - "He's like Robin Hood".

[QUOTE=kentatm]:biggums:

you just compared blood doping to raping kids?

WTF is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]
I would ask what's wrong with you, but it's obvious, you're dumb.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]So it was a good idea for Armstrong to be lying and perjuring himself left and right? That's nonsense. Neither of us knows what he did or didn't say to his lawyers in confidence and we may never know but the Lawyer's job is to give Armstrong good advice in this case, if Armstrong talked to a lawyer beforehand at all. If you read the link I posted (no degree required) Armstrong wasn't on trial and thus wasn't being represented, he was being interviewed under oath about a case involving the lawyer's client. [/QUOTE]

Who has said it was a good idea? I said the fault for this does not lie with Armstrong's attorney, and I am not backing down from that. The only thing that is confusing me is why are you trying to shift the blame away from a proven liar (Armstrong) onto a third party?

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]And this is just one example of this, we have no idea how many different times Armstrong lied to a fed, gave false testimony to cover his ass, misled some investigation or another, slandered a witness to his doping, etc. This is going to lead to all kinds of court battles.[/QUOTE]

True, and we'll see what comes of this. I haven't researched the laws of the state of Texas, but I've heard it mentioned that the statute of limitations may limit many of the people who were wronged by Armstrong from recovering anything.

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Comparing Lance Armstrong to Sandusky is just terrible. Sandusky is a person who I'd be 100% happy to see the death penalty.[/QUOTE]
That's sick.

[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]Who has said it was a good idea? I said the fault for this does not lie with Armstrong's attorney, and I am not backing down from that. The only thing that is confusing me is why are you trying to shift the blame away from a proven liar (Armstrong) onto a third party?[/quote]I believe we have a misunderstanding. You said any lawyer would have told him to protect his image. I'm saying that there's no way a lawyer that knew the truth would give that advice, though I am acknowledging that he could also have been lying to the lawyers. I guess you are assuming the lawyers didn't know the truth.

[QUOTE=Scoooter]That's sick.[/QUOTE]

What? Me supporting the death penalty for a sick waste of life like Sandusky? They deserve it. Unfortunately, the death penalty isn't given out to pedophiles, but there's nothing the state could do to those sick pieces of shit that's nearly as bad as what Sandusky did.

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Comparing Lance Armstrong to Sandusky is just terrible. Sandusky is a person who I'd be 100% happy to see the death penalty.[/QUOTE]
The comparison is to illustrate the fact that people are giving the bad guy here a pass because his actions contributed to the greater good of society.

Sandusky ruined a ton of lives but is charity raised money for 10 times more. Armstrong ruined a a bunch of lives to a much lesser degree but he raised money for millions. It's an extreme example but you can't let someone off the hook individually because their evil actions led to more good than harm.. Because more often than not in society it will lead to the opposite happening. It's about the message you're promoting to people who will accept it and live by it.

[QUOTE=tpols]The comparison is to illustrate the fact that people are giving the bad guy here a pass because his actions contributed to the greater good of society.

Sandusky ruined a ton of lives but is charity raised money for 10 times more. Armstrong ruined a a bunch of lives to a much lesser degree but he raised money for millions. It's an extreme example but you can't let someone off the hook individually because their evil actions led to more good than harm.. Because more often than not in society it will lead to the opposite happening. It's about the message you're promoting to people who will accept it and live by it.[/QUOTE]

He said "I don't see those people giving Sandusky a free pass" which implies that if you give Armstrong one, you should give Sandusky one. It's a completely ridiculous analogy.

[QUOTE=kentatm]he cheated in a sport where cheating via blood doping has been rampant since the 19teens? IDGAF.

He did lots of good for cancer research and thats the only real thing that matters.[/QUOTE]


keep thinkin that.lmao....u must get paid to suck his d.i.c.k till he spews dope infested semen all down your toothpick wide throat.lmao

shit is so manipulative its not even funny...him contracting cancer played right into his favor of him fooling millions of people around the world....livestrong was the damn coverup IMO.

DONT GIVE ME THAT "HE DID A LOT FOR CANCER RESEARCH" GARB....CUZ SO DO A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT.

LANCE IS A FCUKING FRAUD......AND I HONESTLY CANT WAIT TO SEE HIM IN HELL....WE ARE GONNA BE THE BEST OF FRIENDS.LMAO

Maybe I'm just confused because I don't follow cycling but, whose lives did Lance Armstrong supposedly ruin?

[QUOTE=tpols]The comparison is to illustrate the fact that people are giving the bad guy here a pass because his actions contributed to the greater good of society.

Sandusky ruined a ton of lives but is charity raised money for 10 times more. Armstrong ruined a a bunch of lives to a much lesser degree but he raised money for millions. It's an extreme example but you can't let someone off the hook individually because their evil actions led to more good than harm.. Because more often than not in society it will lead to the opposite happening. It's about the message you're promoting to people who will accept it and live by it.[/QUOTE]

Sandusky ruined a bunch of innocent lives beyond repair in some cases on a level so depraved it's almost unspeakable.

Armstrong fought back against people trying to bring him down by using lying, legal wrangling and dirty tactics.

Many of those people harmed by Armstrong save one or two were already in deep trouble for their parts in cheating the sport and were trying to save their own bacon by cooperating in bringing Armstrong's cheating to light.

Massive difference.

Lance didn't cheat in order to help people. He cheated to make himself famous by winning sporting events. He also helped people via his foundation. He didn't cheat in order to help people. That connection is funny to me.

Any of you grow up in an area where mafia homes are there? They donate a shitload to the neighborhood. If someone has a sick kid, they give what they can. They donate so the schools have a nice field and can buy computers for the kids. But they are not criminals to get money for these things. They are criminals to get money for themselves. Which they then use (in addition to buying huge freaking houses) partially to help others.

Lance isn't a simple human being, but the cheating part of it and the cover up wasn't some altruistic instinct, it was him protecting himself. The helping others was because he wanted to do it. It's two separate things.

[QUOTE=daily]Sandusky ruined a bunch of innocent lives beyond repair in some cases on a level so depraved it's almost unspeakable.

Armstrong fought back against people trying to bring him down by using lying, legal wrangling and dirty tactics.

Many of those people harmed by Armstrong save one or two were already in deep trouble for their parts in cheating the sport and were trying to save their own bacon by cooperating in bringing Armstrong's cheating to light.

Massive difference.[/QUOTE]
No.. Armstrong used all sorts of blackmailing, threats, and general despicable behavior to extort people into not speaking. He FORCED clean cyclists in his camp to dope so that everyone was involved and he wouldn't take all the individual blame.

LOL at protecting himself against people harming him. You obviously don't know shit about this situation.

[QUOTE=tpols]No.. Armstrong used all sorts of blackmailing, threats, and general despicable behavior to extort people into not speaking. He FORCED clean cyclists in his camp to dope so that everyone was involved and he wouldn't take all the individual blame.

LOL at protecting himself against people harming him. You obviously don't know shit about this situation.[/QUOTE]You're missing the point. It's not comparable in any way shape or form to Sandusky. To even begin to try and connect those dots is idiotic. You're seriously trying to compare buttfu*king a 10 year old boy in the shower to suing somebody to keep their mouth shut

Love the insults btw, makes you so much more credible

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]He said "I don't see those people giving Sandusky a free pass" which implies that if you give Armstrong one, you should give Sandusky one. It's a completely ridiculous analogy.[/QUOTE]
Why is ridiculous? Ridiculous is giving someone a free pass because he done something good at some point. Ridiculous is thinking it's ok to give a free pass to this guy but not to this one.

lol at Lance work with cancer being from the goodness of his heart.

[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]Why is ridiculous? Ridiculous is giving someone a free pass because he done something good at some point. Ridiculous is thinking it's ok to give a free pass to this guy but not to this one.

lol at Lance work with cancer being from the goodness of his heart.[/QUOTE]

I never said I give Lance a pass. If all of the things I'm reading he did were true, such as forcing teammates to use as well, then I certainly wouldn't defend that. Only thing I said concerning Lance is that I could care less about his own individual PED use. My comment was criticizing the analogy to Sandusky.

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]I haven't seen the Oprah thing yet

is this the same "spin" that Lance himself is claiming?




you know, if his little escapade did result in $millions toward cancer research then I guess I am glad it happened...I really don't care about the Tour de France and who wins

in fact, I can't even name another person who has won it other than Lance...[/QUOTE]
my understanding is that much of the funding is for cancer awareness, whatever that is, rather than actual research.

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]I never said I give Lance a pass. If all of the things I'm reading he did were true, such as forcing teammates to use as well, then I certainly wouldn't defend that. Only thing I said concerning Lance is that I could care less about his own individual PED use. My comment was criticizing the analogy to Sandusky.[/QUOTE]What I've learned in this thread is you're not allowed to be indifferent to Armstrong's doping. You're supposed to be outraged and if you're not you're morally bankrupt

here is an interesting take
[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-moore/lance-armstrong-lawsuit_b_2482179.html"]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-moore/lance-armstrong-lawsuit_b_2482179.html[/URL]

Lance Armstrong is a piece of $hit. He's a cheating, lying, son of a b1tch.

Poor Lance. He only cheated cause he wanted a better world. He threatened some of his team mates and their wives for world peace. He bullied people cause they were interfering with his plans to save the children from Africa.

Lance is a real life James Bond. Do whatever is necessary to save the world. Poor Lance now takes all the blame. People always forget you need BIG balls to admit a little wrong you did.

If Lance doesnt win a Nobel prize than these prizes are the nut low.

Did he even had cancer? :confusedshrug: Or did he had some doping, transfusions related problem and decided to pass it as cancer and create a great story? He has the ego.

Why would any doctor come forward and say they took money to tell he had cancer, and look like a villain, lose costumers and the job, etc...

Really, did he even had cancer?

[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]Really, did he even had cancer?[/QUOTE]

This is nuts!

[quote=FPJ]This is nuts![/quote]


No, just one.

[QUOTE=FPJ]Poor Lance. He only cheated cause he wanted a better world. He threatened some of his team mates and their wives for world peace. He bullied people cause they were interfering with his plans to save the children from Africa.

Lance is a real life James Bond. Do whatever is necessary to save the world. Poor Lance now takes all the blame. People always forget you need BIG balls to admit a little wrong you did.

If Lance doesnt win a Nobel prize than these prizes are the nut low.[/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=rufuspaul]:oldlol: At all the Texans coming in here and defending this douche.


[COLOR="Black"]Anyway, I'm just glad he had the ball to finally confess[/COLOR].[/QUOTE]

:lol

lance armstrong already showed his true colors as the ultimate piece of sh!t scumbag. there's really nothing he can do to ever reverse that. he's an incredible liar though. stares straight into your eyes and doesn't even blink, swears to god, the entire bible, and his mother's grave.... come to think of it, this dude is such a pathetic douchebag.