When do "bandwagon" fans become regular fans?

[QUOTE=NuggetsFan]Jesus Christ :oldlol: ... there are teams in the league who would KILL for that. Sub .500 record isn't even that bad for some teams. 2 trips to the 2nd round? That's pretty successful for the majority of the league.

Just because you aren't winning rings and making the finals every year doesn't mean you're up shits creek. Welcome to the NBA Laker fans.[/QUOTE]

Believe me, this wasn't a "woe is me" thing. It just seems like now would be a strange time to randomly start rooting for the Lakers. I mean, Kobe's been on this team forever...people who were living in their dad's sacs when he was drafted are now going to prom and driving. When could they have been fans when the team had a really big dry spell? I'm willing to give most of them the benefit of the doubt, but then again, they ARE my favorite team.

Anyhow, it's kind of sad that this thread, like nearly every other thread here, has devolved into a general "fvck Lebron fans" thread. :facepalm

[QUOTE=BrickingStar]He speaks the truth nearly [B]all the post I see from you are anti lebron or digs at him and the heat. No idea why you rep a tronto homer when you never talk about them[/B].[/QUOTE]

these "digs" you speak of, are mostly me not agreeing that Lebron is better than Jordan or is an all time top 6 player already.. When people are discussing him being MVP, best player in the league or anything else about his game i have nothing negative to say because i agree with that?

lately i've been a little anti heat/lebron more than usual because i feel his fans are hyping him up like he's better than prime MJ.. and thats just..no.

and i pay respect to the dope ass throwbacks of Toronto? so what? Also it was a little anti jinx after they beat the Lakers, and hey since then the Lakers have been playing half way decently so :applause:

[QUOTE=NumberSix]I don't "hate" Kobe. He's CERTAINLY not my ideal choice for a franchise player, but I don't hate the guy.

[B]Full disclosure, I hope when Kobe and LeBron's contracts are up, Kobe retires and the Lakers sign LeBron.[/B][/QUOTE]

:applause:

and if we're all being honest here, my anti Lebron attitude doesn't come from a dislike of Lebron, i was a HUGE Bron fan when he came into the L, still have his Cavs jersey, i just started resenting the media's admiration to label this guy as better than everybody from such an early age, when the comparisons were first made back in like 06 to Kobe. and the media started asking who was better i felt like it was waay to pre mature at the time, and just a typical ESPN thing to do.

Now i feel the same way, with the Jordan comparisons..

let the guy repeat as champion before we start comparing him to MJ

When you stop being a frontrunner and stay with the team through it's worst imo

because i don't live in the US, have no ties and feel no loyalty to any one city, i will always be a bandwagon fan. i follow my favorite players and root for the teams they are on. i would however, root for the team where i live if i ever move there.

my history of fandom since i started following the NBA

Bulls (Pippen)
Kings (Webber-Christie era)
Suns (Nash MVP years)
Cavs (Lebron)
Heat (Lebron)

[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]:applause:

and if we're all being honest here, my anti Lebron attitude doesn't come from a dislike of Lebron, i was a HUGE Bron fan when he came into the L, still have his Cavs jersey, i just started resenting the media's admiration to label this guy as better than everybody from such an early age, when the comparisons were first made back in like 06 to Kobe. and the media started asking who was better i felt like it was waay to pre mature at the time, and just a typical ESPN thing to do.

Now i feel the same way, with the Jordan comparisons..

let the guy repeat as champion before we start comparing him to MJ[/QUOTE]

No offense brah but that ain't any better than bandwagoning.....if u a true MJ fan u would know amount of hate Jordan received after being probably the biggest media sensation even before his first retirement...

Almost everybody is a bandwagon MJ fan, having never been a chitown fan before he rocked the league...remember when NY and Brooklyn rode Jordan because he happened to have been born there? Wasn't THE DUNK Starks the man after he dunked on MJ and Grant? Spike Lee ring a bell?

Trolling is one thing and all in good fun, but Bandwagon hating is not any better than being a bandwagon fan......

[QUOTE=alleykat]No offense brah but that ain't any better than bandwagoning.....if u a true MJ fan u would know amount of hate Jordan received after being probably the biggest media sensation even before his first retirement...

Almost everybody is a bandwagon MJ fan, having never been a chitown fan before he rocked the league...remember when NY and Brooklyn rode Jordan because he happened to have been born there? Wasn't THE DUNK Starks the man after he dunked on MJ and Grant? Spike Lee ring a bell?

Trolling is one thing and all in good fun, but Bandwagon hating is not any better than being a bandwagon fan......[/QUOTE]


What we you talking about I said IMO its to early to compare Mj & Lebron on an all time scale ?

[QUOTE=I<3NBA]because i don't live in the US, have no ties and feel no loyalty to any one city, i will always be a bandwagon fan. i follow my favorite players and root for the teams they are on. i would however, root for the team where i live if i ever move there.

my history of fandom since i started following the NBA

Bulls (Pippen)
Kings (Webber-Christie era)
Suns (Nash MVP years)
Cavs (Lebron)
Heat (Lebron)[/QUOTE]

Yeah I understand that. I'm from Australia thus have no real allegiance to any city. I was a huge Garnett fan, and thus a Timberwolves fan, but then started watching Durant in college and fell in love with his game thus Seattle to OKC fan.

I will follow Seattle though when they get a team back no matter if the best player is ****ing Byron Mullens. I've now been to the USA and loved Washington State and also Oregon.. so I feel an allegiance to that area now. I'd follow Portland but my favorite color is green and I always had a soft spot for the Sonics.

[QUOTE=SpecialQue]A month or so ago the Lakers blew out some team on the road and were getting loud cheers. Kobe even got louder MVP chants than he gets at Staples. In the GT, someone here commented on all the "bandwagon Laker fans" there, but seriously, at this point, are they still bandwagon fans? After two 2nd round exits and a sub-500 record?

The overall question here is: when can someone no longer be considered a bandwagon fan?[/QUOTE]
when the stick with a team through extended suckage. so, no, not after two years of 2nd round exits. after several years of not even sniffing the playoffs.

also, if you are only a fan of a team because of a player (in other words, you will stop rooting for that team after the player leaves or retires) you are a bandwagoneer.

[QUOTE=boozehound]also, if you are only a fan of a team because of a player (in other words, you will stop rooting for that team after the player leaves or retires) you are a bandwagoneer.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]What we you talking about I said IMO its to early to compare Mj & Lebron on an all time scale ?[/QUOTE]

Yes, and u said its part of ur anti James attitude (its in ur post).....I'm merely saying its the same kind of hype and hate MJ received before he earned it...

Just saying hating sumone to counteract bandwagoning is just as whack...it might be another MJ story so....

What if you are just a fan of an individual player in the NBA? Does that make you a bad person?

[QUOTE=HorryIsMyMVP]What if you are just a fan of an individual player in the NBA? Does that make you a bad person?[/QUOTE]
No.

Look, if my cousin gets drafted by an NBA team, whatever fcuking team it is, that's the team I'm gonna be a fan of and I'm ditching my team. Call that bandwagon if you want, but thats what I would do.

I really don't mind bandwagon fans. is it really wrong to cheer for a team because they play the game the right way as opposed to where they are geographically located?


Edit: Also if there were no such thing as bandwagon fans and everyone was a hardcore fan there would be little reason for a team to try and get better.

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]I really don't mind bandwagon fans. is it really wrong to cheer for a team because they play the game the right way as opposed to where they are geographically located?


Edit: Also if there were no such thing as bandwagon fans and everyone was a hardcore fan [B]there would be little reason for a team to try and get better[/B].[/QUOTE]
I'm a strong believer that teams should earn their fanbase. Look at it like this, even if there are a lot of LeBron bandwagoners, Cleveland should have done what it takes to keep LeBron and his fanbase. That's business.

Either make your team interesting, good or both. You'll earn fans.

TTT

Chip L'Huile

Fans of bad teams are much more of a fan than fans of teams like the Lakers or Celtics. Most of them only saw who was the best team at the time they started watching basketball and its usually one of the two. Rarely endure hard times and live in a fairytale world with their team.

[QUOTE=atljonesbro]Fans of bad teams are much more of a fan than fans of teams like the Lakers or Celtics. Most of them only saw who was the best team at the time they started watching basketball and its usually one of the two. Rarely endure hard times and live in a fairytale world with their team.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but that's fcuking idiotic. If you grew up in Boston, what are you supposed to do? Be a Wizards fan? Why? So random forum posters will respect you as a "real fan"? Really bro?

[QUOTE=NumberSix]I'm sorry, but that's fcuking idiotic. If you grew up in Boston, what are you supposed to do? Be a Wizards fan? Why? So random forum posters will respect you as a "real fan"? Really bro?[/QUOTE]
Don't try to tell me a Lakers fan has just as much Fandom as a f*cking Bucks fan. It takes something strong to be a Bucks fan, Lakers not so much.

[QUOTE=atljonesbro]Don't try to tell me a Lakers fan has just as much Fandom as a f*cking Bucks fan. It takes something strong to be a Bucks fan, Lakers not so much.[/QUOTE]
You ever been to LA. I can tell you there are plenty of absolutely rabid fans. Why do you think there is so much pressure for the team to succeed? Why, because nobody cares? That make sense to you?

You think Bucks fans or Bobcats fans are as demanding of success? For real?