[Breaking Tweet] Lebron may be juicing: He and Agent associated with 'Roid Clinic

[QUOTE=zabuza666]But if everyone is using it what's the problem? If all athletes are utilising PEDs then no-one is at a disadvantage. Also the biggest advantage of anabolic steroids is the drastic increase the give in recovery time, which enables athletes to train harder more often. So if you consider that then it grants athletes the ability to better exploit their own strengths and skills.[/QUOTE]
Because there are potentially major health risks with steroids, and it would be unfair for the athletes unwilling to take those risks to compete against those who would. Comparing steroids with creatine is a joke

[QUOTE=zabuza666]I'm using a hypothetical where PEDs are legal in sports.[/QUOTE]
Your hypo situation doesn't make sense because PED's seriously endanger health.

[QUOTE=zabuza666]I'm using a hypothetical where PEDs are legal in sports.[/QUOTE]

PEDs has a tons of side effects. Athletes are supposed to be our role model, not someone who are teaching us how to endanger our bodies.

- Source is bogus.
- LeBron's probably juicing, but I don't think anything will come out this season. If he is, he's certainly not the only one. The league will want to protect itself.
- Athletes aren't supposed to be anything.

[QUOTE=zabuza666]But if everyone is using it what's the problem? If all athletes are utilising PEDs then no-one is at a disadvantage. Also the biggest advantage of anabolic steroids is the drastic increase the give in recovery time, which enables athletes to train harder more often. So if you consider that then it grants athletes the ability to better exploit their own strengths and skills.[/QUOTE]
:biggums:

I wouldn't be surprised if players were juicing back in the 80s to be honest. It doesn't matter if the playing field is even and everybody else is juicing on some fashion.

At the end of the day, all the juicing in the world can't help your jumper.

[QUOTE=chazzy]Because there are potentially major health risks with steroids, and it would be unfair for the athletes unwilling to take those risks to compete against those who would. Comparing steroids with creatine is a joke[/QUOTE]

Ok lets clarify this nice and early. The use of anabolic steroids does not cause health problems when utilised in a correct and proper manner. If an individual does abuse steroids, they will get adverse health effects (which could have severe ramifications). However to reiterate my point I'll say it again, anabolic steroid use, when done correctly; does not cause significant health issues. For evidence on this please see 'Anabolics 9th Edition' by William Llewellyn

[QUOTE=zabuza666]Ok lets clarify this nice and early. The use of anabolic steroids does not cause health problems when utilised in a correct and proper manner. If an individual does abuse steroids, they will get adverse health effects (which could have severe ramifications). However to reiterate my point I'll say it again, anabolic steroid use, when done correctly; does not cause significant health issues. For evidence on this please see 'Anabolics 9th Edition' by William Llewellyn[/QUOTE]

Even then, people react differently to all sorts of drugs. If I have a Tylenol pill right now I'll have to get rushed to ER or I'll die :confusedshrug:

Like you're hinting at, these are pro athletes under the care of pro trainers (dopers?), they know what they're doing. They also have team physicians and doctors that can monitor his health on a weekly basis if needed.

No major news source has reported anything so there's no reason to assume anything as of right now. On a side note I found this gif:

[IMG]http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh600/Rodman2124/Sternjuice_zpsbe4475e4.gif[/IMG]

:lol

[QUOTE=shady6121]No major news source has reported anything so there's no reason to assume to anything as of right now. On a side note I found this gif:

[IMG]http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh600/Rodman2124/Sternjuice_zpsbe4475e4.gif[/IMG]

:lol[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Seriously though, even if they league KNEW he was on PEDs, they'd cover it up to protect the reputation of the league. There is no way they'd let something like this come to light from their poster boy.

I dont understand why bball players would want to juice in the first place. Bball is like the only sport where JUST being strong means nothing! I can see baseball,football,hell even tennis. But bball???

U can be the strongest in the nba but if u cant shoot whats the point?

If u cant read the double team....whats the point?

If u cant hit free throws.....whats the point??

I always thought using performance enhancin drugs were useless especially in bball and soccer but i guess i was wrong.lol

Complete bullshit.. And from a bad source as well

Nothing to see here

Let me post this here also:

Widespread use of PEDs in the NBA is a thinly veiled secret.

The NBA is a business. Powerful hyper-athletes are good for business, the scandals that come with meticulous testing and PED use prevention are bad for business. See where this is going?


It's embarrassing to see the stans make those "player X is on PEDs" statements though. If LeBron is on some designer PEDs (which I'm sure he is), rest assured that your favorite player is also.

[QUOTE=LJJ]Let me post this here also:

Widespread use of PEDs in the NBA is a thinly veiled secret.

The NBA is a business. Powerful hyper-athletes are good for business, the scandals that come with meticulous testing and PED use prevention are bad for business. See where this is going?


It's embarrassing to see the stans make those "player X is on PEDs" statements though. If LeBron is on some designer PEDs (which I'm sure he is), rest assured that your favorite player is also.[/QUOTE]

I think its just got to the point where they should allow it in all sports and not even bother testing for it. I'm sure heaps of players do it and athletes in every sport do it. If anything it would only improve sports viewing seeing guys ran faster, jump higher and be able to go harder for longer. In the end all the guys who get to the NBA or most of them get there due to being mentally tougher and having better skills, height and good basketball IQ. All drug testing would do is take out good players just like it has done in boxing and MMA which is not good for anyone.

Basketball in the end is a sport which requires a high level of skill most the time unlike pure explosive/endurance sports like swimming, running & cycling where taking supplements would be to much of an advantage.

No point punishing one person for something you know a lot of others do, there so much stuff on there they probably can't even test for.

That damn Rashard Lewis, such a bad influence. :lol

So the league allows him to constantly travel, use his off arm to get by people, and like we saw yesterday, to grab someone and blatantly push him down with one arm while "blocking" him with the other, this at PLAIN SIGHT of everyone.

Lebron can take all the drugs he can, he will never be exposed. Just look at how the big three were formed, the guy agreed to join another team while under contract, he forfeited a game and a series because of that, the Heat went as far as dumping a second pick because they knew he was coming, Wade publicly with a slip up about the time they all agreed to join up, i mean how much more illegal does it need get for people to realize nothing is happening?

NBE at it's best.

[quote=andremiller07]I think its just got to the point where they should allow it in all sports and not even bother testing for it. I'm sure heaps of players do it and athletes in every sport do it. If anything it would only improve sports viewing seeing guys ran faster, jump higher and be able to go harder for longer. In the end all the guys who get to the NBA or most of them get there due to being mentally tougher and having better skills, height and good basketball IQ. All drug testing would do is take out good players just like it has done in boxing and MMA which is not good for anyone.

Basketball in the end is a sport which requires a high level of skill most the time unlike pure explosive/endurance sports like swimming, running & cycling where taking supplements would be to much of an advantage.

No point punishing one person for something you know a lot of others do, there so much stuff on there they probably can't even test for.[/quote]

[FONT=Arial]I think they made the right decision officially banning certain substances, but simply not implementing any relevant measures to enforce this rule. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial]For public perception’s sake it’s still important to maintain the image of being clean. This is just like the referee situation in the NBA. Everybody who follows the NBA closely knows there is some shenanigans going on and games are being manipulated. The exact degree to which this happens isn’t really known, but we all know it happens. That is certainly not the public perception of the sport though, the vast majority of the NBA audience doesn’t know this happens. If game fixing ever became a widely accepted aspect of the NBA’s identity th[/FONT][FONT=Arial]at would have an immense negative impact on the NBA’s popularity. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]I also think the way banned substance use in the NBA is clandestine helps to curb the worst excesses. The more PEDs you allow to be used, the further you advance the science and industry of these things and the further you push athletes to find a new edge.[/FONT]

What a reliable source :rolleyes:

Unless he got a couple injuries, I dont see why he would need steroids.

"Breaking tweet"

how depressing.

-Smak

If Lebron is using something illegal, the NBA will do everything in its power to suppress any information. A scandal like this would ruin their business for a long time. The 2002 match fixing scandal still looms over the league, the best basketball player in the world done for cheating would be disastrous for the NBA business as a whole.

100 dollars says Dan Gilbert is behind this. :lol

Anyhow, doubt Lebron is juicing. Dude is naturally tall, strong, and fast. Not everyone tall, strong, and fast using roids.

I don't think the NBA should be too concerned with performance enhancers. Most of the advantage gained in basketball would be in recovering from injuries and I think that is a good thing. In any case, steroids or HGH is not what makes Lebron great. Lebron is great because he's great.

Also, the story is probably a load of crap.

Incarcerated Bob is the absolute KING of Twitter hype and weasel words. I'd like to hate on the guy for being a complete fraud, but hell, can't knock the hustle. Hell, maybe it'll teach people a lesson that just because someone types some words it doesn't make them true.

I'm not going to accuse him of being a juicer until there is some hard evidence to support it. However, I've been around the sport of bodybuilding for many years and what I know about steroids has forced me to look at Lebron with a somewhat skeptical eye. We may never know the truth because I don't see the NBA letting their best player go down for using PED's.

If he is using I'm not sure that I even care. It's a corrupt world we live in. I don't have a problem accepting that reality. In this life the people that succeed are the ones that are willing to do what ever it takes. There are many examples to support this.

I've also wondered why it would make a difference if NBA players were using PED's. They still have to put the ball in the hoop, which no amount of PED's can improve. That's purely hand-eye coordination. But then why does it matter so much in baseball? Hitting a 95-mph fastball is arguably tougher than hitting an off-balanced 3-pointer. Barry Bonds, without steroids, would still be one of the best sluggers in baseball. But because he juiced up, when he DOES hit the ball, it carries that much farther - often making the difference between a 300-ft double and a 320-ft home run.

For the NBA, PED's would certainly help players to run faster, jump higher, etc., but not by a ton. It's unlikely an NBA player jumping 37 inches at his max vertical to add another 10 inches to his vertical because he's taking PED's. But let's say he even adds 2 or 3 inches to his vertical. If he goes up for a dunk, that could make the difference between him getting blocked by the finger tips of the defending center and a dunk. Blocked... or scored. THAT's why it's cheating.

Let's take the analogy a little further... What if some tech lab developed a pair of shoes with springs on them that make you jump 10 inches higher? You think the NBA is going to allow those? Even if it makes the game more exciting to watch? By that logic, Slam Ball would still be around. Sports are supposed to celebrate what the natural man can achieve with his own body - it's not impressive if someone can do some cool tricks with the help of PED's, a bionic suit, or anything else extraneous that enhances what you couldn't do on your own.

[QUOTE=All Net]Complete bullshit.. And from a bad source as well

Nothing to see here[/QUOTE]
that's what they said about Lance Armstrong

[QUOTE=winwin]that's what they said about Lance Armstrong[/QUOTE]

:roll:
Not even close. So LeBron has faced hateful accusations for years with former teammates coming out and speaking against him?

lebron doesnt even look that jacked... he is just a freak of nature since his middle school days probably..
what good would steroids do to someone like lebron?

[url]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhV08QM3r6L41ao485[/url]

[QUOTE=alenleomessi]lebron doesnt even look that jacked... he is just a freak of nature since his middle school days probably..
what good would steroids do to someone like lebron?[/QUOTE]
recovery

Its a weak tweet and definitely not worth discussing. He says "may" and "linked." We are all linked to everything in the internet age. Anybody who puts "may" in their tweet is a gossip columnist.

[QUOTE=alenleomessi]lebron doesnt even look that jacked... he is just a [B]freak of nature since his middle school days[/B] probably..
what good would steroids do to someone like lebron?[/QUOTE]
:coleman:


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This bob guy delivers the worst sources for the nba and nfl :facepalm

[QUOTE=winwin]that's what they said about Lance Armstrong[/QUOTE]
trust me that didn't start with this guy as it's sources :roll: :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=winwin]:coleman:


[IMG]http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1109/lebron.james.high.school/images/desk.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

check out the yellow kobes adidas spaceshoes in lebron's locker :bowdown: :bowdown:

kobes longevity :bowdown: :bowdown:

[QUOTE=shady6121][url]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhV08QM3r6L41ao485[/url][/QUOTE]

So it's third hand information from a guy whose only known name is "Incarcerated Bob" who got his info, third handed!

[QUOTE=winwin]:coleman:


[IMG]http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1109/lebron.james.high.school/images/desk.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
His body needed to grow into that enormous head. But steroids made Barry Bonds head bigger.

OP quoted incarcerated bob.

Of course he is juicing. Kobe is probably on that juice too.