We going to act like Wade didn't almost cost the Heat the game?

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]Nobody is talking about Parker, because deep down nobody gives a **** about him. Nobody cares about the Spurs, they just want to see someone beat the Heat.

Parker is MAYBE a top ten player in the NBA, but Duncan is by far the MVP of that team just like every 7 footer is their playoff teams MVP aside from the Heat/OKC.

Parker was shut down by LeBron James.[/QUOTE]

I don't think I would go that far probably, but you are right. When everyone only talks about you when you play well...and don't say anything when you play poorly.

You aren't a superstar.

to the op .. we already know that lebron wins the game by himself only doesnt need team mates

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Wait. You think Kobe was the best player in the 2010 finals game 7?[/QUOTE]

"Despite Kobe struggling shooting the ball, he was instrumental on the glass in a low-scoring game where every possession was key and held Ray to 3 for 14 shooting" - Doc Rivers

"I thought in Game 7 [of the 2010 NBA Finals], what gets lost on people, Boston was badly out rebounded, and he [Kobe Bryant] didn't have a particularly good shooting night, but he had a great rebounding night and that probably was the difference of the game." - Tom Thibodeau


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Oh, and let's not forget Kobe's phenomenal Game 5 performance. If any of the other Lakers showed up that game, they wouldn't have even needed a Game 7. He was clearly the best player of that series, in fact though 6 games he averaged 30/6/5/2/ 56 TS%. people in the media were saying he should be awarded FMVP even if the Celtics won.

[QUOTE=Ne 1]"Despite Kobe struggling shooting the ball, he was instrumental on the glass in a low-scoring game where every possession was key and held Ray to 3 for 14 shooting" - Doc Rivers

"I thought in Game 7 [of the 2010 NBA Finals], what gets lost on people, Boston was badly out rebounded, and he [Kobe Bryant] didn't have a particularly good shooting night, but he had a great rebounding night and that probably was the difference of the game." - Tom Thibodeau


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Oh, and let's not forget Kobe's phenomenal Game 5 performance. If any of the other Lakers showed up that game, they wouldn't have even needed a Game 7. He was clearly the best player of that series, in fact though 6 games he averaged 30/6/5/2/ 56 TS%. people in the media were saying he should be awarded FMVP even if the Celtics won.[/QUOTE]

Why are you talking about other games? I asked if you thought Kobe was the best player in game 7. I guess you do. No need to respond.

don't forget that crappy jumper he missed towards the end of the 4th qt with the game on the line. I yelled so loud i'm sure the neighbors heard me.

Dirk in Game 6 2011 Finals: 9-27.

Guess you could also that Parker's game last night was Dirk-esque.

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[QUOTE=DMAVS41] I asked if you thought Kobe was the best player in game 7. I guess you do.[/QUOTE]

I do. That's my opinion, and the opinion of any reasonable non-delusional person.

[QUOTE=Jacks3]Dirk in Game 6 2011 Finals: 9-27.

Guess you could also that Parker's game last night was Dirk-esque.

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Absolutely. And I even posted that above. You seem to confuse me with someone like you.

I have no problem admitting Dirk was awful in the first half of that game going 1-12 on great looks his teammates set him up with. And he was very lucky that his teammates stepped up enough to give him a chance to come through in the 2nd half.

So...what's your point? Just to illustrate the difference between you (a Stan) and a normal fan? Well done...

[QUOTE=secund2nun]Gasol was the real 2010 finals mvp and carried Kobe. It's okay just accept it.[/QUOTE]
You ain't carrying anyone when you go 7-18 as a big. C'mon son.

Everybody shot like shit that game.

And Kobe was the best player by miles through the first 6 games.

C'mon now.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Absolutely.[/QUOTE]
Good to know. Moron. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Ne 1]I do. That's my opinion, and the opinion of any reasonable non-delusional person.[/QUOTE]

Nah...Gasol was clearly the best player on the floor in game 7. Only a delusional Kobe fan could think otherwise actually.

[QUOTE=Jacks3]Good to know. Moron. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

The only moron here is someone that thinks comparing 6-23 and 6-24 in big finals games is out of line...

[QUOTE=GrapeApe]So you're discrediting his entire career beacuse of one sub-par, injured postseason run?[/QUOTE]
This isn't just sub-par. This is historically bad. One of the very worst ever.

Maybe the worst.
[QUOTE]And who said he's better than Kobe? [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE]Sounds to me like you're the clown.[/QUOTE]
lol @ this idiot.
[QUOTE]Nobody will care about his struggles if the Heat win game 7, especially if he has a big game (and I believe he will).[/QUOTE]
Get real, fool. Wade will zero credit for this ring given how horrible he's been throughout the post-season.
[QUOTE] Plus the Heat are MUCH better defensiely when Wade is on the floor.[/QUOTE]
Nope. They've been much better with him off the court throughout the playoffs. The numbers don't lie.

Worst post-season ever.

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[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Absolutely. And I even posted that above. You seem to confuse me with someone like you.

I have no problem admitting Dirk was awful in the first half of that game going 1-12 on great looks his teammates set him up with. And he was very lucky that his teammates stepped up enough to give him a chance to come through in the 2nd half.

So...what's your point? Just to illustrate the difference between you (a Stan) and a normal fan? Well done...[/QUOTE]
But you only said that after being called out.:oldlol:

Wouldn't see me calling parkers performance dirk esque because.. its just irrational hating framing dirk to be somerhing hes not based off of a tiny slice of the pie.

Exactly. Saying that game was Kobe or Dirk "esque" because of one game is retarded.

But I would expect nothing less from a dumbass retard like DMoron.

[QUOTE=Ne 1]:roll: Gasol played well in L.A., but was terrible on the road that series and got outplayed by KG in Boston.

Moronic haters like yourself must forgot Kobe's brilliance through 6 games--30/6/5/2/56% TS.

Not to mention how clutch he was in that Game 7 in the 4th quarter: 10 pts/61% TS/4 Reb/2 Ast. Had a hand in nearly every single point by the Lakers in the last 7-8 minutes.

Kobe through 6 games: 30/6/5/2/56% TS
Kobe in Game 7: Easily the best player
Kobe for entire series: 29/8/4/2/1/53%/26+ PER[/QUOTE]

Gasol was easily better the ENTIRE SERIES and he was better from games 1-6. This is a fact which is why you are ignoring their series long stats. You are a Kobe fanboy.

Gasol was the real 2010 finals mvp.

Kobe finished with 28.6 ppg on 23 spg, 40%, and it's not like he had a million rebounds and assists to make up for his low efficiency scoring.

[B]Gasol was 19/12/4/3 on 48% fg which is far superior than 29/8/4/2 40%.[/B]

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[QUOTE=Jacks3]You ain't carrying anyone when you go 7-18 as a big. C'mon son.

Everybody shot like shit that game.

And Kobe was the best player by miles through the first 6 games.

C'mon now.[/QUOTE]

Gasol was 19/12/4/3 on 48% fg which is far superior than 29/8/4/2 40%.

Nice try though.

[QUOTE=secund2nun]Gasol was easily better the ENTIRE SERIES and he was better from games 1-6.

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[QUOTE=secund2nun]

Nice try though.[/QUOTE]
This dude is a bigger dumbass than DMavs.

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[QUOTE=tpols]But you only said that after being called out.:oldlol:

Wouldn't see me calling parkers performance dirk esque because.. its just irrational hating framing dirk to be somerhing hes not based off of a tiny slice of the pie.[/QUOTE]

Being called out? I never said anything before. I simply called going 6-23 Kobe-esque.

Of course you wouldn't call it Dirk-esque when it's far more Kobe-esque. If he had gone 9-27...then I would gladly call it Dirk-esque

You just are arguing with a ghost and didn't even take the time to read my post.

Hilarious.

[QUOTE=secund2nun]Gasol was easily better the ENTIRE SERIES and he was better from games 1-6. This is a fact which is why you are ignoring their series long stats. You are a Kobe fanboy.

Gasol was the real 2010 finals mvp.

Kobe finished with 28.6 ppg on 23 spg, 40%, and it's not like he had a million rebounds and assists to make up for his low efficiency scoring.

[B]Gasol was 19/12/4/3 on 48% fg which is far superior than 29/8/4/2 40%.[/B]

:roll:[/QUOTE]

Good post.

Gasol not getting the 2010 Finals MVP nod was one of the biggest media travesties in recent memory. Guess you cant ask for much when the award is voted on by morons.

The 2010 NBA Finals was won in the paint. EVERYONE of the 7 games the winner was the team that won the rebounding battle.

That is credit to noone more than Gasol who averaged 12 RPG while holding KG(one of the best rebounders ever) to 5 RPG. Gasol dominated KG in these Finals.

I must have clicked on the wrong thread. I thought this one was about Wade, not about guys sitting on their couch.

[QUOTE=secund2nun]Gasol was easily better the ENTIRE SERIES[/QUOTE]

:lol Easily better? So in which game in the Finals did Pau dominate anybody and carry the Lakers? I can for sure remember the Lakers losing one game when Big Baby started shitting on Pau. And he was nowhere to be found when the games where in Boston.

Before Game 7 everybody had Kobe as MVP even if the Lakers lost ala Jerry West in '69. Now, there's all this revisionist history based on 1 game where Pau also didn't play particularly great either. Kobe put up 23/15/3/2 with 10 pts/61% TS and big play after big play in the 4th quarter.

Kobe was easily the best player for the entire series: 29/8/4/2/1/53% TS/26 PER.

I couldn't agree more with this post. Wade killed the spacing. They would have won by double digits if spo just kept with what was working. I'm sure it was a wade ego thing to put him back in. Wade is equally bone headed as he is brilliant at times
Regardless, wade and LeBron should be on the floor together much less. It worked wonders for spacing. No one respects wades jumper.

[QUOTE=Ne 1]:lol Easily better? So in which game in the Finals did Pau dominate anybody and carry the Lakers? I can for sure remember the Lakers losing one game when Big Baby started shitting on Pau. And he was nowhere to be found when the games where in Boston.

Before Game 7 everybody had Kobe as MVP even if the Lakers lost ala Jerry West in '69. Now, there's all this revisionist history based on 1 game where Pau also didn't play particularly great either. Kobe put up 23/15/3/2 with 10 pts/61% TS and big play after big play in the 4th quarter.

Kobe was easily the best player for the entire series: 29/8/4/2/1/53% TS/26 PER.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jacks3]:applause: :applause: :applause:[/QUOTE]
:cheers:

Kobe also limited Rondo big time that series. Everyone was proclaiming him the best PG in the game before that series. Other than one game, he never went off. The one game he did, Kobe was in foul trouble.


Kobe disrupted the most important player on the other team (Rondo). Rondo is the engine that made the Celtics run. Kobe turned him into the Little Engine that Couldn't.

The bottom line is that nobody shot well for their positions. Kobe's FG% in game 7 is the only reason this is a discussion. Regardless his overall stats are by far the best. I don't think most people realize how tough it is for a guard to get 15 rebounds. And I said before it's based purely on numbers without the biases and agendas found on ISH. I know Kobe detractors really wanted Gasol to win it, but his numbers although good for him, aren't Kobe's.

29 PTS 8.0 REBS 5 AST 2.14 STL

This sums up the heat 's spacing issues the best:
[url]http://www.sbnation.com/2013/6/19/4444164/lebron-james-dwyane-wade-heat-spurs-nba-finals-game-6[/url]

No one was worse than Manu Ginobili. That man is playing some historically bad ball right now.

Both Wade and Lebron have had their best moments without the other on the court. I mentioned this earlier but Wade would have been deadly as the 6th man for the playoffs. He would have thrived in that role and probably put up better numbers in fewer minutes. He could come in fresh and ready to attack and have more energy late in games. It also would have made the LeBron/Wade lineup more of a change of pace and difficult to defend.

Agreed.

Not quite sure why this was bumped, but it's all good