I'm sorry but............. The Lakers are a great team and a contender when healthy

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]i got it like this

#1 SAS 60 wins
#2 OKC 59 wins
#3 MEM 56 wins
#4 LAC 55 wins
#5 HOU 54 wins
#6 LAL 52 wins
#7 GSW 50 wins
#8 DEN 49 wins[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:

Ok, so a 52 win 6th place team is a great team and a contender?

[QUOTE=SpecialQue]They may not be contenders, but I do think this Laker team is a lot better ON PAPER than people are giving it credit for. I'm optimistic. I'll even do an avy bet that they'll be in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Bro I thought we wasn't responding to trolls?:facepalm

[QUOTE=KG215]:oldlol:

Ok, so a 52 win 6th place team is a great team and a contender?[/QUOTE]


i said when healthy. i'm predicting 52 wins cause i think theyel have some set backs


if kobe/pau/nash are all healthy come playoff time. theyel be better than their record shows

if they all played the entire season fully healthy with lots of minutes each. they could be a 58-59 win team easy

but they wouldnt make it. they have to play a sanantonio style save their best for last type season

[QUOTE=TheReal Kendall]Bro I thought we wasn't responding to trolls?:facepalm[/QUOTE]

:(

They didn't upgrade at coach or owner.

As long as you have Antoni (no D) and that imbecile Jim Buss, they will sabotage any semblance of a competitive team the Lakers could field. Sorry. Even Kobe isn't enough to overcome that.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jILCWwzyIEY[/url]

Kaman and gasol in dantoni's system.... Thats all...

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]i got it like this

#1 SAS 60 wins
#2 OKC 59 wins
#3 MEM 56 wins
#4 LAC 55 wins
#5 HOU 54 wins
#6 LAL 52 wins
#7 GSW 50 wins
#8 DEN 49 wins[/QUOTE]

those wins... kidding me right?

LAL might even land a fortunate 8th seed, Utah is out of the equation so they ll have to battle against Dallas, Portland and Wolves, so i'd say it's pretty open.

Contender? Hell no. Tanking? You won't, so no future star getting to LA.
2014 FA? Just a dream.

Difficult times ahead for you guys.

They will be contenders if Kobe doesn't come back. Nash running the show with Meeks, Young, Gasol and Kaman will be great, but Kobe will ruin the team chemistry with chucking his way to all-time leading scorer.

[QUOTE=Nashty]They will be contenders if Kobe doesn't come back. Nash running the show with Meeks, Young, Gasol and Kaman will be great, but Kobe will ruin the team chemistry with chucking his way to all-time leading scorer.[/QUOTE]
Sorry for bad english and bad posts

[QUOTE=chazzy]Sorry for bad english and bad posts[/QUOTE]

You are retarded :cheers:

if Kobe comes back like he was last year this is a 50 win team.

Addition by subtraction with Howard leaving. Gonna love not having to witness hack a shaq momentum killing bricks from the free throw line every 4th quarter.

:facepalm this lakers team is not a 50 win team. this just shows how sad and delusional laker fans are. it's pretty pathetic. the lakers will be fighting for the last spot in the playoffs.

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]
much improved athleticism at SF for the starting linup and bench with young/johnson

thats the one position you aboslutely need to have athletes to keep up with the durants/melos/lebrons of the nba
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:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: Young keeping up with Durant/Melo/Lebron?! :roll:

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]

kobes still good at defense btw. he was slow the first part of 2012-13. but bounced back after the allstar game[/QUOTE]

You can't be good at defense if you don't play it.

[QUOTE=Jameerthefear][IMG]http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7141/ohdamnlol.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


:roll: :roll: :roll:

I'll give the Lakers a 50-50 chance to make the playoffs. :lol

[QUOTE=YAWN]if Kobe comes back like he was last year this is a 50 win team.

Addition by subtraction with Howard leaving. Gonna love not having to witness hack a shaq momentum killing bricks from the free throw line every 4th quarter.[/QUOTE]
You said it! I was getting so sick of those bricks. Those hack a Howard plays completely killed the flow of the game. Good riddance to Howard. I feel blessed as a Laker fan.

50 wins for the Lakers?

That means San Antonio, OKC and the Clippers all will win 68 games, splitting the head to head with one another, causing the 4 losses. Maybe 67 if they split with Miami,

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]i got it like this

#1 SAS 60 wins
#2 OKC 59 wins
#3 MEM 56 wins
#4 LAC 55 wins
#5 HOU 54 wins
#6 LAL 52 wins
#7 GSW 50 wins
#8 DEN 49 wins[/QUOTE]


Can all those wins even add up to the losses that there will be?

That would mean the bottom of the West and most of the East would really suck. Worse than years past.

[QUOTE=Wally450]Can all those wins even add up to the losses that there will be?

That would mean the bottom of the West and most of the East would really suck. Worse than years past.[/QUOTE]

Something very similar happened in '08 I believe. Lakers were #1 at 57 wins, and I believe the 8 seed had 50 wins.

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]i got it like this

#1 SAS 60 wins
#2 OKC 59 wins
#3 MEM 56 wins
#4 LAC 55 wins
#5 HOU 54 wins
#6 LAL 52 wins
#7 GSW 50 wins
#8 DEN 49 wins[/QUOTE]

There are 6 teams that I expect to be significantly better than the Lakers, and they are Thunder, Spurs, Clippers, Grizzlies, Rockets and Warriors. OKC, San Antonio and Memphis should be roughly the same as they were last year with the one question being the coaching change in Memphis. The Clippers should be better(though I suspect their improvement may show more in the playoffs and big picture than in their regular season record), the Rockets should be significantly better and the Warriors should be better.

I don't expect Denver to be as good as last year after losing Igoudala and because Gallo probably won't be back until midseason at the earliest and they have a coaching change as well. But they still may be better than the Lakers though after the top 6, the dropoff seems to be significant in the West. But the top 6 should be ridiculously competitive.

Kobe is going to write up some other "injury" so he doesnt have to take blame in missing the playoffs/first round loss.

Typical Egomaniac.

[QUOTE=Wally450]Can all those wins even add up to the losses that there will be?

That would mean the bottom of the West and most of the East would really suck. Worse than years past.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and here's some recent examples:

[B]2010:[/B] 50-32 (all but one WC finished with 25+ wins)
[B]2009:[/B] 48-34
[B]2008:[/B] 50-32 (every team in WC won 20+ games)

That's the record of the 8th seed in the West those years.

the Lakers forget to play defense for months at a time. That aint the sign of a "great" team

and Kurt Rambis aint the answer. He isn't going to be able to go in there and knock a pg's head off when he is dancing into the lane at will for 10 consecutive possessions.