simply a GOAT perimeter player - nuff said:applause: :bowdown:
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simply a GOAT perimeter player - nuff said:applause: :bowdown:
[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT]People may try to put it down and yes he stat-pads every once in a while, and yes it was vs the Bobcats but terrific game by Lebron nontheless, no other way around.
Shot chart
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13/14 on layup drills? that meant u ran laps where I come from.
Vs the 11-36 Bobcats? impressive
Lebron is currently ranked 10th in the league in FG% at [B]55.5%[/B]. The nine players ahead of him are all centers and power forwards, and none of them are averaging better than Dwight Howard's 16.5 ppg. Lebron is averaging nearly 27 ppg, to go along with his 8 boards and 7 assists. This kind of efficiency and volume from a perimeter player is practically unheard of, at least in this era. He's easily the best player in the game and if the Heat finish the season strong and lock up the 1st seed, he should win his 4th MVP award in 5 years.
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And i'm a hater for telling he is the biggest statpadder that i ever saw play?
Didn't watch the game, how many good looks did he pass? How many of his assists was just standing around waiting for Bosh to get open top of the keep and pass him the ball? U know what passes today as great playmaking.
I guess Wade publicly saying he and Lebron are on a statpadding contest, that whoever is more efficient gets all the ped's after the game, isn't enough for people.
I wonder why the Mozart of basketball needed Wade and Bosh. This isn't a 16 or 20 league team, where the best teams had multiple all-stars, this is a 30 team league.
Against the Bobcat :roll: :roll: :roll:
Dude always statpad against weak opponent.. Masterpiece my ass.. :lol
[QUOTE=DC Zephyrs]Lebron is currently ranked 10th in the league in FG% at [B]55.5%[/B]. The nine players ahead of him are all centers and power forwards, and none of them are averaging better than Dwight Howard's 16.5 ppg. Lebron is averaging nearly 27 ppg, to go along with his 8 boards and 7 assists. This kind of efficiency and volume from a perimeter player is practically unheard of, at least in this era. He's easily the best player in the game and if the Heat finish the season strong and lock up the 1st seed, he should win his 4th MVP award in 5 years.[/QUOTE]
He passes up any shot that isn't wide open or a layup. :oldlol: And at first you would think.. Hey that's a good thing. Take only good shots. But with lebron, he's passing the ball up to guys for worse shots than what he could've gotten himself. Batter contested three or lebron for a turnaround 15 footer? Haslem 18 footer or lebron from 20? He's not going to make the right basketball play.. He's going to do whatever gets him the best stat. Pass to batter? Worse that happens is a miss, no assist, and no decline in field goal percentage. Shoot it himself when it's not a layup? That could fvck up his fg and is the worst case scenario in his decision making process.
Lebron isn't playing natural bball.. He's fitting his play around individual numbers.. Passing up shots that would give his team an even bigger edge on purpose to protect a number.
And I remember when pauk was saying taking a half counter at the buzzer could only result in a negative outcome. :oldlol: For winning? Nah.. For lebron's stat sheet? Well that's all that matters to both of them.
[QUOTE=ripthekik]Because they don't have his strength and athleticism.
That's his main weapon, he was blessed with that athleticism. As for other skills like shooting? He's pretty average, comparable to the average NBA player. Everything he's good at, he uses his athleticism to accomplish.
Once his athleticism starts falling.. you lebron fans are in for a rude awakening.. forget top 10 when his career starts sky diving :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:wtf: LeBron has already developed post-moves (and still getting better). When his athleticism falls (who knows when it will, he came into the league a freak of nature so I doubt he will lose it like other players do) he can just move to full-time power forward and dominate the game there. It should be easy just by his size and power alone.
[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]A perimeter player that shoots so rarely from the perimeter might be also unheard off.[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? If you even watched Lebron you would know that the vast majority of his shots are jumpers, which he makes at decent clip these days. He's also attempting over 3 three-pointers a game and making better than 40% of them.
And besides, are you really gonna fault him for getting to the rim for easy buckets? Isn't that the entire point of the game?
[QUOTE=tpols]
Lebron isn't playing natural bball.. [/QUOTE]
This really couldn't be any further from the truth...
[QUOTE=DC Zephyrs]What are you talking about? If you even watched Lebron you would know that the vast majority of his shots are jumpers, which he makes at decent clip these days. He's also attempting over 3 three-pointers a game and making better than 40% of them.
[B]And besides, are you really gonna fault him for getting to the rim for easy buckets? Isn't that the entire point of the game?[/B][/QUOTE]
Nope, it's not natural to want to get high efficiency shots and set up players. Everyone's gotta play hero ball like GawdBe and score 30 points on 25 shots.
Lebron was just trying to copy what David West did to them the other night, when he went 12 for 15 for 30 points. West did it on the champs though.
[QUOTE=DC Zephyrs]What are you talking about? If you even watched Lebron you would know that the vast majority of his shots are jumpers, which he makes at decent clip these days. He's also attempting over 3 three-pointers a game and making better than 40% of them.
And besides, are you really gonna fault him for getting to the rim for easy buckets? Isn't that the entire point of the game?[/QUOTE]
Only perimeter player that shoots less that Lebron from the perimeter... Landry Fields.
I'm not faulting him, i'm faulting you slobbering over him being a perimeter player.
[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]Only perimeter player that shoots less that Lebron from the perimeter... Landry Fields.
I'm not faulting him, i'm faulting you slobbering over him being a perimeter player.[/QUOTE]
Were'd you get those bullshit numbers?
[QUOTE=tpols]He passes up any shot that isn't wide open or a layup. :oldlol: And at first you would think.. Hey that's a good thing. Take only good shots. But with lebron, he's passing the ball up to guys for worse shots than what he could've gotten himself. Batter contested three or lebron for a turnaround 15 footer? Haslem 18 footer or lebron from 20? He's not going to make the right basketball play.. He's going to do whatever gets him the best stat. Pass to batter? Worse that happens is a miss, no assist, and no decline in field goal percentage. Shoot it himself when it's not a layup? That could fvck up his fg and is the worst case scenario in his decision making process.
Lebron isn't playing natural bball.. He's fitting his play around individual numbers.. Passing up shots that would give his team an even bigger edge on purpose to protect a number.
And I remember when pauk was saying taking a half counter at the buzzer could only result in a negative outcome. :oldlol: For winning? Nah.. For lebron's stat sheet? Well that's all that matters to both of them.[/QUOTE]
You make sound like getting a lay up is so easy... You must really diminish Shaq and Wilt's career going by your logic? You do know he drove the rim to get his points right? Please stop acting like you know anything about basketball or even watched the game.
@tomhaberstroh LeBron's now shooting 55.5 percent on the season. Over half his shots are jumpers.
I dont even see the point of watching a game as lopsided as MIA vs CHA
you Bron fans are pretty fanatic
[QUOTE=All Net]@tomhaberstroh LeBron's now shooting 55.5 percent on the season. Over half his shots are wide open jumpers.[/QUOTE]
fixed.
Only the dumber Kobe fans criticize LeBron for this because they define greatness by how many turn around 3's over 4 defenders you hit in your career. Things like smart shot selection don't even enter the ranking process. I've never seen a player get criticized for not taking contested shots I don't see the logic.
[QUOTE=ripthekik]actually it's not "insane", because dude mostly scores in the paint. A huge proportion of his points also come from fastbreaks. If you only take his FG from outside the paint, it'll be most likely around 40% or less.
Hell, last finals he shot 20% outside the paint.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.82games.com/1213/12MIA9.HTM[/url]
65% jumpers :coleman:
[QUOTE=tikay0]31 pts. on 93% shooting is some video game shit.
Not even. You can't even do that in a video game.[/QUOTE]
who cant lol
-Smak
[QUOTE=Stuckey]I dont even see the point of watching a game as lopsided as MIA vs CHA
you Bron fans are pretty fanatic[/QUOTE]
it's like pornography for those fakkits
[QUOTE=LikeABosh]Were'd you get those bullshit numbers?[/QUOTE]
Seriously Lebron stans are so pathetic, there ignorance is truly remarkable.
82games
[QUOTE=Maindi][url]http://www.82games.com/1213/12MIA9.HTM[/url]
65% jumpers :coleman:[/QUOTE]
Landry Fields 59%
Melo 73%, playing half the time at the 4 because Amare was down
Durant 80%
Yes let's all be amazed on Lebron's numbers for a perimeter player when only Landry Fields shoot less from the perimeter.
Oh Look he is less efficient that Melo from the perimeter, you know that guy heat fans keep calling inefficient.
[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]Landry Fields 59%
Melo 73%, playing half the time at the 4 because Amare was down
Durant 80%
Yes let's all be amazed on [B]Lebron[/B]'s numbers for a [B]perimeter player [/B]when only Landry Fields shoot less from the perimeter.
Oh Look he is less efficient that Melo from the perimeter, you know that guy heat fans keep calling inefficient.[/QUOTE]
B-ball reference actually lists Lebron as a pf this season. 82games suggests that he's played more minutes at the pf position than anything else. Yahoo sports has him listed as just a forward with no specification as to whether it's pf or sf. He actually vacillates between the 3 and 4 and honestly is neither just a perimeter nor a post player. He's more a hybrid.
[QUOTE=jlip]B-ball reference actually lists Lebron as a pf this season. 82games suggests that he's played more minutes at the pf position than anything else. Yahoo sports has him listed as just a forward with no specification as to whether it's pf or sf. He actually vacillates between the 3 and 4 and honestly is neither just a perimeter nor a post player. He's more a hybrid.[/QUOTE]
so is melo. but melo isn't terrified of shooting jumpers the way Lebron is.
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negged.
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]negged.[/QUOTE]
:banana:
[QUOTE=STATUTORY]so is melo. but melo isn't terrified of shooting jumpers the way Lebron is.[/QUOTE]
lmao. why shoot jumpers when you can get a layup/dunk? the way the heat are built it's more beneficial to the team if he's getting in the paint.
[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]:banana:[/QUOTE]
negged again.
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]negged again.[/QUOTE]
:banana: :banana:
[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]:banana: :banana:[/QUOTE]
triple negged.
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]triple negged.[/QUOTE]
ok that was cool. I surrender
[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]ok that was cool. I surrender[/QUOTE]
:pimp:
[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]ok that was cool. I surrender[/QUOTE]
repped.
[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]Only perimeter player that shoots less that Lebron from the perimeter... Landry Fields.
I'm not faulting him, i'm faulting you slobbering over him being a perimeter player.[/QUOTE]
So salty and insecure :roll:
Enjoy your inevitable first round exit.
[QUOTE=STATUTORY]so is melo. but melo isn't terrified of shooting jumpers the way Lebron is.[/QUOTE]
It makes a lot more sense to take higher pct. shots. But you wouldn't know that being mentally r.etarded and all.
[QUOTE=jlip]B-ball reference actually lists Lebron as a pf this season. 82games suggests that he's played more minutes at the pf position than anything else. Yahoo sports has him listed as just a forward with no specification as to whether it's pf or sf. He actually vacillates between the 3 and 4 and honestly is neither just a perimeter nor a post player. He's more a hybrid.[/QUOTE]
I honestly hate listing guys like Lebron or Magic by one position, yes they might have started one position more than some other positions.... but they were ping-ponging between 4 positions/roles their entire life, they were much more than just ONE position, they were... everything... whatever you wanted.... they should simply be listed "Guard-Forward or Forward-Guard", its more correct...
and i dont know why B-ball reference lists him this season as PF, yes he does play PF (or PG) during substitution lineup/roster changes in the games a bit... but Lebron has always started SF this season
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]It makes a lot more sense to take higher pct. shots. But you wouldn't know that being mentally r.etarded and all.[/QUOTE]
simple statement from a simple man.