Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP

Anyone who thinks that Parker is MVP over Lebron is either:

1. A Lebron hater
2. A low bball IQ fan
3. A spurs fan
4. A threatened Kobe dick rider.

[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]If being on the best team means nothing. Please explain how Derick Rose took home 98% of 1st place votes a couple of years ago.[/QUOTE]

Because voters hated Lebron because of the decision. The hate is over and Lebron's 2013 season is even far superior than the 2011 season.

Lebron will win his 4th MVP. It's okay. Accept it and move on. No one is within miles of Lebron.

[QUOTE=thefatmiral]lebron stats are better, but parker is playing below the rim, and isn't the strongest, fastest and most athletically gifted player ever, considering what tony does with his attributes he should be ranked above lebron, skill wise.[/QUOTE]
that may be true but he is probably one of the quickest nba players

[QUOTE=secund2nun]Because voters hated Lebron because of the decision. The hate is over and Lebron's 2013 season is even far superior than the 2011 season.

Lebron will win his 4th MVP. It's okay. Accept it and move on. No one is within miles of Lebron.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't explain why they chose Rose over every other player not named Lebron. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=greymatter]The fact that he finished 5th doesn't advance your argument. If anything, it makes it worse. He only got 15 first place votes out of 125. He had more 3rd, 4th, and 5th place votes. He had fewer 1st place votes than guys whose teams won 54, 50, and 47 games. Best player on the best team could only manage 5th place and it was about where he was expected to finish because he was never anything remotely close to a superstar level talent.

Tony Parker is better than Billups was, but not enough so to make a case higher than 4th place in voting.[/QUOTE]

The man got multiple 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th place votes. He was clearly in the MVP conversation. It was only his team record that pushed him in there. His stats alone don't merit any votes. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]That doesn't explain why they chose Rose over every other player not named Lebron. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

1. Lebron hatred was at an all time high. They did not want to give him the MVP so they gave it to Rose. Today not that many people hate Lebron so they have no problem giving it to him.

2. Lebron's 2013 season is insane.

3. The media lied and pretended that Rose carried Chicago (which is BS). This BS fueled combined with the Lebron hate fueled him to win the MVP. The Spurs are Tim Duncan's team, not Parkers. Duncan is the best player on that team.

Lebron is a lock for the MVP.

[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]The man got multiple 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th place votes. He was clearly in the MVP conversation. It was only his team record that pushed him in there. His stats alone don't merit any votes. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Apparently you have no clue that Tony Parker isn't remotely what anyone would call a superstar level talent and that fact alone is what will and should prevent him from being a favorite to win MVP. Just being in the conversation means jack shit. The thread title specifically says "a favorite", which TP has absolutely no case for over the likes of KD and LBJ. Technically Elton Brand was "in the conversation" by virtue of having a vote in 2006.

Its just team basketball man, deep & balanced team, there was 3 guys playing better than him tonight... 4 guys with almost 20 points, 6 guys in double figures.... Tim Duncan with his return is already starting to regain his title as the best player on that team aswell

[QUOTE=greymatter]Apparently you have no clue that Tony Parker isn't remotely what anyone would call a superstar level talent and that fact alone is what will and should prevent him from being a favorite to win MVP. Just being in the conversation means jack shit. The thread title specifically says "a favorite", which TP has absolutely no case for over the likes of KD and LBJ. Technically Elton Brand was "in the conversation" by virtue of having a vote in 2006.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't responding to the thread title I was responding to your post. Your exact words.

" he has no business being mentioned in any non-retard's MVP conversation"

He's clearly in the conversation and his "case" is centered around his team record. Sorry if that upsets you. :confusedshrug:

Parker has no chance in hell to even be considered above lebron for MVP. Got this from another board not including games from 2/23, comparing Lebron to Parker

Pro Parker post

[quote]I think Parker deserves it more. Manu and Duncan have missed a lot of games, and Parker has clearly been the best player on the best team in the league. It's about time he's rewarded for that. People also seem to ignore just how great Wade and Bosh have been this season. [/quote]

answer back


[quote]

I personally dislike the "best player on the best team argument" as it doesn't accurately reflect a player's value to his team. You're kidding yourself if you think the Spurs without Parker are worse than the Heat without Lebron. I'll post it again:

Lebron On-Off:
11.2 ORtg On Court
-6.8 ORtg Off Court
18.0 ORtg Net On-Off

Parker On-Off:
11.1 ORtg On Court
5.0 ORtg Off Court
6.1 ORtg Net On-Off

Truth is, Coach Pop has an amazing ability to make the most out of his players as well as designing an efficient offensive system. Also, Tim Duncan is having a resurgent year that we should not overlook when considering the Spurs' success. Parker is fighting Chris Paul for the best PG in the league, but to say that he's more instrumental to the Spurs' success than Lebron is to the Heat's is absurd. If Lebron finishes the year at the rate he's been producing since recovering from his ankle injury 18 games ago, this is arguably a top 3 peak year of any player in NBA history.[/quote]


Lebron has this on lock:biggums:

Just like I expected.. not a big drop off when Spurs are without Parker.

Great article comparing Parker vs lebron impactwise on their teams.


[b]2012-13 NBA Most Valuable Player: LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Tony Parker [/b]

[url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1540762-2012-13-nba-most-valuable-player-lebron-james-kevin-durant-tony-parker[/url]


[quote]Player Efficiency Rating. Probably the most popular among metrics that most people lean on to determine who the best player is. This involves a complicated formula that determines a player's per-minute productivity.

While Parker has a great PER, at 24.7 (fourth overall), LeBron James is king at 31.5.

If you look at their APER (Alternate PER), which is adjusted for actual assisted and unassisted field goals (last updated February 10th), Parker's efficiency jumps up to 27.04. However, as you might surmise, James' numbers curve upward as well. He tops out at a smooth 32.31

Win Shares. The estimated amount of wins that a player contributes to their team's win total.

Tony Parker, for as awesome as he has been, has a win share total of 8.8 right now (fifth overall). So, he is personally responsible for 8.8 of his team's 44 wins