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Cop was a ****ing *****. So what if he gets biten by a dog? The bite is not going to kill you. There was no need to kill that dog.
I've been biten by multiple dogs before, and they usually just go for your arm. Hurts like hell, but it's not life threatening.
The worst part is that theres no repercussions for this type of behavior. This cop will get flack from the public, but his superiors wont even view this as a negative thing. The cop will go on thinking he did what was right and everything will continue the same.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDBZr4ie2AE&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWDBZr4ie2AE&has_verified=1[/url]
The whole incident. You can see the SWAT truck in the background and the cops trying to secure the scene. You can also see the cop go for the leash twice before shooting the dog.
This is what could have happened:
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2012/mar/22/dog-attacks-police-officers[/url]
Also, the guy wasn't "arrested for filming cops", he was being detained for interfering with a fcking SWAT raid.
Completely justified.
Apparently it was a hostage situation, this guy drove up blaring music, parked as close as possible to the scene and started antagonizing cops.
[QUOTE=bmulls]Apparently it was a hostage situation, this guy drove up blaring music, parked as close as possible to the scene and started antagonizing cops.[/QUOTE]
The dog is the only victim here. That mans idiocy and a trigger happy cop are both to blame. But hindsight makes it so much easier for us to judge them. I doubt any of them thought it would or wanted it to end the way it did.
[QUOTE=bmulls]Apparently it was a hostage situation, this guy drove up blaring music, parked as close as possible to the scene and started antagonizing cops.[/QUOTE]
Wow, if that is true, why would anyone do that? what is there to be gained from randomly antagonizing cops? Not that I dont believe it, because sometimes people are stupid, but wow, what a waste.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Wow, if that is true, why would anyone do that? what is there to be gained from randomly antagonizing cops? Not that I dont believe it, because sometimes people are stupid, but wow, what a waste.[/QUOTE]
If you go back in the thread linked to a couple things, Seems the dogs owner is in a personal war with the Hawthorne PD, he has a lawsuit or two going on, he's been arrested a few times and has various convictions.
It wasn't random he set out to be a pest.
Not a dog guy personally, but this is absolutely pathetic and indefensible. Shit.
here's the dog owner interview about the incident:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtIR_jUhIc8[/url]
[QUOTE=fpliii]Not a dog guy personally, but this is absolutely pathetic and indefensible. Shit.[/QUOTE]
I really feel bad for the dog since it was just going by instinct, the dumb sh!ts here where the people, the owner just being a douche and the cops just not showing restraint and just not letting things slide.
I dont know if it is true but I have read that the guy was going up to the cops and criticising them for not having black cops there.
What kind of an ignorant ass guy is that? :roll:
The police are obviously in some kind of serious stand-off situation right there. So this guy rolls past, parks his car within a couple of feet from the cops, opens the windows and turns up the volume on his radio as he exits his vehicle to start shouting at the cops and causing a disturbance. And of course he brought along his big ass attack dog.
Is this real life?
[QUOTE=LJJ]What kind of an ignorant ass guy is that? :roll:
The police are obviously in some kind of serious stand-off situation right there. So this guy rolls past, parks his car within a couple of feet from the cops, opens the windows and turns up the volume on his radio as he exits his vehicle to start shouting at the cops and causing a disturbance. And of course he brought along his big ass attack dog.
Is this real life?[/QUOTE]
This. 100 percent this.
Also the only other thing that makes this whole situation even more astonishing is the fact that so many people are on the civilian's side.
Face ****ing palm.
Poor dog but this exclusively the fault of the owner.
[QUOTE=LJJ]What kind of an ignorant ass guy is that? :roll:
The police are obviously in some kind of serious stand-off situation right there. So this guy rolls past, parks his car within a couple of feet from the cops, opens the windows and turns up the volume on his radio as he exits his vehicle to start shouting at the cops and causing a disturbance. And of course he brought along his big ass attack dog.
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Yeah, they're [I]obviously[/I] very busy since 3 of them have time to come over and arrest someone for a "disturbance". I love that you accuse the guy of turning up his radio as he exits his vehicle, is shouting at the police according to you, and his dog is suddenly an attack dog. As far as I can tell the man did nothing wrong but possibly being a nuisance.
The bottom line is it doesn't require a ****ing firearm to keep a dog back, they could have easily let the man control his dog, they could have used any number of non-lethal methods to deter the animal, and if worst comes to worst, which it didn't, one bullet in the dog's ass is a lot more reasonable than 4 to the body. There is no other story here and no other blame to pass. I'm not one of these young boys who blindly adhere to some "**** the police" mentaility but in this case, **** that police, deserves to lose his job.
[QUOTE=Goon Time]Yeah, they're [I]obviously[/I] very busy since 3 of them have time to come over and arrest someone for a "disturbance". I love that you accuse the guy of turning up his radio as he exits his vehicle, is shouting at the police according to you, and his dog is suddenly an attack dog. As far as I can tell the man did nothing wrong but possibly being a nuisance.
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:lol You haven't read one thing in this thread about the guy have you?
[QUOTE=Goon Time]Yeah, they're [I]obviously[/I] very busy since 3 of them have time to come over and arrest someone for a "disturbance". I love that you accuse the guy of turning up his radio as he exits his vehicle, is shouting at the police according to you, and his dog is suddenly an attack dog. As far as I can tell the man did nothing wrong but possibly being a nuisance.
The bottom line is it doesn't require a ****ing firearm to keep a dog back, they could have easily let the man control his dog, they could have used any number of non-lethal methods to deter the animal, and if worst comes to worst (which it didn't), one bullet in the dog's ass is a lot more reasonable than 4 to the body. There is no other story here and no other blame to pass. I'm not one of these young boys who blindly adhere to some "**** the police" mentaility but in this case, **** that police, deserves to lose his job.[/QUOTE]
You ungrateful immature little shit.
No story other than the dog getting shot? You kidding?
Do you know the details of the situation in the house or do you think that SWAT and 5+ street cops were there for fun for a cat trapped in a tree?
There appears to have been at least a dozen onlookers and this guy is the only one they paid attention to because he made an ass of himself for no reason whatsoever and his dog died as a result.
We can argue all day long on if the officer was justified in using lethal force but what you CAN'T argue is that the civilian's presence was 100 avoidable if he used any brainpower whatsoever.
[QUOTE=daily]:lol You haven't read one thing in this thread about the guy have you?[/QUOTE]
show me where it says he turned his radio up as he got out of the car. show me where anything is written about the dog being an "attack dog".
[QUOTE=Orlando Magic]
Do you know the details of the situation in the house or do you think that SWAT and 5+ street cops were there for fun for a cat trapped in a tree?[/quote]
do you know the details of the situation? you're not from LA so seeing several police cars together is probably a big deal to your podunk small town ass. Yes, this guy rolled up at the most volatile moment of an armed standoff, you can tell from the video :hammerhead:
[quote=Orlando Magic]
There appears to have been at least a dozen onlookers and this guy is the only one they paid attention to because he made an ass of himself for no reason whatsoever and his dog died as a result.[/quote]
the dog died as a result of disgusting police work, nothing more. Nothing about that was a RESULT of the guy not acting right.
[quote=Orlando Magic]
We can argue all day long on if the officer was justified in using lethal force but what you CAN'T argue is that the civilian's presence were 100 avoidable if he used any brainpower whatsoever. [/QUOTE]
We can argue all day long? I'm not sure what you're argument would be you dumb ass.
[QUOTE=Orlando Magic]this exclusively the fault of the owner.[/QUOTE]
Yes, because the owner pulled the trigger. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=ace23]Yes, because the owner pulled the trigger. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
He might as well have, he pulled up right when the police were about to open fire on terrorists... he starting shouting about "jihad" and threatening them with his attack dog and concealed weapons. Cops were obviously just doing their job which is above scrutiny according to Orlando Magic's disney ass
[QUOTE=Goon Time]do you know the details of the situation? you're not from LA so seeing several police cars together is probably a big deal to your podunk small town ass. Yes, this guy rolled up at the most volatile moment of an armed standoff, you can tell from the video :hammerhead:
the dog died as a result of disgusting police work, nothing more. Nothing about that was a RESULT of the guy not acting right.
We can argue all day long? I'm not sure what you're argument would be you dumb ass.[/QUOTE]
Go through life antagonizing people and playing the victim when they respond in a way you disagree with. Hope it gets you far. Good luck with that.
[QUOTE=Orlando Magic]Go through life antagonizing people and playing the victim when they respond in a way you disagree with. Hope it gets you far. Good luck with that.[/QUOTE]
I make no attempts to antagonize the police. And while that may have been this man's motive, you talking out of your ass about the situation and trying to justify their despicable "response" is a joke. You're an idiot, good luck with that.
I'm fine with the guy being arrested, but the officer should be punished for recklessly opening fire in a public area.
There are 2 types of people in this thread.
Those who are capable of logical analysis of the situation
And those who are controlled by their emotions
[QUOTE=bmulls]There are 2 types of people in this thread.
Those who are capable of logical analysis of the situation
And those who are controlled by their emotions[/QUOTE]
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omg poor dog he died... he just wanted to play... **** that shoot it out of its misery,
[I]puuuhlease[/I]..do some of you, really believe. that Just putting "one" bullet in the dogs ass will defuse the situation?, that sound like[I]" monday morning quarterbacking to me". And what if that made the dog only angrier??
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And why would the police have the owner, to settle down his dog. -History tells us the police have no reason to trust dood. What if he got the dog to attack them instead? shouldn't have been out there in the first place. All that said though, they've reached a point of no return already. Dog was out of the car already and it. It was fight or flight time for the cops.
Dumbass owner lacked the most common sense...[I]why is there no black cops. [/I]he says to them? How could he have known, did he take count? Should of never lead to this in the first place. Owner should of minded his own business. Waited until the operation was done -didn't he see the swat car?? ... Men at work brah.
/common sense is in short supply these days
//agreed some of you are just getting caught up, and being emotional. Facts shows that the antagonist was being a straight up dumbass.
[QUOTE=sommervilleCdn][I]puuuhlease[/I]..do some of you, really believe. that Just putting "one" bullet in the dogs ass will defuse the situation?, that sound like[I]" monday morning quarterbacking to me". And what if that made the dog only angrier??
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are you the world's biggest p[I]u[/I]ssy? it's one dog. kick it, punch it, baton it, taze it, try to soothe it with your voice and body language like a normal human being? there's a thousand things you can do to keep ONE dog off three grown men other than shooting it four times. You think dude in handcuffs is going to say "sic em boy!"? And you're the one talking about a lack of common sense. :facepalm
[/I][quote=sommervilleCdn]
And why would the police have the owner, to settle down his dog. -History tells us the police have no reason to trust dood.[/QUOTE]
history tells us that? or the police did in their attempt to rationalize the actions taken by officer **** face? they have no reason to trust him to secure his dog before he's taken to jail? you really think those officers thought he was somehow a threat to them in that situation? you have to be ****ing shitting me
way to miss the point. i suspect the cop[s were just going to hold the guy..than releae him after.
youuu must really like taking r[I]abies shots in the stomach[/I], than to allow the dog to bite them or worse maul him. Judgement call. its also, my oppinion they were at the point of no return
/we see things different than.
[QUOTE=StocktonFan]:applause:
omg poor dog he died... he just wanted to play... **** that shoot it out of its misery,[/QUOTE]
I can tell you're a good human being.
Its possible there could've been a hundred different outcomes, if we go along with your scenario. The cop only had a split second to act. yeeesh.
Let not forget that the owner shoulda rolled up his window, him having not done that, lead to the dog jumping outta window. Like I said dog owner shoulda waitetd until swat team left. IF he wanted to make gentlemanly inquiries. ..yeah i feel bad for the dog in hindsight but not for the owner.
[QUOTE=sommervilleCdn]
youuu must really like taking r[I]abies shots in the stomach[/I], than to allow the dog to bite them or worse maul him. Judgement call. its also, my oppinion they were at the point of no return
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Rabies? You have to be shitting me.
:lol you're a barrel of laughs man. Fine whatever. Cop didn't wanted to get bitten. Blame cop
see yousa guys in the next thread. where theres another outrage..to scream at.
[QUOTE=StocktonFan]:applause:
omg poor dog he died... he just wanted to play... **** that shoot it out of its misery,[/QUOTE]
Still waiting to read your take on the Trayvon Martin situation and how you apply your "mind your own business, don't go looking for trouble and you won't find it" philosophy to it.
Got your racist ass backed into a corner, don't I? LOL
[I]The shooting occurred about 7:15 p.m. Sunday at 137th Street and Jefferson Avenue about two hours after police surrounded a house where a gunman had robbed two people inside. A crowd of spectators gathered in response to the large police response, which included several police cars and the department's Bearcat armored vehicle.
As some, including resident Gabriel Martinez, aimed their cellphones at the scene to record it, Rosby drove up in his rented black Mazda. Swain said Rosby stopped in the intersection with music blaring from his windows. Officers told him to turn down the music because they were trying to hear what was happening down the street. Rosby pulled forward, parked and got out with his dog, but left the music still playing loudly.
"It's distracting the officers," Swain said. "It's interfering with what they are able to hear. It's not just a party call. It's an armed robbery call. The officers need to hear what's going on with the people being called out of the residence. That music in
Rosby, who pulled out his own cellphone to record the police activity, did not lower the volume.
"I do apologize if I didn't immediately comply. The music may have been a little loud but I was complying," Rosby said. "I said, 'Sir, I want to make sure nobody's civil rights were being violated.'
A neighbor, who asked not to be identified, said the officers asked him to turn the music down, but he refused. Rosby, she said, responded, "It's my (expletive) radio!"
He said Monday he believed police were retaliating against him because of previous run-ins and struggles with officers. Court records show he has previous convictions for resisting, battery and driving under the influence. Rosby, who is black, said he has filed six complaints (in the past) against the Hawthorne Police Department, alleging mistreatment and racial profiling.
Rosby filed a lawsuit against the city of Hawthorne and two police officers in March, contending officers broke one of his ribs when they responded to a domestic violence disturbance at his house, not far from the dog shooting scene.[/I]
[url]http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_23578147/hawthorne-police-kill-dog-during-arrest-owner[/url]
Cops have maced and tasered people often without WARNING. Postal workers do this do prevent, fend off dog attacks. This was a classic case of the cops STICKING it to the guy they disliked for challenging their authority. Period.
What a joke.
And when is it illegal to film cops so long as you are not preventing them from doing their duty? Cops think its illegal but its not. They got upset and reacted locking up someone for no reason then killing his dog. Hope the owner sues the f*ck out of them and gets paid. Expensive bullets idiot cops
[QUOTE=GOBB]Cops have maced and tasered people often without WARNING. Postal workers do this do prevent, fend off dog attacks. This was a classic case of the cops STICKING it to the guy they disliked for challenging their authority. Period.
What a joke.
And when is it illegal to film cops so long as you are not preventing them from doing their duty? Cops think its illegal but its not. They got upset and reacted locking up someone for no reason then killing his dog. [B]Hope the owner sues the f*ck out of them and gets paid[/B]. Expensive bullets idiot cops[/QUOTE]Hey GOBB,
I read he already is suing them. Once for something that happened in 2011, once for something that happened in 2012 and now he can add 2013. Hat Trick!
[QUOTE=GOBB]This was a classic case of the cops STICKING it to the guy they disliked for challenging their authority. Period.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. And, the ones defending the cop's actions are simply people who are "tired of blacks playing the victim card" and want to stick it to the inner city community.
You can find them in the Trayvon Martin thread fighting tooth and nail for Zimmerman's acquittal.
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Dog did a pretty funny dance :lol
ya thats a funny dance. tryna sound tough over a message board asshole lemme see u get shot in a spine n do a "funny dance" as ur nerves in ur legs r giving away n making ur legs do "funny dance" shit. fukin *****
anyways, this cop needs to get 5 yrs for animal cruelty. coulda just fired a shot in air n scared the shit out the dog. coulda just kicked him, whatever. no need to shoot right at a animal. fuq him, hope he gets what he got comming for him. and once he in the pen, i hope they stick him in general population and not protective custody (which they will) just so somebody can shank him for the fuq of it...cause he a cop :lol
The officers clearly saw the animal in the car. They should have recognized the potential threat and asked the individual to roll up the windows prior to questioning him. This was neglect and predatory behavior in tragic combination on the part of these officers. They handled the situation so wrong, and those saying he was reaching out to grab his leash, why would you attempt to this if you have his owner in handcuffs....He could have just pulled out a tazer or mase, although the situation should have never even got that far. Although I agree the black guy is a moron for doing what he did, there is no reason he should have been in cuffs.